Bickler, Jamison, Peterik: Could Sullivan Face Them?

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Re: Bickler, Jamison, Peterik: Could Sullivan Face Them?

Postby Red13JoePa » Sun May 04, 2008 12:57 am

Joe Vana wrote:Up to now Red I thought you were in the know...now I know that is not the case.....

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We have to wait and see, I rea1ize what you mean Joe Vana.
They're sti11 not p1aying a TON of shows but as Sman has brought up, they HAVE increased the bookings and they're at some decent-sized venues.

We NEED the promised new record, though, it wou1d go a 1ong way to further estab1ishing THIS 1ineup.
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Postby squirt1 » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:13 pm

In the 80's this band had the most success with Jimi on Vital Signs. Jimi and Peterik recently sang together . Bickler is $$$$$ with the Bud commercials. Those guys together would be a great show. Frankie will be playing at the local circus ! Who cares.
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Postby Slander » Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:54 am

squirt1 wrote:In the 80's this band had the most success with Jimi on Vital Signs. Jimi and Peterik recently sang together . Bickler is $$$$$ with the Bud commercials. Those guys together would be a great show. Frankie will be playing at the local circus ! Who cares.


Please let me know when JJ and JP play on National Television in front of 20 million plus people! Please. Squirt your comments are cliche. I love JP and JJ is a solid vocalist but I think you overstate things just a tad. Hey bud whatever you need to do to sleep at night. Keep something in mind: There would be no JJ without a little album called PREMONITION that paved the way for EOTT. Frankie Sullivan's handy work is all over both those discs. So get over it.
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Postby IngoK » Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:17 pm

Slander wrote:
squirt1 wrote:In the 80's this band had the most success with Jimi on Vital Signs. Jimi and Peterik recently sang together . Bickler is $$$$$ with the Bud commercials. Those guys together would be a great show. Frankie will be playing at the local circus ! Who cares.


Please let me know when JJ and JP play on National Television in front of 20 million plus people! Please. Squirt your comments are cliche. I love JP and JJ is a solid vocalist but I think you overstate things just a tad. Hey bud whatever you need to do to sleep at night. Keep something in mind: There would be no JJ without a little album called PREMONITION that paved the way for EOTT. Frankie Sullivan's handy work is all over both those discs. So get over it.


Please stop playing "new Sheriff in Town" !

You may not like those comments, but a lot of fans feel like this.
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Postby Slander » Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:27 am

IngoK wrote:
Slander wrote:
squirt1 wrote:In the 80's this band had the most success with Jimi on Vital Signs. Jimi and Peterik recently sang together . Bickler is $$$$$ with the Bud commercials. Those guys together would be a great show. Frankie will be playing at the local circus ! Who cares.


Please let me know when JJ and JP play on National Television in front of 20 million plus people! Please. Squirt your comments are cliche. I love JP and JJ is a solid vocalist but I think you overstate things just a tad. Hey bud whatever you need to do to sleep at night. Keep something in mind: There would be no JJ without a little album called PREMONITION that paved the way for EOTT. Frankie Sullivan's handy work is all over both those discs. So get over it.


Please stop playing "new Sheriff in Town" !

You may not like those comments, but a lot of fans feel like this.


Great. Wonderful. And I feel the way I do. I like all parties involved and see no reason to ruin the positive vibe by trashing the talented FS. I also think it's disingenious at best to claim that VS was responsible for Survivor's success. The path to their riches was laid well before hand thanks to FS, JP, MD, SE and DB not JJ.
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Postby axecrew » Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:50 am

Slander wrote:
squirt1 wrote:In the 80's this band had the most success with Jimi on Vital Signs. Jimi and Peterik recently sang together . Bickler is $$$$$ with the Bud commercials. Those guys together would be a great show. Frankie will be playing at the local circus ! Who cares.


Please let me know when JJ and JP play on National Television in front of 20 million plus people![/quote]

And this translated into exactly what?
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Postby Slander » Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:09 am

axecrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
squirt1 wrote:In the 80's this band had the most success with Jimi on Vital Signs. Jimi and Peterik recently sang together . Bickler is $$$$$ with the Bud commercials. Those guys together would be a great show. Frankie will be playing at the local circus ! Who cares.


