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Postby Slander » Sun Feb 08, 2009 3:13 am

axecrew wrote:I'm not against all things sullivan, I'm against the continued mantra by slander and sullivan(to a lesser extent) that sullivan is and was the be all, end all when it comes to the band.


Hey Axe, I never said FS is the end all be all. Your words not mine. Even if I did it certainly could be argued he is. I believe as many do: JJ and JP will never be Survivor without the sound FS brings. It's that simple. Having said that CM is a nice record and I hope it does well. I own all the POL albums and like them but this reminds me of a fourth featuring JJ. As far as me having a guilt conscience, the only thing I'm guilty of is having a silly give and take with you on this board. Seriously guy you let your emotions get in the way of reality.
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Postby axecrew » Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:41 am

Slander wrote:
axecrew wrote:I'm not against all things sullivan, I'm against the continued mantra by slander and sullivan(to a lesser extent) that sullivan is and was the be all, end all when it comes to the band.


Hey Axe, I never said FS is the end all be all. Your words not mine. Even if I did it certainly could be argued he is. I believe as many do: JJ and JP will never be Survivor without the sound FS brings. It's that simple. Having said that CM is a nice record and I hope it does well. I own all the POL albums and like them but this reminds me of a fourth featuring JJ. As far as me having a guilt conscience, the only thing I'm guilty of is having a silly give and take with you on this board. Seriously guy you let your emotions get in the way of reality.


Wow.....where to start.....guess we'll start with the highlighted portions....even if you did it could be argued he is......this must be that passive agressive that they talk about with you. Cute little way of saying it,without saying it.

You believe like others that Jim and Jimi will never be survivor.......that's nice, I'm still waiting to see where they said they were. I said they were the real survivor and last I looked I don't speak for them, I speak to them not for them.
Jim wrote an album of songs that was suited for Jimi's voice and guess what? It sounds like survivor, more than reach did. A good songwriter will write to his vocalist strengths Jimi's is the survivor 80's sound. That's just common sense if you write songs.But as I said in the other thread...they don't have to compete with the survivor legacy like sullivan does since they no longer carry the survivor name.
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Postby Slander » Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:50 am

axecrew wrote: Cute little way of saying it,without saying it.
You believe like others that Jim and Jimi will never be survivor.......that's nice, I'm still waiting to see where they said they were.


There is nothing passive agressive about it. I like all parties and forever believe that Survivor was the magic of JP and FS songwriting and FS guitar work. I never said JP and JS thought they were Survivor those are your words. Like I said you need to keep your emotions in check and read what was truly said. By the way what about the Above The Storm sales figures?
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Postby Eyeof » Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:53 am

Above the Storm is not a very good album...neither is Reach...what's the point?

Axe says that CM is more like Surivor. Personally I've never heard it, so i can't say. But what does Above the Storm have to do with it?

Slander, even you have to see his point. He's saying simply that Sullivan and McSurvivor are the ones that have to live up the name. Not JJ, or JP or Dave or anyone as they knew when to leave the past in the past.
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Postby axecrew » Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:10 am

Thank-You... someone finally gets it. I should've known it would be one of the more logical people on this board and not the hot-headed ones.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:56 am

Eyeof wrote:Above the Storm is not a very good album...neither is Reach...what's the point?

Axe says that CM is more like Surivor. Personally I've never heard it, so i can't say. But what does Above the Storm have to do with it?

Slander, even you have to see his point. He's saying simply that Sullivan and McSurvivor are the ones that have to live up the name. Not JJ, or JP or Dave or anyone as they knew when to leave the past in the past.


Above the Storm is a great fuckin album and Reach is much too maligned around here. It's not Survivor's shining moment (obviously), but it's very listenable top to bottom for me. Unlike, say, Journey's Generations.
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Postby Joe Vana » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:23 am

Slander wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Too much work to go there.

You're the reporter, bring back the details of Frankie's record clearing and truth standing up-for.


Do it yourself red and make an effort. Oh I forgot you don't want to let facts get in the way of your opinions.


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Postby bulldog » Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:39 am

I think" Above The Storm "has some cool tracks on it. The production is great and Jim used the Van Zant brothers a lot for co-writing. It was a JIM PETERIK cd not Survivor , 38 Special , Pride Of Lions or Jimi Jamison . Peterik is a stylist that is not stuck in one format . He is out there working the material with a passion and fire that has never died . Peterik kept making new music and writing the whole time through all the b/s with Survivor . He doesn't have to prove anything to anyone . He made his mark .

I am glad Frankie is answering questions . I think us fans want his words on a new disc full of kick ass music instead of all these other guys doing it. It is funny to me that everyone seems to forget REACH didn't rock . I am a huge fan of Frankie's playing and writing . His sound and production is in a league and a sound all his own . I loved his work with Eddie Money more than some of the Survivor material . I think Eddie made a mistake not following up Ready Eddie with another with Frankie .

Jimi's new cd is great . Peterik and Jamison have the magic together now. Peterik needs Jamo to deliver the songs message and Jamo needs Peterik to write songs for him . Everyone has to agree with this.

Frankie also doesn't have to prove anything to anyone but it seems like this board keeps callin him out . Frankie needs a kick ass cd of solo or a new Survivor cd to level the playing field.
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Postby Slander » Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:55 pm

bulldog wrote:Frankie also doesn't have to prove anything to anyone but it seems like this board keeps callin him out .


I've been saying this the last two years on this board. Frankie doesn't have anything to prove especially to some who reside here. He can not satisfy people are unsatisfiable!
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Postby Slander » Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:57 pm

[quote="Joe Vana"Slander my man....chill my brother...this is a messageboard, can't get pissed at everything.....

JV[/quote]

JV point well taken, but when people bitch on this board about FS and the fact that he doesn't inform his fans blah blah blah etc, and now he is opening up and others won't even bother to read what he's saying. It's pretty weak. It tells me they want to keep their head in the sand. But JV I do hear ya.
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Postby Journey/Survivor » Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:13 pm

I've intentionally been trying to stay out of this. But I'll say one thing here that's not gonna make me any friends.

Here goes...

There is TONS of HYPOCRISY from several of the forum members here on MR, and it's on both sides of the fence. Both sides of the arguments are often blown way out of proportion. And it's quite annoying.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:10 am

Frankie seems to be popping in about once a day answering stuff and seems enthusiastic about expounding upon details of sessions and recording song parts....I had a real good give-and-take w/ him on the pros and cons of the demo FMS vs the Reach version (weird talking to the writer of the song about a demo that's illegal to have and wonder if he's gonna go, "you know dude, you shouldn't even know what the demo sounds like you thief").

He told a great story about working w/ Stallone on incorporating EOTT into RIII during film production and editing (including a part where he volunteered to move Stallone's car so he could joyride it :P ).
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Postby jrnyman28 » Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:21 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Frankie seems to be popping in about once a day answering stuff and seems enthusiastic about expounding upon details of sessions and recording song parts....I had a real good give-and-take w/ him on the pros and cons of the demo FMS vs the Reach version (weird talking to the writer of the song about a demo that's illegal to have and wonder if he's gonna go, "you know dude, you shouldn't even know what the demo sounds like you thief").

He told a great story about working w/ Stallone on incorporating EOTT into RIII during film production and editing (including a part where he volunteered to move Stallone's car so he could joyride it :P ).


Sounds cool Red.

I had a similar moment talking to Jani about his unreleased solo CD 'Jabberwocky". He was going to get it officially released by the end of 2007 (never happened) and I was discussing what I knew of the disc. He actually did mention that I was talking about a boot that was not finished at all and sounded like shit. It was a little awkward for a second.
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