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Jim Peterik Interview 2007/8/26

Postby IngoK » Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:51 pm

There´s a nice interview/podcast with Jim Peterik on firepitfriday.com. Here´s the link:



http://www.firepitfriday.com/Firepit_Fr ... terik.html
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Re: Jim Peterik Interview 2007/8/26

Postby Slander » Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:48 am

IngoK wrote:There´s a nice interview/podcast with Jim Peterik on firepitfriday.com. Here´s the link:



http://www.firepitfriday.com/Firepit_Fr ... terik.html


This interview is terrifc. Did you catch that JAMO AND PETERIK ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON A NEW ALBUM?
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Re: Jim Peterik Interview 2007/8/26

Postby Journey/Survivor » Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:03 pm

Slander wrote:
IngoK wrote:There´s a nice interview/podcast with Jim Peterik on firepitfriday.com. Here´s the link:



http://www.firepitfriday.com/Firepit_Fr ... terik.html


This interview is terrifc. Did you catch that JAMO AND PETERIK ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON A NEW ALBUM?



WOW :shock: whats this about Peterik and Jamison making an album together???

The link isn't working for me, so I have no idea what was said in the interview.

Please, someone, fill me in on this news!!!
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Re: Jim Peterik Interview 2007/8/26

Postby Slander » Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:06 am

Journey/Survivor wrote:
Slander wrote:
IngoK wrote:There´s a nice interview/podcast with Jim Peterik on firepitfriday.com. Here´s the link:



http://www.firepitfriday.com/Firepit_Fr ... terik.html


This interview is terrifc. Did you catch that JAMO AND PETERIK ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON A NEW ALBUM?



WOW :shock: whats this about Peterik and Jamison making an album together???

The link isn't working for me, so I have no idea what was said in the interview.

Please, someone, fill me in on this news!!!


If you listen to the podcast he talks about it following his performance of Eye Of The Tiger.
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Postby axecrew » Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:23 am

Jimi and Jim have been in the studio for quite some time now. Can't wait to hear the results,maybe at Melodicrock show? After all Jim's writing...jimi's singing .....should be good.
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Postby Slander » Thu Aug 30, 2007 7:52 am

axecrew wrote:Jimi and Jim have been in the studio for quite some time now. Can't wait to hear the results,maybe at Melodicrock show? After all Jim's writing...jimi's singing .....should be good.


Yeah that's good to hear. I didn't realize it was so far along. I'm glad JP and Jim were able to clear up whatever issues existed dating back to the trademark dispute. I look forward to hearing a new record. It just won't be the same with out Frankie's signature sound.
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Postby axecrew » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:42 am

Have you ever seen Jim's World Stage show? He has a couple of guitar players in that band that can duplicate that sound note for note perfect. I wouldn't think it would be a problem, should they go that direction.
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Postby IngoK » Thu Aug 30, 2007 6:55 pm

The Worldstage Event in Belgium at the Lokerse Festen at the beginning of this month was just fantastic. Especially when Jimi was together on the Stage with JP.

Can´t wait to hear what both of them are doing together!
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Postby Slander » Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:11 am

axecrew wrote:Have you ever seen Jim's World Stage show? He has a couple of guitar players in that band that can duplicate that sound note for note perfect. I wouldn't think it would be a problem, should they go that direction.


You mean they can do their best to imitate Frank's guitar work. Frankie is one of the best in the business period. It never ceases to amaze me how much people on this board want to be little him. I have friend of mine who can really play Stairway to Heaven. Let me call Robert Plant and tell him he shouldn't tour with Jimmy Page anymore. Sorry JP and Jamo ain't Survivor.
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Postby Journey/Survivor » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:30 am

Now all Jamison and Peterik need to do is hire Stephan Ellis and Kyle Woodring. :wink:

It would also be awesome if Peterik would record some new stuff with Dave Bickler!
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Postby Slander » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:39 am

Journey/Survivor wrote:Now all Jamison and Peterik need to do is hire Stephan Ellis and Kyle Woodring. :wink:

It would also be awesome if Peterik would record some new stuff with Dave Bickler!


Yes it would be terrific. I do miss Dave. I miss that "street sound" he brought to the band. It was a great match. He any word on a new disc by Survivor? When do you think early 2008?
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Postby Journey/Survivor » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:55 am

Slander wrote:He any word on a new disc by Survivor? When do you think early 2008?


