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Postby IngoK » Fri May 04, 2007 12:01 am

Ticket price for Bochum, Germany (august 23rd) is 27.90 Euro = ca. 38.00 US$ (incl. Tax)
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri May 04, 2007 1:05 am

Slander wrote: Hey Jamo, I'll take another 7 and 7, and hurry it up.


:lol: I love when the Sman rolls the Jamo bartending jokes out. :D
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Postby Slander » Fri May 04, 2007 1:25 am

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Slander the irony is that you bash the everloving dogshit out of Jimi while out of the other side of your keyboard saying that THAT'S what people here do to Frankie. And as for Jamo's singing being a problem? Hell, EVERY rock band should have a problem like that.[/quote]

You guys get so defensive where Jamo is concerned. It's predictable. Why isn't Jamo putting out a solo album? Why isn't he on a national tv show? Oh sorry, the Baywatch reruns I forgot. What is he doing? Why aren't you all wound up about that? I'd love to see a Jimi thread about his inactivity. Where is the anger at him? Why didn't he write more songs? Oh, I forgot he never wrote a hit for Survivor. By the way I don't consider Billy O. and Chris Grove session musicians. They are an important part of the band. The Survivor train is leaving the station you can either get on board or stay behind. If anyone wants to continue this 'I'M ALWAYS HERE.'
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri May 04, 2007 1:28 am

When Jamo starts PROMISING the world for his solo career and not delivering then I'll be outraged.

Agreed about the keys and bass, especially keys always a huge part of Survivor sound. Critical that Grovester carry on that tradition.
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Postby Lark » Fri May 04, 2007 1:28 am

Hell, bartenders make great money! I think the nightclub was a smart business decision on Jimi's part, he is such a social guy and what better way to supplement your retirement. You can't sing and play in a band forever.
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Postby Slander » Fri May 04, 2007 1:33 am

Lark wrote:Hell, bartenders make great money! I think the nightclub was a smart business decision on Jimi's part, he is such a social guy and what better way to supplement your retirement. You can't sing and play in a band forever.


Cheers to Jimi! Now about that solo album. Hmmmmmm.
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Postby Lark » Fri May 04, 2007 1:47 am

Slander, has Jimi promised a solo album that I am not aware of? If so, please direct me to the link. Does he dangle crap like .....tomorrow the band report returns.......Reach has a new home that will blow you away.............Again, not that I am aware of, he stays busy with RPM and Voices. He is good to his fans and always found time for them and on top of that he does alot for charities, you can't hate a guy like that. Hell, after Jimi QUIT the band, the record label didn't even bother to have a US release. If I am incorrect in my statements, I know that you will be the first to correct me and that is groovey. You get upset that we are holding FS to his WORD, and want us to hold Jimi to FS's WORD also, that doesn't make sense.
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Postby Slander » Fri May 04, 2007 1:48 am

Red13JoePa wrote:When Jamo starts PROMISING the world for his solo career and not delivering then I'll be outraged.

Agreed about the keys and bass, especially keys always a huge part of Survivor sound. Critical that Grovester carry on that tradition.


Now wait a minute Red. So it's okay not to promise anything? You get a free pass. I blame Jamison as much as Frankie for the bands inactivity over the years. This is my whole point and you guys keep missing it. You all act like Jimi is helpless. He is complicit in this band's failure to reach a the level of a journey or foreigner.
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Postby Slander » Fri May 04, 2007 1:52 am

Lark wrote:Slander, has Jimi promised a solo album that I am not aware of? If so, please direct me to the link. Does he dangle crap like .....tomorrow the band report returns.......Reach has a new home that will blow you away.............Again, not that I am aware of, he stays busy with RPM and Voices. He is good to his fans and always found time for them and on top of that he does alot for charities, you can't hate a guy like that. Hell, after Jimi QUIT the band, the record label didn't even bother to have a US release. If I am incorrect in my statements, I know that you will be the first to correct me and that is groovey. You get upset that we are holding FS to his WORD, and want us to hold Jimi to FS's WORD also, that doesn't make sense.


