jimi jamison - keep it evergreen

by **Irwin M Fletcher** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:27 am

any1 got a copy of this track? it was on the 2nd release of the empires album. i got the first one. and who else classes this as a survivoir album? i know FS is not on it but it is great anyway

by **Eyeof** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:29 am

The Album is NOT a Survivior album, but it's pretty good. In fact it's a lot better than Reach.

by **Irwin M Fletcher** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:31 am

Eyeof wrote:The Album is NOT a Survivior album, but it's pretty good. In fact it's a lot better than Reach.

yeh, but i have it in my survivor cd pile. i love it

by **Slander** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:39 am

Eyeof wrote:The Album is NOT a Survivior album, but it's pretty good. In fact it's a lot better than Reach.

Please! Reach is a solid effort.

by **Irwin M Fletcher** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:47 am

slander, do u have the track keep it evergreen?

by **Slander** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:55 am

Irwin M Fletcher wrote:slander, do u have the track keep it evergreen?

No I don't but have heard. I'm just tired of all the REACH bashing on the board. When Reach came out everyone sang its praises on the board. Then once JJ and Frankie parted ways it SUDDENLY became a crappy album.

by **Irwin M Fletcher** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:57 am

Slander wrote:
Irwin M Fletcher wrote:slander, do u have the track keep it evergreen?

No I don't but have heard. I'm just tired of all the REACH bashing on the board. When Reach came out everyone sang its praises on the board. Then once JJ and Frankie parted ways it SUDDENLY became a crappy album.

i like evrything survivor related. i know JP is not on it but i still call it a survivor album

by **Red13JoePa** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:00 am

Slander wrote:
Irwin M Fletcher wrote:slander, do u have the track keep it evergreen?

No I don't but have heard. I'm just tired of all the REACH bashing on the board. When Reach came out everyone sang its praises on the board. Then once JJ and Frankie parted ways it SUDDENLY became a crappy album.

That's in your mind, guy, along with a lot of wreckage.
Reach barely got talked about at all here when it came out and that's still the case. Nor have the few people who've spoken of it here changed their opinion of it.

by **Slander** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:00 am

Irwin M Fletcher wrote:
Slander wrote:
Irwin M Fletcher wrote:slander, do u have the track keep it evergreen?

No I don't but have heard. I'm just tired of all the REACH bashing on the board. When Reach came out everyone sang its praises on the board. Then once JJ and Frankie parted ways it SUDDENLY became a crappy album.

i like evrything survivor related. i know JP is not on it but i still call it a survivor album

His influences are on the album! No question. I have no doubt in my mind the FS and JP have the greatest professional respect for each other despite what has happened over the years.

by **Slander** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:01 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
Slander wrote:
Irwin M Fletcher wrote:slander, do u have the track keep it evergreen?

No I don't but have heard. I'm just tired of all the REACH bashing on the board. When Reach came out everyone sang its praises on the board. Then once JJ and Frankie parted ways it SUDDENLY became a crappy album.

That's in your mind, guy, along with a lot of wreckage.
Reach barely got talked about at all here when it came out and that's still the case. Nor have the few people who've spoken of it here changed their opinion of it.

Red I couldn't disagree more on the topic. I remember the build up and the conversation afterward!

by **Red13JoePa** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:07 am

Pfff.
Whatever.
Well, who changed their opinion of it since Jamison's ouster? Can you NAME anyone or point out some of that evidence, or aren't you a responsible journalist who just throws noise up on the wall to see what stays?
I DEMAND you back up your holdings with facts or else retract. I DEMAND that you INTERVIEW said flopping posters to give them a chance to qualify their reasonings. I REQUIRE that you hold their feet to the fire, like a down-the-middle journalist and ask if they only changed their opinions of the record out of anger for franky.

I thought it was solid/good if somewhat disapointing then and do now.

by **Eyeof** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:19 am

Red I just find Empries to be a lot more solid effort than Reach. Reach for the most part if 1. Filler 2. Songs that were done better on FMS. I think it just really showed how Frankie had a hard time adapting and doing much without JP to guide him through the process. It's a weak album.

PERSONALLY, i'd prefer to listen to Empires over Reach. Is that okay RED?

by **Eyeof** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:20 am

and RED, don't get me started on FS's God Awful vocals...

by **Eyeof** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:35 am

When Jimi Jamison calls a song too pop...you know you have a problem...

"You're always talkin' Bout Love...." talk about the cheese factor meter hitting red early...

by **bomes** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:33 am

Here you can listen to the song

http://www.lastfm.de/music/Jimi+Jamison ... s+Track%29

by **Red13JoePa** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:36 am

Jamison's voice, imo, is second to none in AOR.

However, I do question some of the material he puts that voice to.

by **Irwin M Fletcher** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:35 am

bomes wrote:Here you can listen to the song

http://www.lastfm.de/music/Jimi+Jamison ... s+Track%29

cheers but do u have it on mp3?

by **IngoK** » Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:26 pm

Irwin M Fletcher wrote:
bomes wrote:Here you can listen to the song

http://www.lastfm.de/music/Jimi+Jamison ... s+Track%29

cheers but do u have it on mp3?

Not available on iTunes? The track is not really good, but for a collector...

by **Slander** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:46 am

Eyeof wrote:Red I just find Empries to be a lot more solid effort than Reach. Reach for the most part if 1. Filler 2. Songs that were done better on FMS. I think it just really showed how Frankie had a hard time adapting and doing much without JP to guide him through the process. It's a weak album.

PERSONALLY, i'd prefer to listen to Empires over Reach. Is that okay RED?

Yeah I really enjoyed the live filler on Empries. Yeah superior.

by **Irwin M Fletcher** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:05 am

Slander wrote:
Eyeof wrote:Red I just find Empries to be a lot more solid effort than Reach. Reach for the most part if 1. Filler 2. Songs that were done better on FMS. I think it just really showed how Frankie had a hard time adapting and doing much without JP to guide him through the process. It's a weak album.

PERSONALLY, i'd prefer to listen to Empires over Reach. Is that okay RED?

Yeah I really enjoyed the live filler on Empries. Yeah superior.

i have the cd single of im always here and theres a kick ass live version ot too hot to sleep...its missing the talents of Peterik and Sullivan but still good none the less

by **Andrew** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:50 am

Slander wrote:
Eyeof wrote:The Album is NOT a Survivior album, but it's pretty good. In fact it's a lot better than Reach.

Please! Reach is a solid effort.

Solid enough, but disappointing in hindsight once the 'fog of joy' over a new release being available lifted.

Empires was a far superior album.

by **MarcelJordan** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:37 pm

Andrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
Eyeof wrote:The Album is NOT a Survivior album, but it's pretty good. In fact it's a lot better than Reach.

Please! Reach is a solid effort.

Solid enough, but disappointing in hindsight once the 'fog of joy' over a new release being available lifted.

Empires was a far superior album.

Andrew, you were supposed to come back about the sales of REACH. 30k was the unofficial amount the last time I heard. What has your research found out?

MR

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