Survivor - Where will they be in 1 year, 2 years, etc.

[Eyeof]

WOW Red...here we are...two years later...you hit it on the head...

you are a true prophet...

[MarcelJordan]

I don't know Eye of. So far he hasn't really hinted on a new record.

[Eyeof]

very true...so believe it or not, fs actually underacheived from very low expectations...

Now it's time for Slander to come in and tell us all the great things they have going on...the super huge venues they play...all the shows they play and did he (i) mention they played on TV!!! in front of 20 million people...bla, bla, bla...

[Slander]

very true...so believe it or not, fs actually underacheived from very low expectations...

Now it's time for Slander to come in and tell us all the great things they have going on...the super huge venues they play...all the shows they play and did he (i) mention they played on TV!!! in front of 20 million people...bla, bla, bla...

I have no idea what they have going on. I know FS was producing JV's record. In your view that's nothing though. Quite frankly my argument has nothing to do with what they have going on but more with what you are entitled to know about FS the person. You are entitled to know squat.

[Eyeof]

I don't care to know anyting about him...I know all i need to know. He's a bold faced liar and he's just about single handedly destroyed my favorite band of all time...

I don't care if he's rich or poor, or if his butt hurts from your head being shoved so far up it all the time...

[Eyeof]

and just because you met him sometime and kissed his ass for a half hour through some lame ass interview, doesn't make you know squat either...

[Slander]

and just because you met him sometime and kissed his ass for a half hour through some lame ass interview, doesn't make you know squat either...

I'm not. I never claimed he was a friend mine. Your numbers just don't add up. The story doesn't add up. All it takes is a little common sense and some first hand info.

[axecrew]

and just because you met him sometime and kissed his ass for a half hour through some lame ass interview, doesn't make you know squat either...

I'm not. I never claimed he was a friend mine. Your numbers just don't add up. The story doesn't add up. All it takes is a little common sense and some first hand info.

2 things you know nothing about.

[Slander]

little common sense and some first hand info.

[/quote]

Axe got plenty of both. Like I said this is about respect. Respecting ones privacy when it comes to personal and professional life. Hell I just got Eye to admit that ew and people are his standard for accuracy. You guys are becoming a laughing stock by the moment. I take it the only books you guys have are coloring books? Damn you guys are both intellectually challenged.

[axecrew]

little common sense and some first hand info.

Axe got plenty of both. Like I said this is about respect. Respecting ones privacy when it comes to personal and professional life. Hell I just got Eye to admit that ew and people are his standard for accuracy. You guys are becoming a laughing stock by the moment. I take it the only books you guys have are coloring books? Damn you guys are both intellectually challenged.[/quote]

Where did he say that? He used them as examples........you must really have selective reading comp, 'cause you always seem to only read what you want and ignore the rest of it.

Again funny how you are the only one laughing.....not even your buddy JV is coming to your rescue.

[Slander]

Again funny how you are the only one laughing.....not even your buddy JV is coming to your rescue.

First no one is laughing. Second I don't need rescuing. I have asked you repeatedly why you and others are entitled to know FS business and personal dealings? Why can't you give me an answer axe? Why are you entitled? No one is laughing. It is a serious question? Oh wait you must be like Eye who believes our standard for information should be ew or people. Right? Accuracy be damned. It's a sad state of affairs for you axe man. or is it axe boy?

[axecrew]

Again funny how you are the only one laughing.....not even your buddy JV is coming to your rescue.

First no one is laughing. Second I don't need rescuing. I have asked you repeatedly why you and others are entitled to know FS business and personal dealings? Why can't you give me an answer axe? Why are you entitled? No one is laughing. It is a serious question? Oh wait you must be like Eye who believes our standard for information should be ew or people. Right? Accuracy be damned. It's a sad state of affairs for you axe man. or is it axe boy?

Nice little shot there, love the maturity you show. Now to your question....nowhere have I EVER said I was entitled so such info, and I DARE you to find where I did.
But when people in this business tell me things,I'm not going to put my fingers in my ears and go la-la-la-la not listening as you suggest I should do.
But people do tell me things in confidence and I hold on to that confidence.....need proof ask Vana....he told me something at the pre-show party before South Bend and I've not diclosed it on here at all.(Yes, Joe you were right about who I am). Besides Just like you don't have to justify yourself with me.......I don't have to with you. And I'll put my relationships with these guys up against you anyday. I'm I as close as Joe.....Nope never claimed to be either.

[Eyeof]

Slander did you mother have any childern that lived?

At any rate, you dumbass...

If you could read or listen, you would have seen that I said I could care less to know anything about Frankie's personal life. I don't care if he even has one.

He's a liar and that's all i need to know.

[Slander]

But when people in this business tell me things,I'm not going to put my fingers in my ears and go la-la-la-la not listening as you suggest I should do.
But people do tell me things in confidence and I hold on to that confidence.....need proof ask Vana....he told me something at the pre-show party before South Bend and I've not diclosed it on here at all.(Yes, Joe you were right about who I am). Besides Just like you don't have to justify yourself with me.......I don't have to with you. And I'll put my relationships with these guys up against you anyday. I'm I as close as Joe.....Nope never claimed to be either.

