www.frankiesullivan.com

[Slander]

Bring back Peterik and make Toby Hitchcock the new singer. The band would be an instant force. P

Sorry while I like POL, I have no desire to turn Survivor into Meat Loaf!

[DavidWT]

Bring back Peterik and make Toby Hitchcock the new singer. The band would be an instant force. P

Sorry while I like POL, I have no desire to turn Survivor into Meat Loaf!

True.
I think, though, Frankie might help reel in some of JP's theatrical ambitions. That's how it worked in the past. You could tell there were moments ("The Search Is Over", "Man Against The World", etc) when they were edging towards the theatrical, and I now SUSPECT that was JP's influence. But in the end, the albums still maintained their pop-rock status. Maybe that was Frankie's doing, I don't know. Whatever it was, they obviously worked well together, and I think Toby's voice would work well with whatever Frankie and JP could come up with. (I mean, the song "Turn To Me" from POL sounds very much to me like something that could have been done back in the Bickler days of Survivor.)

[Journey/Survivor]

Bring back Peterik and make Toby Hitchcock the new singer. The band would be an instant force. P

Sorry while I like POL, I have no desire to turn Survivor into Meat Loaf!

True.
I think, though, Frankie might help reel in some of JP's theatrical ambitions. That's how it worked in the past. You could tell there were moments ("The Search Is Over", "Man Against The World", etc) when they were edging towards the theatrical, and I now SUSPECT that was JP's influence. But in the end, the albums still maintained their pop-rock status. Maybe that was Frankie's doing, I don't know. Whatever it was, they obviously worked well together, and I think Toby's voice would work well with whatever Frankie and JP could come up with. (I mean, the song "Turn To Me" from POL sounds very much to me like something that could have been done back in the Bickler days of Survivor.)

Back around the middle of 1986, shortly before When Seconds Count was released, I heard an interview on the radio with Peterik where he said that Sullivan would help him to toughen up his songs and make them Rock more than they might have without Sullivan's influence.
That's part of why I'm surprised that Sullivan didn't make "Reach" a harder Rocking album. I was very disappointed with how light so much of that album is.

[Saint John]

Bring back Peterik and make Toby Hitchcock the new singer. The band would be an instant force. P

Sorry while I like POL, I have no desire to turn Survivor into Meat Loaf!

True.
I think, though, Frankie might help reel in some of JP's theatrical ambitions. That's how it worked in the past. You could tell there were moments ("The Search Is Over", "Man Against The World", etc) when they were edging towards the theatrical, and I now SUSPECT that was JP's influence. But in the end, the albums still maintained their pop-rock status. Maybe that was Frankie's doing, I don't know. Whatever it was, they obviously worked well together, and I think Toby's voice would work well with whatever Frankie and JP could come up with. (I mean, the song "Turn To Me" from POL sounds very much to me like something that could have been done back in the Bickler days of Survivor.)

Back around the middle of 1986, shortly before When Seconds Count was released, I heard an interview on the radio with Peterik where he said that Sullivan would help him to toughen up his songs and make them Rock more than they might have without Sullivan's influence.
That's part of why I'm surprised that Sullivan didn't make "Reach" a harder Rocking album. I was very disappointed with how light so much of that album is.

Sometimes you need both of those opposing forces to make it work. Chemistry.

[Saint John]

Bring back Peterik and make Toby Hitchcock the new singer. The band would be an instant force. P

Sorry while I like POL, I have no desire to turn Survivor into Meat Loaf!

As opposed to the ambitious tour schedule and album output they're blistering through right now, huh?

[Abitaman]

Sometimes you need both of those opposing forces to make it work. Chemistry.

A lot of good song writing teams don't always see eye to eye, Styx, Journey, REO....

[Slander]

Bring back Peterik and make Toby Hitchcock the new singer. The band would be an instant force. P

Sorry while I like POL, I have no desire to turn Survivor into Meat Loaf!

As opposed to the ambitious tour schedule and album output they're blistering through right now, huh?

Yeah JJ and JP are a touring force! Can the guy tour anywhere in the states besides the midwest?

[Eyeof]

Slander you keep acting as if "Survivor" and I do mean " ", has embarked on some world wide, 200 show massive tour...They played like two county fairs and the side street at Disney World one time...I mean did they play near you? Have they in five years? They have not near me....

And I agree with the others, a bad Survivor meatloaf album is better than what we are getting with McSurvivor...which is what? A couple of really bad boots and a guy that obviously does not fit the material? I mean maybe he does, but how would I know? That super duper new 'project' that coming out in a few weeks (laugh, laugh) will show us all!

[Slander]

Slander you keep acting as if "Survivor" and I do mean " ", has embarked on some world wide, 200 show massive tour...

Hi Eye, that is an exaggeration. I have been very critical of the bands lack of activity as well as the fact they write too many checks that aren't cashed with their fans! I just don't think FS is the anti-christ like many of you do. I just get sick and tired of the criticisms leveled at him, when JJ or JP aren't held to the same standards. On a different topic, please someone answer this question: Does JP tour anywhere in the US besides the Illinois? If not, why?