All I know for sure is that it's supposed to be out in 2008. I am hoping that it will be early 2008.
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Postby Eyeof » Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:51 pm

Slander,

Saying that Jimi and Jim can have the Survivor sound as much as anything without Frankie, is no more belittling to Frankie, than saying that Frankie and McAuley and McSurivor can be Survivor any more than Jim or Jimi. In my opinion McSurvivor is no more Survivor than Jimi and Jim...and to be honest without Dave it just 'ain't real Survivor anyways...
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Postby Slander » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:12 am

Eyeof wrote:Slander,

Saying that Jimi and Jim can have the Survivor sound as much as anything without Frankie, is no more belittling to Frankie, than saying that Frankie and McAuley and McSurivor can be Survivor any more than Jim or Jimi. In my opinion McSurvivor is no more Survivor than Jimi and Jim...and to be honest without Dave it just 'ain't real Survivor anyways...


You and I agree that the original Survivor is best. It all ended for me at Santa Ana Winds! Like I've always said you and I have common ground. I give Frankie more credit than the others for the sound. It's just my opinion. I think the sound and the way he plays is Survivor. There's a true grittiness and toughness in Frankie that I think epitomizes what Survivor was all about. While I have incredible respect for JP I do not see that toughness in him and as far as Jimi hell no. Dave represents that tough gritty feel that I associate with Survivor. I hope that helps you understand where I am coming from a bit.
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Postby axecrew » Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:40 pm

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axecrew wrote:Have you ever seen Jim's World Stage show? He has a couple of guitar players in that band that can duplicate that sound note for note perfect. I wouldn't think it would be a problem, should they go that direction.


You mean they can do their best to imitate Frank's guitar work. Frankie is one of the best in the business period. It never ceases to amaze me how much people on this board want to be little him. I have friend of mine who can really play Stairway to Heaven. Let me call Robert Plant and tell him he shouldn't tour with Jimmy Page anymore. Sorry JP and Jamo ain't Survivor.


Dude you are seriously mentally ill....you see a flecking conspiresy in everything. Nowhere was Frankie's name mentioned in my post,nowhere was his ability slagged. You talked about his sound and I said there were a couple of guys who could duplicate the sound note for note,should they go that way.plain and simple. But I will say this Frankie has talent,no doubt about that,but to insist ,as you do, that the sun rises and sets on his guitar ability is comical at best.
There are a lot of guitar players who are much better than Frankie Sullivan,that doesn't diminish his ability,it's just a fact. And to say he is one of the best in the business is borderline felonious.
Ps When's the last time Robert Plant toured with Jimmy Page? You make it sound as if it's a yearly ocurance.Plant and Page "tour" together about as often as Survivor "Tours"or does a new record. And no a tour is not a handful of scattered dates every year or two. No, you are right Jim and Jimi aren't Survivor, but neither in Sullivan and his band of imposters,whether they have the name or not! I would bet if both Jim and Jimi and frankie's group were in the same town,the same night and both played a show at the same time.If they were both advertised in the same way,without the Survivor name. Jim and Jimi would draw a bigger crowd.
By advertised the same way I mean like this......Jimi Jamison and Jim Peterik...formerly the keyboardist and lead singer of Survivor...........and................Frankie Sullivan current guitarist of Survivor. More people would go and see Jim and Jimi. Remember....It's the singer,not the song.....people will want to hear the voice and most would care less who is playing guitar as long as it sounded good.
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Postby squirt1 » Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:40 pm

Survivor with Jimi & Jim will be a huge draw . Bring along Bicker who is making $$$$$$ from the Bud commercials. He would prob turn them down. Guitar players are full of themselves. They have huge ego factors with there singers. Frankie, ask Neal or Tommy if they have hit bottom yet.
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Postby Journey/Survivor » Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:01 am

axecrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
axecrew wrote:Have you ever seen Jim's World Stage show? He has a couple of guitar players in that band that can duplicate that sound note for note perfect. I wouldn't think it would be a problem, should they go that direction.


You mean they can do their best to imitate Frank's guitar work. Frankie is one of the best in the business period. It never ceases to amaze me how much people on this board want to be little him. I have friend of mine who can really play Stairway to Heaven. Let me call Robert Plant and tell him he shouldn't tour with Jimmy Page anymore. Sorry JP and Jamo ain't Survivor.