Please let me know when JJ and JP play on National Television in front of 20 million plus people![/quote]

And this translated into exactly what?


That's not the question sir. Nice destraction axe. You guys hate the fact that FS and the guys played on national tv. I am going to point out that fact every time someone make some asinine remark about SURVIVOR THE BAND playing in front of small audiences. Gimme a break.
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Postby axecrew » Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:21 am

Slander wrote:
axecrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
squirt1 wrote:In the 80's this band had the most success with Jimi on Vital Signs. Jimi and Peterik recently sang together . Bickler is $$$$$ with the Bud commercials. Those guys together would be a great show. Frankie will be playing at the local circus ! Who cares.


Please let me know when JJ and JP play on National Television in front of 20 million plus people![/quote]

And this translated into exactly what?


That's not the question sir. Nice destraction axe. You guys hate the fact that FS and the guys played on national tv. I am going to point out that fact every time someone make some asinine remark about SURVIVOR THE BAND playing in front of small audiences. Gimme a break.


First of all you f'n jackoff,you don't know me, so don't you dare tell me what I do or don't f'n hate.
As for your usual diatrabe of bullshit......Big f'n deal they played on tv on dwts just like all the other tired washed-up acts.
I'll ask it again......Exactly what did that do for them? Except introduce a lead singer who sounds nothing like either one of the past guys and really doesn't do the classics any justice at all. In fact I would venture to say that most people wouldn't know the difference between him and a current group of american idols contestants.
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Postby bulldog » Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:48 am

:D Jimi's "I'm Always Here" was played for billions and billions of people over a 11 year span and re-runs.. That to me is success ! He reached a higher level than any member of Survivor and hit on the most popular show on tv. To say that without Premonition , Eye Of The Tiger or Caught In The Game there would be no Jimi Jamison is ridiculous ! They totally changed their style in music . They didn't change the sound for Jimi Jamison they changed their sound for money .

They "never" hit again after When Seconds Count as a group of the original group and sound of Sullivan , Droubay , Peterik , Jamison and Ellis ! Is this Love was the last hurrah !

Jamison & Peterik will not disappoint us and we will be blown away by it..
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Postby Eyeof » Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:49 am

Yes, they played in front a 20 million people...and they showcased a leadsinger that sucks in front of all 20 million...As awful as they sounded, they would have been better off to have had 1 person watching or to have just stayed at home all together...

I sure can't wait to hear JJ and JP and DB...now that is something to look forward to...

By the way, any word of if McCauley has contacted Quite Riot about joining a band that he might now sound like sh#t in?
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Postby MarcelJordan » Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:55 am

I'll ask it again......Exactly what did that do for them? Except introduce a lead singer who sounds nothing like either one of the past guys and really doesn't do the classics any justice at all

I like his versions of Burning Heart, Take you on A Saturday, The Search is Over. Infact, he gives them a little twist that even the audience appreciated, in their shows.

Meanwhile no need for such explicatives, Axe. :evil:
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Postby survivorfan2005 » Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:54 pm

welcome to the new journey board..lol
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Postby MarcelJordan » Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:02 pm

survivorfan2005 wrote:welcome to the new journey board..lol


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Postby Slander » Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:00 pm

bulldog wrote::D Jimi's "I'm Always Here" was played for billions and billions of people over a 11 year span and re-runs.. That to me is success ! He reached a higher level than any member of Survivor and hit on the most popular show on tv. To say that without Premonition , Eye Of The Tiger or Caught In The Game there would be no Jimi Jamison is ridiculous ! They totally changed their style in music . They didn't change the sound for Jimi Jamison they changed their sound for money .

They "never" hit again after When Seconds Count as a group of the original group and sound of Sullivan , Droubay , Peterik , Jamison and Ellis ! Is this Love was the last hurrah !

Jamison & Peterik will not disappoint us and we will be blown away by it..