[Abitaman]

Slander you keep acting as if "Survivor" and I do mean " ", has embarked on some world wide, 200 show massive tour...

Hi Eye, that is an exaggeration. I have been very critical of the bands lack of activity as well as the fact they write too many checks that aren't cashed with their fans! I just don't think FS is the anti-christ like many of you do. I just get sick and tired of the criticisms leveled at him, when JJ or JP aren't held to the same standards. On a different topic, please someone answer this question: Does JP tour anywhere in the US besides the Illinois? If not, why?

I do hold JP and JJ to the same standards, but remember too, that they do not carry the Survivor name. Even without the "name" I know JJ has been out more than any of them. I have seen JP in public appearances.
FS is not the Anit-Christ, by no means. But he is the owner of the name Survivor so he needs to use it or give it up. Heck he even tried to sue the TV program Survivor a few years back over the use of the name...but he is unwilling to do anything with it.

[Slander]

FS is not the Anit-Christ, by no means. But he is the owner of the name Survivor so he needs to use it or give it up.

I don't know, I thought this was the USA. If you own something, it's yours and you can do what the hell you want with it. It's called freedom. By the way, what would JJ do with the Survivor name? Tour like the abomination with it like he did in the late 90's? What would JP do with the Survivor name? At last check he has used the name. They put a record out in 2006 and a last check they do put on shows every year. Hell they even have a couple of dates scheduled for next year.

[DavidWT]

I just noticed that Frankie has apparently deleted the posts on his blog. The latest one showing up now is the first one from Nov 4.

And there's another broken promise from Frankie-- About two weeks ago, he said he'd post a story about the history of the first Survivor album "next week." Well, "next week" has come and gone, and (SURPRISE!) nothing.
It's not a big deal in and of itself, but he does this sort of thing all the time. "New album coming out soon!!" Nothing. "We're going to release some previously unreleased tracks soon!!" Nothing. "I'm going to publish a book soon!" Nothing. Etc, etc, etc. He even had a poll on the old Survivormusic site, where he asked fans what they wanted, and nothing ever came of it.

I'm not sure why I still pay any attention to anything he says. As the saying goes, fool you once, shame on me, fool you twice, shame on you. Frankie's up to "fool you a hundred times," so I guess I'm the idiot.

[Eyeof]

FS is not the Anit-Christ, by no means. But he is the owner of the name Survivor so he needs to use it or give it up.

I don't know, I thought this was the USA. If you own something, it's yours and you can do what the hell you want with it. It's called freedom. By the way, what would JJ do with the Survivor name? Tour like the abomination with it like he did in the late 90's? What would JP do with the Survivor name? At last check he has used the name. They put a record out in 2006 and a last check they do put on shows every year. Hell they even have a couple of dates scheduled for next year.

It is the US of A, and that is why we can commentate on the matter as we wish...Frankie has the right to do what he does (nothing) and we have the right to criticize, praise or whatever....How is JJ's deal in the 90's any more of an abomination than McSurvivor?

[Abitaman]

FS is not the Anit-Christ, by no means. But he is the owner of the name Survivor so he needs to use it or give it up.

I don't know, I thought this was the USA. If you own something, it's yours and you can do what the hell you want with it. It's called freedom, .

Yeah he tried o do what he wanted to, and keep Hollywood from using the Survivor name (not song) on their show. Which has been around longer the name Survivor and it's meaning or the band Survivor. And he is not doing anything with so give up, and by that I mean sell it, franchise it to JJ and JP. That way he could still make money

[Abitaman]

FS is not the Anit-Christ, by no means. But he is the owner of the name Survivor so he needs to use it or give it up.

By the way, what would JJ do with the Survivor name? Tour like the abomination with it like he did in the late 90's? What would JP do with the Survivor name? At last check he has used the name. They put a record out in 2006 and a last check they do put on shows every year. Hell they even have a couple of dates scheduled for next year.

OK 2 days out what 365? I am impressed.
What would JJ do, Tour, make a new CD. Heck if JP joined him it would be Survivor, and JJ could play Eye and PMS and all the other songs before he was a member, and what could be said then?

Slander this is nothing personal against you, it is just my thoughts on the subject. IMO, I think FS needs to either crap or get off the pot. Use the Survivor name or let it go.

[MarcelJordan]

On the bright side...

I've just purchased Premonition from Rock Candy. Im very keen to read the 4000 word essay on the making of it, plus its remastered using the original tapes. Woo hoo!

Meanwhile, yes FS seems to have removed his latest blogs. Should be interesting what he will say next.

WRT, giving up the Survivor name, I don't think neither JP nor JJ want it. But it must be said, if they continue to play Survivor music we can say Survivor still needs to exist. FS holds the key and let's take things into perspective someone needs to keep the Survivor name as the music is still played. This is regardless the opinion whether we want a new album or whatever action we are expecting.