Dude you are seriously mentally ill....you see a flecking conspiresy in everything. Nowhere was Frankie's name mentioned in my post,nowhere was his ability slagged. You talked about his sound and I said there were a couple of guys who could duplicate the sound note for note,should they go that way.plain and simple. But I will say this Frankie has talent,no doubt about that,but to insist ,as you do, that the sun rises and sets on his guitar ability is comical at best.
There are a lot of guitar players who are much better than Frankie Sullivan,that doesn't diminish his ability,it's just a fact. And to say he is one of the best in the business is borderline felonious.
Ps When's the last time Robert Plant toured with Jimmy Page? You make it sound as if it's a yearly ocurance.Plant and Page "tour" together about as often as Survivor "Tours"or does a new record. And no a tour is not a handful of scattered dates every year or two. No, you are right Jim and Jimi aren't Survivor, but neither in Sullivan and his band of imposters,whether they have the name or not! I would bet if both Jim and Jimi and frankie's group were in the same town,the same night and both played a show at the same time.If they were both advertised in the same way,without the Survivor name. Jim and Jimi would draw a bigger crowd.
By advertised the same way I mean like this......Jimi Jamison and Jim Peterik...formerly the keyboardist and lead singer of Survivor...........and................Frankie Sullivan current guitarist of Survivor. More people would go and see Jim and Jimi. Remember....It's the singer,not the song.....people will want to hear the voice and most would care less who is playing guitar as long as it sounded good.


Here is my honest opinion on this argument. I'm not taking sides, but I will just let you know what I think about Survivor's sound and members bassed on their performing ability.

Jim Peterik and Frankie Sullivan were the 2 true founding members of the band, although Dave Bickler played a very important role in the band as well.

In the beginning I would say that Peterik was the slightly more important member of the band since he already had been having a fair amount of success in the business and had made more of a name for himself. He was already a great songwriter, whereas Sullivan was still sort of learning on the job in that department. Also Peterik was doing a small amount of the lead vocals in the band, playing rhythm guitar, and then starting with Premonition was the keyboardist.

Over time Sullivan started becoming more and more on equal footing with Peterik.

As far as which of them was/is more important to the Survivor sound I would say it depends on if your only talking about the music, or if your talking about the lyrics. I would definitely say that Sullivan is more important to the music and that Peterik is to the lyric writing. I think that Peterik's absence was strongly felt on the "Reach" CD. I know that he co-wrote 3 of the songs, but overal I consider "Reach" to have been a subpar Survivor album.

Dave Bickler and Jimi Jamison have been vitally (no pun intended) important to the Survivor sound over the years much the same as Marc Droubay and Stephan Ellis have been.

As huge of a fan of Jimi Jamison as I have always been I never considered his "Survivor" to really be "Survivor" because of the absence of Sullivan or Peterik. Since Peterik chose to leave Survivor whereas Sullivan is continuing on with the band, I consider the Sullivan-Droubay-McAuley lineup to be the only true "Survivor" at this time

However, I am thrilled that Peterik and Jamison are working together again! It won't be Survivor, but I'm sure it will still be damn good. Now, in my opinion Survivor at it's best will always be made-up of a lineup of Frankie sullivan on guitar, Jim Peterik on keyboards, Marc Droubay on drums, Stephan Ellis on bass and either Jimi Jamison or Dave Bickler on lead vocals.

As far as Frankie Sullivan's skill on guitar...
Frankie is my second favorite guitarist after only Neal Schon. I too consider Frankie Sullivan to be one of the best guitarists in Rock. He may not have the technical ability of guys like Holdsworth, Mclaughlin, Schon etc, etc. He may not have the speed of Schon, Malmsteen, MacAlpine, Mclaughlin etc, etc. But IMO he is one of the best well-rounded guitar players in the business. He has a great deal of emotion in his playing, there aren't many who play with more emotion than him. He has great tone, plays blusy, can play with speed when he wants to. Sullivan is also one of the best riff and rhythm guitarists in all of Rock, and has a very big sound overall.

So even though Frankie Sullivan may not be viewed by most as being as great as say Eddie Van Halen, in my opinion he's a much better player than Van Halen who I mostly view as being a one-trick-pony on guitar. My dream guitar album would have Neal Schon playing about 70% of the solos and Sullivan playing 30% of the solos, and then have Sullivan playing about 70% of the riffs and rhythm and Schon playing the other 30% of the riffs and rhythm. I'd love to hear Schon start playing more riffs that are similar to Sullivan's riffs on songs like Caught In the Game, Take You On a Saturday, She's A Star etc, etc.
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Postby MarcelJordan » Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:16 pm

Journey/Survivor wrote:
axecrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
axecrew wrote:Have you ever seen Jim's World Stage show? He has a couple of guitar players in that band that can duplicate that sound note for note perfect. I wouldn't think it would be a problem, should they go that direction.


You mean they can do their best to imitate Frank's guitar work. Frankie is one of the best in the business period. It never ceases to amaze me how much people on this board want to be little him. I have friend of mine who can really play Stairway to Heaven. Let me call Robert Plant and tell him he shouldn't tour with Jimmy Page anymore. Sorry JP and Jamo ain't Survivor.


