A little taste of some new Survivor music

[MarcelJordan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEaPZG2fTc4

[Franky]

This sounds extremely .... boring - If McAuley could turn this into a good tune - i don't think so.

[MarcelJordan]

Its just a little appetizer, bordering on not giving much away. So boring may have been the intention LOL!

The pace of the tune seems quite similar to Silver Girl and there are elements of SG in it imo. SG easily blows this out of the water though!

[Ehwmatt]

Who knows, it's a minute of instrumental mix. No judgment passed here.

[Red13JoePa]

boring may have been the intention LOL!

Should bode well, then!

[MarcelJordan]

Who knows, it's a minute of instrumental mix. No judgment passed here.

Yes, you can't really judge it, but I think its got potential. It's got a name : How Do You Feel About Love

[youkeepmewaiting]

Who knows, it's a minute of instrumental mix. No judgment passed here.

Yes, you can't really judge it, but I think its got potential. It's got a name : How Do You Feel About Love

Bit of a country theme it.

I'm sure it will sound... ok wih vocals etc.. but they need to play something bit heavier on the album than this.

But then again.. Survivor suck (without the JBoyz <different JBoyz aha>)

[axecrew]

Hmmmmm.....very uninspiring but what do I know. Guess we'll get a "true" picture of things once this "project"is complete. So it's working title is How do you feel about love..huh? Based on the clip, I'd guess the answer is very bleh. Marcel..your reponse begs the answer to this question..You think it has potential what? Because quite honestly it doesn't sound anything like a survivor song right now. I'm assuming sullivan wrote this along with mccauley. Where's that signature sound we all keep hearing about, or is it somewhere other than this clip?

[MarcelJordan]

Hmmmmm.....very uninspiring but what do I know. Guess we'll get a "true" picture of things once this "project"is complete. So it's working title is How do you feel about love..huh? Based on the clip, I'd guess the answer is very bleh. Marcel..your reponse begs the answer to this question..You think it has potential what? Because quite honestly it doesn't sound anything like a survivor song right now. I'm assuming sullivan wrote this along with mccauley. Where's that signature sound we all keep hearing about, or is it somewhere other than this clip?

Glad you asked. But not sure whether you'll be glad with my answer

Firstly, its not a working title. It IS the Title.

Secondly, I agree it doesn't sound much like a Survivor tune BUT there is, IMHO, a touch of Silver Girl in it, granted with NONE of the urgency . What I do like about it, are the bass lines and a classic rock sound, rather than todays sound if that makes sense.

[Red13JoePa]

Where's that signature sound we all keep hearing about, or is it somewhere other than this clip?

I was waiting for the much-spoken-of signature sound as well but did not hear it on that clip.
Reach had it in spots.

[axecrew]

Maybe that signature sound has been.....misplaced? Lost , left out??

[MarcelJordan]

Where's that signature sound we all keep hearing about, or is it somewhere other than this clip?

I was waiting for the much-spoken-of signature sound as well but did not hear it on that clip.
Reach had it in spots.

So if you took a particular Reach tune and heard 40 secs, you should hear the signature sound, is that what you mean?

[Ehwmatt]

Where's that signature sound we all keep hearing about, or is it somewhere other than this clip?

I was waiting for the much-spoken-of signature sound as well but did not hear it on that clip.
Reach had it in spots.

So if you took a particular Reach tune and heard 40 secs, you should hear the signature sound, is that what you mean?

First 20 seconds of "Reach" itself is clearly Survivor. Fire Makes Steel, Seconds Away (Frankie guitar sound - Across The Miles vein), and maybe if you wanna stretch it, Talkin Bout Love too. Reach isn't that bad of an album at all.

[Red13JoePa]

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[Red13JoePa]

Where's that signature sound we all keep hearing about, or is it somewhere other than this clip?

I was waiting for the much-spoken-of signature sound as well but did not hear it on that clip.
Reach had it in spots.

So if you took a particular Reach tune and heard 40 secs, you should hear the signature sound, is that what you mean?