You are right Lark. Jimi promises nothing! Wow what a guy. Let's not act like Jimi's busting his ass to please his fans. How's JIMIJAMISON.COM coming? I know his schedule is packed with tour dates too! I don't hate Jimi but let's not pretend he's friggin BONO. I'm sorry, I'd rather back an ambitious guy like Frankie who may dream and fail than someone like Jimi who doesn't promise anything.
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Postby Lark » Fri May 04, 2007 2:05 am

That's just it, Jimi promises nothing. It is pretty deflating for a fan of Survivor to hear year and year that they are going to release a new album, that Reach is going to have a new home that will blow us away, and on and on. The home for Reach definitely was not in the US!!!! It takes all credibility out of the FS. So you are comparing apples to oranges here. Promises versus No promises of great things, I prefer the latter. Shortly after the DWTS gig, FS goes on the website and says the band reporter will return tomorrow, stay tuned. IMO he did that because of the very short lived attention they got, he was going to hop on the band wagon and suck in all the attention. When the attention subsided so did the band reporter. Go figure.

What flavor is the FS Cool-Aid you're drinking.
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Postby Slander » Fri May 04, 2007 2:11 am

Lark wrote:What flavor is the FS Cool-Aid you're drinking.


I'm not drinking any Cool-Aid. You let emotions get in the way. If you go back over many of my posts, I have been critical of Frankie MANY times. I agree he should post more. I think people would like Frankie if they got to know him. He is a different cat. That's what I like about him. He's a deep thinker. So let me get this straight. Jimi gets a free pass because he promises nothing? That's weak. You Jamo fans have to accept the fact that he is just as much to blame for Survivor's inactivity as anyone else. Is Jimi really that helpless?
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Postby Lark » Fri May 04, 2007 2:13 am

7, please come join us, I am having way too much fun and want you to join.


I think I have really hit a nerve now!
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Postby Lark » Fri May 04, 2007 2:15 am

Okay, dude, since you are the reporter (i believe that is what your profile states) how is Jimi responsible for Survivor's inactivity? I am dying to hear this one.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri May 04, 2007 2:18 am

Christ, almighty isn't hasn't even been a YEAR since Jamo officially LEFT. If you want him held to the same standards as Frankie let's DO that. Less than 1 year back as just Jamo compared to 17 years of Survivor before Reach didn't come in the US.
It was 17 years of NOTHING in Survivor while Jimi put 2 records out.
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Postby Lark » Fri May 04, 2007 2:23 am

Slander, I am still waiting
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Postby Lark » Fri May 04, 2007 2:26 am

and waiting
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Postby Lark » Fri May 04, 2007 2:27 am

since Slander's profile says he is in the Pacific Northwest, it must be time for breakfast since he got up so early and started posting.
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Postby Lark » Fri May 04, 2007 2:28 am

while I am down here in the Deep South drinkin 7 and 7's
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri May 04, 2007 2:34 am

JJ is pouring already, Lark? :)
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Postby Lark » Fri May 04, 2007 2:36 am

Yes, he starts early, you know, when you make your living from a tip jar, you have to start early!
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Postby Lark » Fri May 04, 2007 2:44 am

Oh, by the way, the band report (I suppose that means Robin) has returned with a new post on Survivormusic.com
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Postby Lark » Fri May 04, 2007 2:45 am

5/2/07 - Council Bluffs & Peachtree shows

Whew!! finally I get round to what really matters and that is to say a hugh thanks to you all over the past few weeks.
From Counsil Bluffs @ The Whiskey Road Casino, it was rockin' we had an awesome time. We want to do it again please. Met some amazing people who all know how to “rock out” and enjoy themselves. Mary & Denise and Brenda as always, you guys are really the true spirit. Thanks for the pics guys and Mary for the amazing job you do to the myspace site.
Sorry it's taken me soooo long to say thank you.