Dude you are seriously mentally ill....you see a flecking conspiresy in everything. Nowhere was Frankie's name mentioned in my post,nowhere was his ability slagged. You talked about his sound and I said there were a couple of guys who could duplicate the sound note for note,should they go that way.plain and simple. But I will say this Frankie has talent,no doubt about that,but to insist ,as you do, that the sun rises and sets on his guitar ability is comical at best.
There are a lot of guitar players who are much better than Frankie Sullivan,that doesn't diminish his ability,it's just a fact. And to say he is one of the best in the business is borderline felonious.
Ps When's the last time Robert Plant toured with Jimmy Page? You make it sound as if it's a yearly ocurance.Plant and Page "tour" together about as often as Survivor "Tours"or does a new record. And no a tour is not a handful of scattered dates every year or two. No, you are right Jim and Jimi aren't Survivor, but neither in Sullivan and his band of imposters,whether they have the name or not! I would bet if both Jim and Jimi and frankie's group were in the same town,the same night and both played a show at the same time.If they were both advertised in the same way,without the Survivor name. Jim and Jimi would draw a bigger crowd.
By advertised the same way I mean like this......Jimi Jamison and Jim Peterik...formerly the keyboardist and lead singer of Survivor...........and................Frankie Sullivan current guitarist of Survivor. More people would go and see Jim and Jimi. Remember....It's the singer,not the song.....people will want to hear the voice and most would care less who is playing guitar as long as it sounded good.


Here is my honest opinion on this argument. I'm not taking sides, but I will just let you know what I think about Survivor's sound and members bassed on their performing ability.

Jim Peterik and Frankie Sullivan were the 2 true founding members of the band, although Dave Bickler played a very important role in the band as well.

In the beginning I would say that Peterik was the slightly more important member of the band since he already had been having a fair amount of success in the business and had made more of a name for himself. He was already a great songwriter, whereas Sullivan was still sort of learning on the job in that department. Also Peterik was doing a small amount of the lead vocals in the band, playing rhythm guitar, and then starting with Premonition was the keyboardist.

Over time Sullivan started becoming more and more on equal footing with Peterik.

As far as which of them was/is more important to the Survivor sound I would say it depends on if your only talking about the music, or if your talking about the lyrics. I would definitely say that Sullivan is more important to the music and that Peterik is to the lyric writing. I think that Peterik's absence was strongly felt on the "Reach" CD. I know that he co-wrote 3 of the songs, but overal I consider "Reach" to have been a subpar Survivor album.

Dave Bickler and Jimi Jamison have been vitally (no pun intended) important to the Survivor sound over the years much the same as Marc Droubay and Stephan Ellis have been.

As huge of a fan of Jimi Jamison as I have always been I never considered his "Survivor" to really be "Survivor" because of the absence of Sullivan or Peterik. Since Peterik chose to leave Survivor whereas Sullivan is continuing on with the band, I consider the Sullivan-Droubay-McAuley lineup to be the only true "Survivor" at this time

However, I am thrilled that Peterik and Jamison are working together again! It won't be Survivor, but I'm sure it will still be damn good. Now, in my opinion Survivor at it's best will always be made-up of a lineup of Frankie sullivan on guitar, Jim Peterik on keyboards, Marc Droubay on drums, Stephan Ellis on bass and either Jimi Jamison or Dave Bickler on lead vocals.

As far as Frankie Sullivan's skill on guitar...
Frankie is my second favorite guitarist after only Neal Schon. I too consider Frankie Sullivan to be one of the best guitarists in Rock. He may not have the technical ability of guys like Holdsworth, Mclaughlin, Schon etc, etc. He may not have the speed of Schon, Malmsteen, MacAlpine, Mclaughlin etc, etc. But IMO he is one of the best well-rounded guitar players in the business. He has a great deal of emotion in his playing, there aren't many who play with more emotion than him. He has great tone, plays blusy, can play with speed when he wants to. Sullivan is also one of the best riff and rhythm guitarists in all of Rock, and has a very big sound overall.

So even though Frankie Sullivan may not be viewed by most as being as great as say Eddie Van Halen, in my opinion he's a much better player than Van Halen who I mostly view as being a one-trick-pony on guitar. My dream guitar album would have Neal Schon playing about 70% of the solos and Sullivan playing 30% of the solos, and then have Sullivan playing about 70% of the riffs and rhythm and Schon playing the other 30% of the riffs and rhythm. I'd love to hear Schon start playing more riffs that are similar to Sullivan's riffs on songs like Caught In the Game, Take You On a Saturday, She's A Star etc, etc.