It's great to hear from Jimi's mother on the BB. What a warped view of history. Did JJ chart solo on billboard? No he sure didn't. No he didn't reach a higher a higher level than any other member than Survivor. Absolute garbage. Eye Of The Tiger is played at every sports venue on a nightly basis. Hell I can't even get Baywatch on cable. JJ was given a great opportunity to be in a band that was already in the spotlight because of the blood sweat and tears of its former members. JJ is a good vocalist and extremely fortunate to be in the right place at the right time. He good of been stuck in music purgatory with a band like Cobra making good awful videos like "Blood on Your Money." Perhaps all that spaghetti from that video has gone to your brain. JJ and JP will not blow me away with anything they do. I recognize both of their talents. Having said that if we are honest with ourselves nothing we have heard so far even comes close to matching the sound of EOTT or VS.
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Postby Slander » Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:03 pm

axecrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
axecrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
squirt1 wrote:In the 80's this band had the most success with Jimi on Vital Signs. Jimi and Peterik recently sang together . Bickler is $$$$$ with the Bud commercials. Those guys together would be a great show. Frankie will be playing at the local circus ! Who cares.


Please let me know when JJ and JP play on National Television in front of 20 million plus people![/quote]

And this translated into exactly what?


That's not the question sir. Nice destraction axe. You guys hate the fact that FS and the guys played on national tv. I am going to point out that fact every time someone make some asinine remark about SURVIVOR THE BAND playing in front of small audiences. Gimme a break.

...Big f'n deal they played on tv on dwts just like all the other tired washed-up acts.
I'll ask it again......Exactly what did that do for them? Except introduce a lead singer who sounds nothing like either one of the past guys and really doesn't do the classics any justice at all. In fact I would venture to say that most people wouldn't know the difference between him and a current group of american idols contestants.


Washed up acts like Def Leppard, Jonas Brothers and I could go on...You are a joke axe. Big acts play that show. Secondly the argument wasn't about how this translated into big things for the band it was in response to some ass clown remark made by someone about Survivor playing small venues. Hey seems to me I remember JJ playing a lounge or something in the last year. Let me know when JJ or JP plays Wembley. You guys act like these guys are the Stones are the Eagles.
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Postby axecrew » Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:09 am

Slander wrote:
axecrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
axecrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
squirt1 wrote:In the 80's this band had the most success with Jimi on Vital Signs. Jimi and Peterik recently sang together . Bickler is $$$$$ with the Bud commercials. Those guys together would be a great show. Frankie will be playing at the local circus ! Who cares.


Please let me know when JJ and JP play on National Television in front of 20 million plus people![/quote]

And this translated into exactly what?


That's not the question sir. Nice destraction axe. You guys hate the fact that FS and the guys played on national tv. I am going to point out that fact every time someone make some asinine remark about SURVIVOR THE BAND playing in front of small audiences. Gimme a break.

...Big f'n deal they played on tv on dwts just like all the other tired washed-up acts.
I'll ask it again......Exactly what did that do for them? Except introduce a lead singer who sounds nothing like either one of the past guys and really doesn't do the classics any justice at all. In fact I would venture to say that most people wouldn't know the difference between him and a current group of american idols contestants.


Washed up acts like Def Leppard, Jonas Brothers and I could go on...You are a joke axe. Big acts play that show. Secondly the argument wasn't about how this translated into big things for the band it was in response to some ass clown remark made by someone about Survivor playing small venues. Hey seems to me I remember JJ playing a lounge or something in the last year. Let me know when JJ or JP plays Wembley. You guys act like these guys are the Stones are the Eagles.


You're the one making a big deal about 1 lousy tv appearance. You continue, 2 years later, to bring it up as your weak defense as to the success of the current band. And for every Def Leppard how many Barry Manilow and Billy Ray Cyrus' have played the show? And you act like this current band is the Beatles and that Frankie Sullivan is Jimi Hendricks and changed the scope of guitar playing for generations to come.
As for me being a joke, I happen to be in this business and will put my experience and knowledge up against yours any day.
The real joke is that you continue to hang on to the illusion that this incarnation of the band is relevant. This band's best days are so far behind them,that they are even able to be found with a GPS.
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Postby Slander » Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:46 am

axecrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
axecrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
axecrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
squirt1 wrote:In the 80's this band had the most success with Jimi on Vital Signs. Jimi and Peterik recently sang together . Bickler is $$$$$ with the Bud commercials. Those guys together would be a great show. Frankie will be playing at the local circus ! Who cares.


Please let me know when JJ and JP play on National Television in front of 20 million plus people![/quote]

And this translated into exactly what?