MJ

[Journey/Survivor]

On the bright side...

I've just purchased Premonition from Rock Candy. Im very keen to read the 4000 word essay on the making of it, plus its remastered using the original tapes. Woo hoo!

Meanwhile, yes FS seems to have removed his latest blogs. Should be interesting what he will say next.

WRT, giving up the Survivor name, I don't think neither JP nor JJ want it. But it must be said, if they continue to play Survivor music we can say Survivor still needs to exist. FS holds the key and let's take things into perspective someone needs to keep the Survivor name as the music is still played. This is regardless the opinion whether we want a new album or whatever action we are expecting.

MJ

Please let us know how the Premonition remaster sounds! Also let us know if there's anything of particular interest in the liner notes.

[MarcelJordan]

On the bright side...

I've just purchased Premonition from Rock Candy. Im very keen to read the 4000 word essay on the making of it, plus its remastered using the original tapes. Woo hoo!

Meanwhile, yes FS seems to have removed his latest blogs. Should be interesting what he will say next.

WRT, giving up the Survivor name, I don't think neither JP nor JJ want it. But it must be said, if they continue to play Survivor music we can say Survivor still needs to exist. FS holds the key and let's take things into perspective someone needs to keep the Survivor name as the music is still played. This is regardless the opinion whether we want a new album or whatever action we are expecting.

MJ

Please let us know how the Premonition remaster sounds! Also let us know if there's anything of particular interest in the liner notes.

You bet! First they better deliver it....hard earned money...

MJ

[Eyeof]

We have the power to make this the biggest thread in Survivor history!!!!

[Abitaman]

It was said that on FS blog, he removed is last entry. Do you think he stops by here? If so maybe he will see people do want new music from Survivor not a FS side project.

[DavidWT]

It was said that on FS blog, he removed is last entry. Do you think he stops by here? If so maybe he will see people do want new music from Survivor not a FS side project.

I don't think he likes this place much. I seem to remember him alluding to this site a few times in a negative way back in the days of the survivormusic.com forums. I don't know if he ever specifically said "MelodicRock.com", but I think we all knew what he was talking about when he referred to "the forum on that other site." Or maybe I just read too much into it and he was actually talking about something else entirely.

[Eyeof]

by that meaning the forum he can't "control."

[Joe Vana]

We have the power to make this the biggest thread in Survivor history!!!!

Yea!! The biggest thread is about FS alluding to "revealing all" about things, and then not doing it...and then pulling his original blog....

Excellent reason for the biggest thread.....

Is that really what this forum has become???

JV

[DavidWT]

Is that really what this forum has become???

Well, until there's some real news about Surivor (or POL or JJ, for that matter), I'm afraid this sort of thing is all we've got. Believe me, I'd much rather see a multi-page thread discussing the pros and cons of the new Survivor album.

[Andrew]

Is that really what this forum has become???

Not what the forum has become, it's what someone else has become...

[Abitaman]

We have the power to make this the biggest thread in Survivor history!!!!

Yea!! The biggest thread is about FS alluding to "revealing all" about things, and then not doing it...and then pulling his original blog....

Excellent reason for the biggest thread.....

Is that really what this forum has become???

JV

No no really, but we are talking about survivor. I wish it was talking about how good a new cd is, what we liked about it, who could have sung this better (you know thta would be brougt up, with all the singers the band has had). At least the band (FS) is being talked about, so he is not forgotten.
Sometimes people surrond thereselvies with yes men and such, or they lose their grip on what life is about. FS seems to be in htat area to me, IMO! Lord knows I could be wrong, normally I am. Just wish FS would get off his but and do something. He is becoming Survivor's on Steve Perry, by saying this year, this year, I'm in the studio, it will be out this year. Just like Perry it has been this year for many years.

[MarcelJordan]

Is that really what this forum has become???

Not what the forum has become, it's what someone else has become...

It does "seem" like it....sigh. Sorry Im getting tired...

MJ

[axecrew]

Is that really what this forum has become???

Not what the forum has become, it's what someone else has become...

Not truer words have been spoken.

[Journey/Survivor]

It was said that on FS blog, he removed is last entry. Do you think he stops by here? If so maybe he will see people do want new music from Survivor not a FS side project.

Well, I'd love for Sullivan to do a solo album. HOWEVER, only AFTER releasing a brand new Survivor album.

[Red13JoePa]

We have the power to make this the biggest thread in Survivor history!!!!

Yea!! The biggest thread is about FS alluding to "revealing all" about things, and then not doing it...and then pulling his original blog....

Excellent reason for the biggest thread.....

Is that really what this forum has become???

JV

Who started it

We just want to know what and who he is talking about for once.
Otherwise put the "project" out and the popcorn eating, elbowing, and pushing eachother into the bushes that you seem to be annoyed at may cease.