My Crossroads Moment CD Review

[TageRyche]

Well here's my opinion about the CD.

CD REVIEW LINK!

[Eyeof]

I do need to acquire this cd...i wonder when itunes will have it? I hate paying silly prices to get it from some unreliable internet site.

[Red13JoePa]

I do need to acquire this cd...i wonder when itunes will have it? I hate paying silly prices to get it from some unreliable internet site.

Agreed, which is STILL the only way to get f-ing Reach legally.

[Slander]

I do need to acquire this cd...i wonder when itunes will have it? I hate paying silly prices to get it from some unreliable internet site.

Agreed, which is STILL the only way to get f-ing Reach legally.

try nehrecords.com. They are out of colorado. It's where I buy my stuff. Great prices too! Nice people.

[Red13JoePa]

My point and I think EyeOf's is that we like to walk into the record store, pick the album, go to the counter and pay regular CD price for it.
You cannot do that with Reach, as it has never been released in the US.

[Ehwmatt]

At least it's on iTunes.... there's still some albums that haven't come out on iTunes even. THAT pisses me off.

[Red13JoePa]

Is Reach back on itunes?
If so, that at least, is good.

[Slander]

My point and I think EyeOf's is that we like to walk into the record store, pick the album, go to the counter and pay regular CD price for it.
You cannot do that with Reach, as it has never been released in the US.

Sorry Red. My point is that you could by JJ's new one at a decent price at NEH records here in the states! Just pick up the phone. The customer service is great. I was not referring to REACH at all. I was merely trying to tell you that you could pick up Crossroads moment quickly and at a good price.

[Red13JoePa]

My point and I think EyeOf's is that we like to walk into the record store, pick the album, go to the counter and pay regular CD price for it.
You cannot do that with Reach, as it has never been released in the US.

Sorry Red. My point is that you could by JJ's new one at a decent price at NEH records here in the states! Just pick up the phone. The customer service is great. I was not referring to REACH at all. I was merely trying to tell you that you could pick up Crossroads moment quickly and at a good price.

Typically obfuscating retort making every discussion questiong the band "but Jimi...".
But not entirely unanticipated, my non-brain surgeon fellow poster.
However, my post clearly was discussing Reach's red-haired step child status, not Crossroads Moment.
Yes, Jamison's album is disapointingly relegated to the same status as Reach: You have to send away and overpay for it in the US.

But, having read the often posted and quoted here Jamison interview, we KNOW why he has to scale budgets down and do things on the cheap per se, and not secure US distribution. The reasons led to angry backlash and counter accusations from your like.
Now.
What's Frankie's, who by your and other accounts here has more money than God, excuse for cheaping out on Reach's distribution? Surely with his pockets, which you will happily point out are deeper than the Grand Canyon rendering him COMPLETELY incapable of caring to respond to us here (when a recent post on his site seemed a direct response to a post here questioning his ability to look peterik/jamison/bickler in the eye) he could easily have secured US distribution with some wallet slitting and pull exertion.

[MarcelJordan]

My point and I think EyeOf's is that we like to walk into the record store, pick the album, go to the counter and pay regular CD price for it.
You cannot do that with Reach, as it has never been released in the US.

Are there still record stores?

Red, do you really want to go out and buy an album these days? On the net is still considered officially sold I would presume.

[Slander]

I do need to acquire this cd...i wonder when itunes will have it? I hate paying silly prices to get it from some unreliable internet site.

Agreed, which is STILL the only way to get f-ing Reach legally.

Red, I couldn't give a damn about reach. Both you and Eye of don't like paying silly prices. I gave you the name of a great company here in the states that has Crossroads Moment at a decent price. What's the problem? Ask Andrew about NEH Records out of Colorado. Fine company!

[Journey/Survivor]

I go through impulsemusic.com out of Illinois. Pretty good prices, and the owner seems like a nice guy. He likes Melodic Rock bands a lot too, Survivor, Journey etc, etc. You can order either by phone or on the website directly.

[Slander]

I go through impulsemusic.com out of Illinois. Pretty good prices, and the owner seems like a nice guy. He likes Melodic Rock bands a lot too, Survivor, Journey etc, etc. You can order either by phone or on the website directly.

Thanks for the tip. I don't buy that melodic rock records are too expensive are hard to get nonsense. I bought reach for 14.99 and had in 3 days! The guys bitching aren't looking hard enough. Here's where you can get Jamo's:http://nehrecords.com/shop/JamisonCrossroads.htm#FRCD393. It's 16.99! Hardly breaking the bank. Yes we all miss the days of the record store but in some ways this is extremely convenient.