That's not the question sir. Nice destraction axe. You guys hate the fact that FS and the guys played on national tv. I am going to point out that fact every time someone make some asinine remark about SURVIVOR THE BAND playing in front of small audiences. Gimme a break.

...Big f'n deal they played on tv on dwts just like all the other tired washed-up acts.
I'll ask it again......Exactly what did that do for them? Except introduce a lead singer who sounds nothing like either one of the past guys and really doesn't do the classics any justice at all. In fact I would venture to say that most people wouldn't know the difference between him and a current group of american idols contestants.


Washed up acts like Def Leppard, Jonas Brothers and I could go on...You are a joke axe. Big acts play that show. Secondly the argument wasn't about how this translated into big things for the band it was in response to some ass clown remark made by someone about Survivor playing small venues. Hey seems to me I remember JJ playing a lounge or something in the last year. Let me know when JJ or JP plays Wembley. You guys act like these guys are the Stones are the Eagles.


You're the one making a big deal about 1 lousy tv appearance. You continue, 2 years later, to bring it up as your weak defense as to the success of the current band. And for every Def Leppard how many Barry Manilow and Billy Ray Cyrus' have played the show? And you act like this current band is the Beatles and that Frankie Sullivan is Jimi Hendricks and changed the scope of guitar playing for generations to come.
As for me being a joke, I happen to be in this business and will put my experience and knowledge up against yours any day.
The real joke is that you continue to hang on to the illusion that this incarnation of the band is relevant. This band's best days are so far behind them,that they are even able to be found with a GPS.


What utter bs. I never claimed the band was huge. I claimed that some idiots on the website act as if JP and JJ will be playing Wembley. It was in refutation to a commet made that Survivor was playing some circus. Damn get your facts straight axe before you pop off. It's called debate. Someone makes a point and then you counter it with direct evidence. Which I did. Quit with the red herrings axe. Plain and simple. Like I said let me know when JJ and JP play in front of 20 million people in prime time. Please. Until then let's stop the idiocy.
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Postby Eyeof » Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:48 am

Now slander...don't you find it funny that you would make a comment about someone being JJ's mom, just because they like him?

I mean that would be okay, but darn....your head is so far up FS's a$$ that if the guy broke wind it might split your skull...
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Postby Slander » Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:56 am

Eyeof wrote:Now slander...don't you find it funny that you would make a comment about someone being JJ's mom, just because they like him?

I mean that would be okay, but darn....your head is so far up FS's a$$ that if the guy broke wind it might split your skull...



Really Eye? Damn if you go back and read over many of my posts I've been critical of FS repeatedly you guys just don't want to see it. Let me know when anyone of these JJ-lovers dares to criticize the great aor legend. Please point it out. At least I dare to have some objectivity on this board. I can't say that for a lot of people here.
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Postby axecrew » Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:23 am

Slander wrote:
axecrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
axecrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
axecrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
squirt1 wrote:In the 80's this band had the most success with Jimi on Vital Signs. Jimi and Peterik recently sang together . Bickler is $$$$$ with the Bud commercials. Those guys together would be a great show. Frankie will be playing at the local circus ! Who cares.


Please let me know when JJ and JP play on National Television in front of 20 million plus people![/quote]

And this translated into exactly what?


That's not the question sir. Nice destraction axe. You guys hate the fact that FS and the guys played on national tv. I am going to point out that fact every time someone make some asinine remark about SURVIVOR THE BAND playing in front of small audiences. Gimme a break.

...Big f'n deal they played on tv on dwts just like all the other tired washed-up acts.
I'll ask it again......Exactly what did that do for them? Except introduce a lead singer who sounds nothing like either one of the past guys and really doesn't do the classics any justice at all. In fact I would venture to say that most people wouldn't know the difference between him and a current group of american idols contestants.


Washed up acts like Def Leppard, Jonas Brothers and I could go on...You are a joke axe. Big acts play that show. Secondly the argument wasn't about how this translated into big things for the band it was in response to some ass clown remark made by someone about Survivor playing small venues. Hey seems to me I remember JJ playing a lounge or something in the last year. Let me know when JJ or JP plays Wembley. You guys act like these guys are the Stones are the Eagles.