Yes, that's what I mean, DEPENDING on the song snippet.
And what in hell, by the way, do YOU mean with the post abouve suggesting they purposely avoided tantalizing fans with exciting Survivor music?
You lull the fans to sleep, wane interest, and lower expectations so the "project: explodes and sales soar?
Where's the Kerrrangggg and thumpthumpthump???

[MarcelJordan]

Where's that signature sound we all keep hearing about, or is it somewhere other than this clip?

I was waiting for the much-spoken-of signature sound as well but did not hear it on that clip.
Reach had it in spots.

So if you took a particular Reach tune and heard 40 secs, you should hear the signature sound, is that what you mean?

Yes, that's what I mean, DEPENDING on the song snippet.
And what in hell, by the way, do YOU mean with the post abouve suggesting they purposely avoided tantalizing fans with exciting Survivor music?
You lull the fans to sleep, wane interest, and lower expectations so the "project: explodes and sales soar?
Where's the Kerrrangggg and thumpthumpthump???

I would wager that FS as he being so secretive all these years, will not reveal too much of some "great" new tunes just yet, until he knows no one's gonna infiltrate the recordings and start releasing the stuff before they're ready. This day age we know how much things get leaked.

Speaking of signature Survivor sound, there's a little bit some "Stephan ellis" styled plodding bass in the snippet.

[Idiosyncrasy]

Oh god that's a really disappointing clip!

Sounds too much like the last album and the weaker FMS demos - very light, mellow, acoustic, and with a country-esque vibe. That's not the classic Survivor sound to me. I hope the rest of the album finds its way back to the moody, urgent feel of the band's earlier material. Something heavier in the vein of Caught in the Game or Too Hot to Sleep would be appropriate for Robin's vocals. I'm worried about how his voice will fit lighter material - he's a screecher not a crooner!

At the risk of being controversial, I think the main constituent of the Survivor sound walked out of the door in 1996...
Crossroads Moment, while lacking some of the bite and attitude that Frankie brought to the table, still sounds 90% like Vital Signs/WSC Survivor to me. There were some okay songs on Reach (mainly the JP co-writes!) but the attempts to write the same kind of anthems (Reach, Gimme the Word, Talkin' Bout Love), while good songs, don't really sound like any previous era of Survivor. Stick 'Behind the Music' or 'Friends We've Never Met' on, and within seconds the Survivor magic's there. To me, it's not Survivor without Jim AND Frankie, but if Reach is anything to go by, then Jim is responsible for at least 90% of the Survivor sound as pertains to songwriting.

Still, I'll be interested to see what Frankie comes up with. I'm sure it'll be a good AOR album, I'm just not expecting it to sound like Survivor.

- Danny.

[Ehwmatt]

Oh god that's a really disappointing clip!

Sounds too much like the last album and the weaker FMS demos - very light, mellow, acoustic, and with a country-esque vibe. That's not the classic Survivor sound to me. I hope the rest of the album finds its way back to the moody, urgent feel of the band's earlier material. Something heavier in the vein of Caught in the Game or Too Hot to Sleep would be appropriate for Robin's vocals. I'm worried about how his voice will fit lighter material - he's a screecher not a crooner!

At the risk of being controversial, I think the main constituent of the Survivor sound walked out of the door in 1996...
Crossroads Moment, while lacking some of the bite and attitude that Frankie brought to the table, still sounds 90% like Vital Signs/WSC Survivor to me. There were some okay songs on Reach (mainly the JP co-writes!) but the attempts to write the same kind of anthems (Reach, Gimme the Word, Talkin' Bout Love), while good songs, don't really sound like any previous era of Survivor. Stick 'Behind the Music' or 'Friends We've Never Met' on, and within seconds the Survivor magic's there. To me, it's not Survivor without Jim AND Frankie, but if Reach is anything to go by, then Jim is responsible for at least 90% of the Survivor sound as pertains to songwriting.

Still, I'll be interested to see what Frankie comes up with. I'm sure it'll be a good AOR album, I'm just not expecting it to sound like Survivor.

- Danny.

I gotta agree with you. JP's vocal melodies/keyboard lines really make/made the Survivor sound. Frankie was like adding the seasoning or the baste at the end - it really made it "great," but on its own, something's missing.