People tell you things and you just rant and rave here and make implications. Good for you in holding your confidence with others. You just leaking like a sieve by implication.

[Eyeof]

Also, it's very clear you should just shut up. Let us assume how stupid and ignorant you are and quit proving it. It's obvious that Axe has forgotten more about all this than you could hope to know.

[Slander]

Also, it's very clear you should just shut up. Let us assume how stupid and ignorant you are and quit proving it. It's obvious that Axe has forgotten more about all this than you could hope to know.

Eye why so hostile? LOL. I have never questioned axe's so called closeness to the situation. Merely pointed out it seems very one sided.

[axecrew]

But when people in this business tell me things,I'm not going to put my fingers in my ears and go la-la-la-la not listening as you suggest I should do.
But people do tell me things in confidence and I hold on to that confidence.....need proof ask Vana....he told me something at the pre-show party before South Bend and I've not diclosed it on here at all.(Yes, Joe you were right about who I am). Besides Just like you don't have to justify yourself with me.......I don't have to with you. And I'll put my relationships with these guys up against you anyday. I'm I as close as Joe.....Nope never claimed to be either.

People tell you things and you just rant and rave here and make implications. Good for you in holding your confidence with others. You just leaking like a sieve by implication.

Care to include proof of this??? Tell me where or what I've said,go ahead and show me the proof and I'll admit you were right and I was wrong.

[Slander]

But when people in this business tell me things,I'm not going to put my fingers in my ears and go la-la-la-la not listening as you suggest I should do.
But people do tell me things in confidence and I hold on to that confidence.....need proof ask Vana....he told me something at the pre-show party before South Bend and I've not diclosed it on here at all.(Yes, Joe you were right about who I am). Besides Just like you don't have to justify yourself with me.......I don't have to with you. And I'll put my relationships with these guys up against you anyday. I'm I as close as Joe.....Nope never claimed to be either.

People tell you things and you just rant and rave here and make implications. Good for you in holding your confidence with others. You just leaking like a sieve by implication.

Care to include proof of this??? Tell me where or what I've said,go ahead and show me the proof and I'll admit you were right and I was wrong.

How many times have you implied Sullivan was liar or not shady with the truth?

[Eyeof]

Oh did I ever imply he was a liar???

If so, let me come right out and fix that...

This is not an IMPLICATION: FRANKIE SULLIVAN IS A TWO-FACED LIAR

[Slander]

Oh did I ever imply he was a liar???

If so, let me come right out and fix that...

This is not an IMPLICATION: FRANKIE SULLIVAN IS A TWO-FACED LIAR

I'm glad you feel better Eye. I'm sure there are two sides to the story as there often are in these he said she said things. Now be a man a get over it. Damn!

[Eyeof]

I'll get over what i choose to or not to...

there is no he said...the man says one thing and does the other...i watched him do it...period.

Sorry if this hurts your image of the ego maniac. Sorry if that fails to jive with the crush you developed on him when you met him.

[Joe Vana]

Again funny how you are the only one laughing.....not even your buddy JV is coming to your rescue.

First no one is laughing. Second I don't need rescuing. I have asked you repeatedly why you and others are entitled to know FS business and personal dealings? Why can't you give me an answer axe? Why are you entitled? No one is laughing. It is a serious question? Oh wait you must be like Eye who believes our standard for information should be ew or people. Right? Accuracy be damned. It's a sad state of affairs for you axe man. or is it axe boy?

Nice little shot there, love the maturity you show. Now to your question....nowhere have I EVER said I was entitled so such info, and I DARE you to find where I did.
But when people in this business tell me things,I'm not going to put my fingers in my ears and go la-la-la-la not listening as you suggest I should do.
But people do tell me things in confidence and I hold on to that confidence.....need proof ask Vana....he told me something at the pre-show party before South Bend and I've not diclosed it on here at all.(Yes, Joe you were right about who I am). Besides Just like you don't have to justify yourself with me.......I don't have to with you. And I'll put my relationships with these guys up against you anyday. I'm I as close as Joe.....Nope never claimed to be either.

Ok...what did I do now!!???

As far as this thread it is a REALLY hard thing to speculate on....I know what the intentions are, I know what is hoped for.....but coming to fruition is really hard when you are creating art.....these things take ALOT of time and effort to do right....you can shit out an album every year, or even two a year, but will it be art??? Or just a PRODUCT....

I hope everybody is happy, healthy and well!!!.....and that means everybody!!!!

Now...I am back to the studio.....

JV

[Red13JoePa]

Welcome back, Joe V.

We've had our "discussions" but your input is missed here.

[Slander]

Now...I am back to the studio.....

JV

Can't wait until the finished product. Best of luck JV!

[Joe Vana]

Now...I am back to the studio.....

JV

Can't wait until the finished product. Best of luck JV!

It won't be "product"......



Talk soon guys!!

JV

[Eyeof]

geezee...call the man's art a product...