You're the one making a big deal about 1 lousy tv appearance. You continue, 2 years later, to bring it up as your weak defense as to the success of the current band. And for every Def Leppard how many Barry Manilow and Billy Ray Cyrus' have played the show? And you act like this current band is the Beatles and that Frankie Sullivan is Jimi Hendricks and changed the scope of guitar playing for generations to come.
As for me being a joke, I happen to be in this business and will put my experience and knowledge up against yours any day.
The real joke is that you continue to hang on to the illusion that this incarnation of the band is relevant. This band's best days are so far behind them,that they are even able to be found with a GPS.


What utter bs. I never claimed the band was huge. I claimed that some idiots on the website act as if JP and JJ will be playing Wembley. It was in refutation to a commet made that Survivor was playing some circus. Damn get your facts straight axe before you pop off. It's called debate. Someone makes a point and then you counter it with direct evidence. Which I did. Quit with the red herrings axe. Plain and simple. Like I said let me know when JJ and JP play in front of 20 million people in prime time. Please. Until then let's stop the idiocy.


Ok assclown.....let's debate...Tell me what part of my post is "utter bs"
There you went again with the weakass comment about dancing with the dingbats.....Again... What did that do for them? NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they are still in the same spot they were before that. Playing a handful of dates and most of them being county fair type shows. Great money, but for the old nostalgia acts,which is exactly what they are. With or without Jamison. See there???? There's your objectivity that you claim I(we) don't have. Survivor is nothing more than a nostalgia act doing county fairs and the like,with and without Jimi Jamison. Can you admit that about your lover sullivan? If you never claimed the band was huge,why all the talk about Dancing with Dingbats and 20 million people and all that crap? Slander quote " They are doing more shows, they played in front of 20 million people on tv, frankie sullivan is the greatest guitar player since les paul invented his guitar,blah,blah,blah"........Congrats to them.....I'll look for them at the next Grammy awards. Going back to your 20 million comment......how many people do you think will watch the Jim Peterik and Friends(Or whatever they call it) on Soundstage this Fall? More than 20 million,less then 20 million? How many oh genius one? Better question yet.......Could the great francis sullivan put something like that together and have all of those people show up? Year after year after year? I bet not. And speaking of jj and wembley.....last I looked JJ was going to tour europe this year......how'd that survivor tour of europe go? Sold out crowds everywhere no doubt.
Remember this is a debate so please back up your answers with facts.
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Postby Slander » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:11 am

axecrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
axecrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
axecrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
axecrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
squirt1 wrote:In the 80's this band had the most success with Jimi on Vital Signs. Jimi and Peterik recently sang together . Bickler is $$$$$ with the Bud commercials. Those guys together would be a great show. Frankie will be playing at the local circus ! Who cares.


Please let me know when JJ and JP play on National Television in front of 20 million plus people![/quote]

And this translated into exactly what?


That's not the question sir. Nice destraction axe. You guys hate the fact that FS and the guys played on national tv. I am going to point out that fact every time someone make some asinine remark about SURVIVOR THE BAND playing in front of small audiences. Gimme a break.

...Big f'n deal they played on tv on dwts just like all the other tired washed-up acts.
I'll ask it again......Exactly what did that do for them? Except introduce a lead singer who sounds nothing like either one of the past guys and really doesn't do the classics any justice at all. In fact I would venture to say that most people wouldn't know the difference between him and a current group of american idols contestants.


Washed up acts like Def Leppard, Jonas Brothers and I could go on...You are a joke axe. Big acts play that show. Secondly the argument wasn't about how this translated into big things for the band it was in response to some ass clown remark made by someone about Survivor playing small venues. Hey seems to me I remember JJ playing a lounge or something in the last year. Let me know when JJ or JP plays Wembley. You guys act like these guys are the Stones are the Eagles.


You're the one making a big deal about 1 lousy tv appearance. You continue, 2 years later, to bring it up as your weak defense as to the success of the current band. And for every Def Leppard how many Barry Manilow and Billy Ray Cyrus' have played the show? And you act like this current band is the Beatles and that Frankie Sullivan is Jimi Hendricks and changed the scope of guitar playing for generations to come.
As for me being a joke, I happen to be in this business and will put my experience and knowledge up against yours any day.
The real joke is that you continue to hang on to the illusion that this incarnation of the band is relevant. This band's best days are so far behind them,that they are even able to be found with a GPS.