[MarcelJordan]

WRT to the sound bite, I'm actually getting into it. Made an mp3 of it and after few more listens I think it's hardly like anything from Reach. Dare I say it's closer to the EOTT album in sound. I guess I could say it sounds much free-er (if that's a word).

A longer version with some vocals might just fit the puzzle.

[Joe Vana]

WRT to the sound bite, I'm actually getting into it. Made an mp3 of it and after few more listens I think it's hardly like anything from Reach. Dare I say it's closer to the EOTT album in sound. I guess I could say it sounds much free-er (if that's a word).

A longer version with some vocals might just fit the puzzle.

[MarcelJordan]

WRT to the sound bite, I'm actually getting into it. Made an mp3 of it and after few more listens I think it's hardly like anything from Reach. Dare I say it's closer to the EOTT album in sound. I guess I could say it sounds much free-er (if that's a word).

A longer version with some vocals might just fit the puzzle.

I HAVE heard the song in its entirety with the lush keyboards, solid rock guitars and the great vocals by Robin, and backing vocals...HUGE song my friends...ALL SURVIVOR....what is in that clip is like 30% of the tune.....

Rock On Gents.....

JV

Excellent Joe! Funny you mentioned Lush keyboards because there are minute parts of what I hear so far in the mini clip that kind of remind of the awesome Caught In The Balance (Toto). Albeit that being a totally different tune in context and having a faster tempo.

[Joe Vana]

WRT to the sound bite, I'm actually getting into it. Made an mp3 of it and after few more listens I think it's hardly like anything from Reach. Dare I say it's closer to the EOTT album in sound. I guess I could say it sounds much free-er (if that's a word).

A longer version with some vocals might just fit the puzzle.

I HAVE heard the song in its entirety with the lush keyboards, solid rock guitars and the great vocals by Robin, and backing vocals...HUGE song my friends...ALL SURVIVOR....what is in that clip is like 30% of the tune.....

Rock On Gents.....

JV

[Red13JoePa]

I just love it when keyboards are lush.

[axecrew]

As apposed to the players right?!

[MarcelJordan]

WRT to the sound bite, I'm actually getting into it. Made an mp3 of it and after few more listens I think it's hardly like anything from Reach. Dare I say it's closer to the EOTT album in sound. I guess I could say it sounds much free-er (if that's a word).

A longer version with some vocals might just fit the puzzle.

I HAVE heard the song in its entirety with the lush keyboards, solid rock guitars and the great vocals by Robin, and backing vocals...HUGE song my friends...ALL SURVIVOR....what is in that clip is like 30% of the tune.....

Rock On Gents.....

JV

Excellent Joe! Funny you mentioned Lush keyboards because there are minute parts of what I hear so far in the mini clip that kind of remind of the awesome Caught In The Balance (Toto). Albeit that being a totally different tune in context and having a faster tempo.

I don't think the keyboards are even on in the clip....but trust me, they are mighty on the full version....

JV

You're probably right, but I feel there is a mix of keyboard and bass guitar throughout the sample. However, you've privy to the whole thing so rest of us are left with the hope that its a great tune. I can't wait!

[Joe Vana]

WRT to the sound bite, I'm actually getting into it. Made an mp3 of it and after few more listens I think it's hardly like anything from Reach. Dare I say it's closer to the EOTT album in sound. I guess I could say it sounds much free-er (if that's a word).

A longer version with some vocals might just fit the puzzle.

I HAVE heard the song in its entirety with the lush keyboards, solid rock guitars and the great vocals by Robin, and backing vocals...HUGE song my friends...ALL SURVIVOR....what is in that clip is like 30% of the tune.....

Rock On Gents.....

JV

[MarcelJordan]

Simply put, the clip does not do the tune Justice!!!

JV

This new tune seems to have the same tempo if not exact of Silver Girl, very similar bass too. Do you agree?

[Eyeof]

At least we know they are doing something, so let's see what comes out of it right?

[MarcelJordan]

At least we know they are doing something, so let's see what comes out of it right?

Hey Eye of, do you agree with my view that the tempo and bass of How Do You Feel About Love is close to Silver Girl?