Nice and appreciate your point of view Journey/Survivor. Sigh, there's really no time for bickering, taking bets who's gonna win. Wonder when we'll ever pass that stage :lol:
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Postby Slander » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:09 am

squirt1 wrote:Survivor with Jimi & Jim will be a huge draw . Bring along Bicker who is making $$$$$$ from the Bud commercials. He would prob turn them down. Guitar players are full of themselves. They have huge ego factors with there singers. Frankie, ask Neal or Tommy if they have hit bottom yet.


I love your generalizations! Guitar players are full of themselves? Please. Rock stars have egos period. Wow what a news flash. Thanks for the information squirt.
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Postby Slander » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:12 am

axecrew wrote:
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axecrew wrote:Have you ever seen Jim's World Stage show? He has a couple of guitar players in that band that can duplicate that sound note for note perfect. I wouldn't think it would be a problem, should they go that direction.


You mean they can do their best to imitate Frank's guitar work. Frankie is one of the best in the business period. It never ceases to amaze me how much people on this board want to be little him. I have friend of mine who can really play Stairway to Heaven. Let me call Robert Plant and tell him he shouldn't tour with Jimmy Page anymore. Sorry JP and Jamo ain't Survivor.


Dude you are seriously mentally ill....


You guys are pathetic. We can't have a simple discussion without name calling? I hardly think I'm crazy because I don't feel that your so called studio musicians can keep up with the ax work of guitar wizard like Frankie Sullivan. Frankie is essential to the Survivor sound. By the way I have seen Jamo solo singing Tiger solo. Jamo was fine but his band sounded like shite!
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Postby axecrew » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:20 am

Slander wrote:
axecrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
axecrew wrote:Have you ever seen Jim's World Stage show? He has a couple of guitar players in that band that can duplicate that sound note for note perfect. I wouldn't think it would be a problem, should they go that direction.


You mean they can do their best to imitate Frank's guitar work. Frankie is one of the best in the business period. It never ceases to amaze me how much people on this board want to be little him. I have friend of mine who can really play Stairway to Heaven. Let me call Robert Plant and tell him he shouldn't tour with Jimmy Page anymore. Sorry JP and Jamo ain't Survivor.


Dude you are seriously mentally ill....


You guys are pathetic. We can't have a simple discussion without name calling? I hardly think I'm crazy because I don't feel that your so called studio musicians can keep up with the ax work of guitar wizard like Frankie Sullivan. Frankie is essential to the Survivor sound. By the way I have seen Jamo solo singing Tiger solo. Jamo was fine but his band sounded like shite!


Love how you ignored the entire post, with all the points that you want to ignore,except for the first 5 words. And we're pathetic?

I said you were mentally ill because you see a conspirosy in everything that you don't agree with,thus why you ignored all the post except that one part. Care to address ALL the issues in my post?
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Postby Slander » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:54 am

axecrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
axecrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
axecrew wrote:Have you ever seen Jim's World Stage show? He has a couple of guitar players in that band that can duplicate that sound note for note perfect. I wouldn't think it would be a problem, should they go that direction.


You mean they can do their best to imitate Frank's guitar work. Frankie is one of the best in the business period. It never ceases to amaze me how much people on this board want to be little him. I have friend of mine who can really play Stairway to Heaven. Let me call Robert Plant and tell him he shouldn't tour with Jimmy Page anymore. Sorry JP and Jamo ain't Survivor.


Dude you are seriously mentally ill....


You guys are pathetic. We can't have a simple discussion without name calling? I hardly think I'm crazy because I don't feel that your so called studio musicians can keep up with the ax work of guitar wizard like Frankie Sullivan. Frankie is essential to the Survivor sound. By the way I have seen Jamo solo singing Tiger solo. Jamo was fine but his band sounded like shite!


Love how you ignored the entire post, with all the points that you want to ignore,except for the first 5 words. And we're pathetic?

I said you were mentally ill because you see a conspirosy in everything that you don't agree with,thus why you ignored all the post except that one part. Care to address ALL the issues in my post?



Hey man what is there to discuss? I think Frankie Sullivan is one of the best guitarist in rock n'roll and you don't. You said that Frankie could basically be replaced and I disagree. You say more people would go see Jamo and JP than Survivor. We have no way of knowing that. My guess is Survivor would draw more based on having the name and because Robin brings his own fan base to concerts as well. I realize you don't like Frankie but I think many would beg to differ with you on his ability.
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