Peachtree City:
Oh my God! I want to move there, it's sooo beautiful. Those Southern girls, WELL!!! break my heart why don't ya!!
The venue and organisers, and the extra pounds I put on with probably the best catering I have ever been happy to stuff it down with. Thank you all so very much.
Friday and Saturday night was just great times with soooo many beautiful girls. I LOVE THE SOUTH.

See you all again soooon
Robin


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Postby Slander » Fri May 04, 2007 2:53 am

Lark wrote:Okay, dude, since you are the reporter (i believe that is what your profile states) how is Jimi responsible for Survivor's inactivity? I am dying to hear this one.


Jimi was part of the band. Like I said why is he helpless. Everyone in the group is complicit. As far as Jamo's solo work many singerrs cut solo records while still part remaining part of a bad. You haven't touched a nerve with me at all. You guys are like moths drawn to the Jamo flame. It borders on abnormal.
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Postby Slander » Fri May 04, 2007 2:58 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Christ, almighty isn't hasn't even been a YEAR since Jamo officially LEFT. If you want him held to the same standards as Frankie let's DO that. Less than 1 year back as just Jamo compared to 17 years of Survivor before Reach didn't come in the US.
It was 17 years of NOTHING in Survivor while Jimi put 2 records out.


Red, you are better than this. Survivor has a ton of demos. We've all heard them. I could careless if they had a record deal in place. You tell me what record company would have signed Survivor in the early 90's and put out FMS? You know what the musical trends were back then. It was the era of Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, etc. Survivor did put out their greatest hits in 1993. Hungry Years and You Know Who You Are are a hell of a lot more memorable than anything Jamo put out in the same time period. Frankie produced albums for Eddie Money and Robin Mcauley. What friggin' album was Jamo part of? Don't give me this Whitney crap. Let's get real here. You folks don't have a leg to stand on here. I can't wait until the new Record. Frankie and Robin and the guys are going to make you eat ?.
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Postby Lark » Fri May 04, 2007 2:59 am

You still haven't answered the question regarding your previous statement about Jimi being partly responsible for Survivor's inactivity. How is he responsible?
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri May 04, 2007 3:05 am

Demos are not released songs. No one, including myself, who has the Fire Makes Steel demos, has them legally. What label would've released it in the '90s? I dunno, maybe ones like the labels who released Jamison's 2 albums in the same decade.

Why are you talking about unreleased Survivor demos, and worse, albums Frankie was involved in producing outside Survivor when when debating the issue of the sluggishness of Survivor from '89 on?
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Postby Slander » Fri May 04, 2007 3:06 am

Lark wrote:You still haven't answered the question regarding your previous statement about Jimi being partly responsible for Survivor's inactivity. How is he responsible?


Okay how is Frankie responsible? Everyone is responsible. Oh wait Jimi is just this helpless baby seal laying on the rocks of rock n' roll music. If Jamo was pissed off about at the inactivity why didn't he leave earlier. Like I said he was complicit. Listen if you want to follow Jimi do the bingo circuit at every senior center be my guest, I'd rather follow a group who has the talents of people who have put out best selling albums. Frankie with Survivor and Robin with MSG. Jimi needs to prove to me he can have a successful solo career before I give him the MESSIAH status that you all have bestowed on him.
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Postby Lark » Fri May 04, 2007 3:09 am

According to you Frankie is Survivor, so, he is responsible for the inactivity, he calls the shots.
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Postby Slander » Fri May 04, 2007 3:10 am

Red13JoePa wrote: I dunno, maybe ones like the labels who released Jamison's 2 albums in the same decade.


I respect Frankie for not prostituting his work. Here's where we have a major difference in philosophy. I don't agree with just signing with a label to sign. Ask Journey about that! If Jamison wants to put out an album on a crappy label that's his business. I will settle for Survivor's best of in 1993 but out on a major label.
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Postby Lark » Fri May 04, 2007 3:16 am

Listen if you want to follow Jimi do the bingo circuit at every senior center be my guest, I'd rather follow a group who has the talents of people who have put out best selling albums.



I wonder if they serve 7 and 7 at the senior citizen bingo halls? Cuz I know they don't at county fairs only funnel cakes and farris wheels!
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