[Red13JoePa]

You're ignoring the point as usual.
The record stores that do exist here like Best Buy, CC, FYE, Target and the few mom and pops etc didn't have the opportunity to offer Reach or CM to fans, both for the same reason essentially. Not talking about imports, either which is the way I was forced to get Reach.

[Slander]

The record stores that do exist here like Best Buy, CC, FYE, Target and the few mom and pops etc didn't have the opportunity to offer Reach or CM to fans, both for the same reason essentially. Not talking about imports, either which is the way I was forced to get Reach.

No shit red! My point is that there is No point in the point you are making. It doesn't matter where you get it any more as long as you can get it and at a good price!

[Red13JoePa]

BUT FOR THE BAND ISN'T IT BETTER TO SECURE A US DISTRIBUTION? DOESN'T IT MAKE SENSE TO ENSURE THAT?????????

REO, LOVERBOY, SKID ROW, QUIET RIOT, even JOURNEY, all bands in a similar boat as Survivor yet all of their latest albums were available at US retail outlets.

[TageRyche]

While I'm glad that my review thread has sparked debate...was there any feedback on the actual review?

[Joe Vana]

BUT FOR THE BAND ISN'T IT BETTER TO SECURE A US DISTRIBUTION? DOESN'T IT MAKE SENSE TO ENSURE THAT?????????

REO, LOVERBOY, SKID ROW, QUIET RIOT, even JOURNEY, all bands in a similar boat as Survivor yet all of their latest albums were available at US retail outlets.

Not easy to come by....and all those bands would outsell Survivor at this point....easier to get a US deal when you can guarentee sales numbers....

JV

[Eyeof]

What I could never figure out is why Reach was on itunes and then vanished a few days later...it's not like you can 'sell out' of digital downloads...

[Red13JoePa]

BUT FOR THE BAND ISN'T IT BETTER TO SECURE A US DISTRIBUTION? DOESN'T IT MAKE SENSE TO ENSURE THAT?????????

REO, LOVERBOY, SKID ROW, QUIET RIOT, even JOURNEY, all bands in a similar boat as Survivor yet all of their latest albums were available at US retail outlets.

Not easy to come by....and all those bands would outsell Survivor at this point....easier to get a US deal when you can guarentee sales numbers....

JV

LOVERBOY??????
And I'm not denigrating them at all, I like them, bought Just Getting Started, but I just can't believe they were that much more marketable with that release than Survivor was w/ Reach.
Did Survivor try to get the US distribution done?

[Joe Vana]

BUT FOR THE BAND ISN'T IT BETTER TO SECURE A US DISTRIBUTION? DOESN'T IT MAKE SENSE TO ENSURE THAT?????????

REO, LOVERBOY, SKID ROW, QUIET RIOT, even JOURNEY, all bands in a similar boat as Survivor yet all of their latest albums were available at US retail outlets.

Not easy to come by....and all those bands would outsell Survivor at this point....easier to get a US deal when you can guarentee sales numbers....

JV

LOVERBOY??????
And I'm not denigrating them at all, I like them, bought Just Getting Started, but I just can't believe they were that much more marketable with that release than Survivor was w/ Reach.
Did Survivor try to get the US distribution done?

Because Loverboy still plays a good amount live, and their overall sales were more through the years....that is the info and intel that the lables use....

I got a copy from Frankie a long while back...and the impulsemusic guys here in Chicago are really great...I bought a Mecca CD there about a year ago for a friend since I do not own a copy of my own.....go figure...

JV

[Tito]

I went to Remember When Record in Westmont, IL (near Chicago) looking for it. They usually have a lot of stuff especially Chicago bands related stuff (Survivor, Ides, Chicago, etc.). The owner didn't even know about the release. Now that you mention it, I don't think he has Reach either. He has all the other Survivor CDs except for that one and (would you believe) Vital Signs. I may go back in the next day or two to see if he ordered Crossroads.

[RockInDetroit]

BUT FOR THE BAND ISN'T IT BETTER TO SECURE A US DISTRIBUTION? DOESN'T IT MAKE SENSE TO ENSURE THAT?????????

REO, LOVERBOY, SKID ROW, QUIET RIOT, even JOURNEY, all bands in a similar boat as Survivor yet all of their latest albums were available at US retail outlets.

I think many of you hardcore Survivor fans overestimate the impact Survivor had. Even in their heyday Survivor never headlined an Arena show. All of those bands above did (except maybe Skidrow).

[Red13JoePa]

I'm not saying any of the above (save Journey) were huge arena headliners.
The opposite in fact, pointing out they were mostly support acts on arena tours but all were able to secure US distribution for their latest records.

[Tito]

I'm not saying any of the above (save Journey) were huge arena headliners.
The opposite in fact, pointing out they were mostly support acts on arena tours but all were able to secure US distribution for their latest records.

I think that was the problem with Survivor, they never could follow up. After Eye Of The Tiger, their next album was a flop commerically. Not a bad album at all but it didn't connect with the masses. They got a second opportunity with Vital Signs and then the follow up WSC didn't too well. Yes it went gold and had a hit single (ironically I think one of the weaker songs on the album) but it didn't follow up strong overall. Had it been the equivalent to VS or even better maybe they could've had something. Or had VS directly followed EOTT, maybe that could've put them over the top.

[Eyeof]

Interesting topic...

I would say definately Skid Row grew bigger than Survivor...maybe not a true headliner, but opening for Bon Jovi and in stadiums for Guns N' Roses...

Reo Speedwagon - I would say yes as well. They stayed around a while, but were pretty much a true ballad band as far as the hits.

Loverboy - I never got it at all, but I suppose they were for a while.

Quite Riot - Indeed...they became a joke later, but people loved them early on.


What about Night Ranger?

[TageRyche]

Interesting topic...

Might be more interesting if that was the point of the original post.

[jrnyman28]

Interesting topic...

Might be more interesting if that was the point of the original post.

You mean you expect the posters of MR.com to actually STAY ON TOPIC???

[Ehwmatt]

My take on Crossroads Moment:

Production - Can't say it enough, this is a masterfully produced CD. I expected nothing less. Everything sounds great and even the track order is very good. I know there was another producer involved, but this has all the hallmarks of a solid JP production. Good track order, great mixing, good levels, and most importantly, good performances.

Songs - Range from good to great. Highlights for me are "That's Why I Sing," "Friends We Never Met," "Bittersweet," "Behind The Music," "Love The World Away" (despite the obvious homage to Heaven on Earth from The Roaring of Dreams), and "She's Nothing To Me." All the others I didn't mention are well worth multiple repeat listens.

Performances - Mike Aquino(s)? is a fuckin monster. I love this guy's work in Pride of Lions and I love his work here too. Everything else is great, keyboard tones in particular are huge and never sound cheesy (dated in parts, but this is fuckin melodic rock we're talkin about here) and the harmonies are great. I do agree that this album sounds a ton like Pride of Lions, but what do you expect? It's like complaining that LeBron James is playing too much like LeBron James when he's on Team USA rather than the Cavs. These are top-notch musicians and JP is a top-notch songwriter. You can get worse than "sounding just like them."

Great CD, woulda been a hit back in the day

9/10

[Journey/Survivor]

BUT FOR THE BAND ISN'T IT BETTER TO SECURE A US DISTRIBUTION? DOESN'T IT MAKE SENSE TO ENSURE THAT?????????

REO, LOVERBOY, SKID ROW, QUIET RIOT, even JOURNEY, all bands in a similar boat as Survivor yet all of their latest albums were available at US retail outlets.

I think many of you hardcore Survivor fans overestimate the impact Survivor had. Even in their heyday Survivor never headlined an Arena show. All of those bands above did (except maybe Skidrow).

Honestly, I've always felt that most people UNDERESTIMATE the impact that Survivor has had.

Keep in mind that I'm a big fan of Loverboy. But I've never considered Loverboy to be an bigger than Survivor.
People tend to forget how many big hits Survivor have had over the years.

Eye Of The Tiger #1
Burning Heart #2
The Search Is Over #4
High On you #8
Is This Love #9
I Can't Hold Back #13
American Heartbeat #17
Poor Man's Son #33

Not even Journey ever had a song as HUGE as Eye Of The Tiger. And if it weren't for the unfortunate timing of having to go against that huge hit song for charity "That's What Friends Are For" with all of those famous singers, then Burning Heart would have been the #1 hit for a few weeks.

If Survivor had had a record company that would have promoted the band worth a damn, they would have been as huge as Journey.