What utter bs. I never claimed the band was huge. I claimed that some idiots on the website act as if JP and JJ will be playing Wembley. It was in refutation to a commet made that Survivor was playing some circus. Damn get your facts straight axe before you pop off. It's called debate. Someone makes a point and then you counter it with direct evidence. Which I did. Quit with the red herrings axe. Plain and simple. Like I said let me know when JJ and JP play in front of 20 million people in prime time. Please. Until then let's stop the idiocy.


Ok assclown.....let's debate...Tell me what part of my post is "utter bs"
There you went again with the weakass comment about dancing with the dingbats.....Again... What did that do for them? NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they are still in the same spot they were before that. Playing a handful of dates and most of them being county fair type shows. Great money, but for the old nostalgia acts,which is exactly what they are. With or without Jamison. See there???? There's your objectivity that you claim I(we) don't have. Survivor is nothing more than a nostalgia act doing county fairs and the like,with and without Jimi Jamison. Can you admit that about your lover sullivan? If you never claimed the band was huge,why all the talk about Dancing with Dingbats and 20 million people and all that crap? Slander quote " They are doing more shows, they played in front of 20 million people on tv, frankie sullivan is the greatest guitar player since les paul invented his guitar,blah,blah,blah"........Congrats to them.....I'll look for them at the next Grammy awards. Going back to your 20 million comment......how many people do you think will watch the Jim Peterik and Friends(Or whatever they call it) on Soundstage this Fall? More than 20 million,less then 20 million? How many oh genius one? Better question yet.......Could the great francis sullivan put something like that together and have all of those people show up? Year after year after year? I bet not. And speaking of jj and wembley.....last I looked JJ was going to tour europe this year......how'd that survivor tour of europe go? Sold out crowds everywhere no doubt.
Remember this is a debate so please back up your answers with facts.


The question at hand axe was about Survivor playing in front of small venues. I asked the question when was the last time JJ and JP played in front of 20 million on national tv. The answer is never. That was the point of discussion. So axe you and your friends continue to dance around the camp fire naked or whatever it is you do and continue to worship your idol JJ. I wish he and JP the best. I'm looking forward to the new 'cd' no matter how much help JJ needs on vocals. Like I said I will continue to be the only one who seems to have any objectivity on this topic. Please axe let me know when you have been as critical of JJ or JP as I have been of FS repeatedly. The bottom line is you have no objectivity.
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Postby bulldog » Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:06 am

:D I am very happy for the fact Jimi is playing a lot of shows . Behind The Music tune on Frontiers Records myspace sounds close to his vocal on Vital Signs and that is a huge plus . He is almost 60 and he sounds awesome . His vocals are back to his potential and won't disappoint anyone.

Playing in front of 20 million people ? Was that bigger than the Starbucks commercial?
I am not too sure .. That commercial ran for quite a long time . Also back in the American Band Stand day how many people watched the same type performance?
I think that is a very interesting question. :wink:

I personally don't think Survivor had the following as say Foreigner .. They are awesome live and put a huge budget sound in a simple cheap free show. The shows these days seem all free and outdoor venues. Europe is the key .. Without this website we might never have been up on these guys anyway . The websites they represent really are lousy and show very little to inspire the fans to get back out there and into it .
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Postby Slander » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:10 pm

bulldog wrote::D I am very happy for the fact Jimi is playing a lot of shows . Behind The Music tune on Frontiers Records myspace sounds close to his vocal on Vital Signs and that is a huge plus . He is almost 60 and he sounds awesome . His vocals are back to his potential and won't disappoint anyone.

Playing in front of 20 million people ? Was that bigger than the Starbucks commercial?
I am not too sure .. That commercial ran for quite a long time . Also back in the American Band Stand day how many people watched the same type performance?
I think that is a very interesting question. :wink:

I personally don't think Survivor had the following as say Foreigner .. They are awesome live and put a huge budget sound in a simple cheap free show. The shows these days seem all free and outdoor venues. Europe is the key .. Without this website we might never have been up on these guys anyway . The websites they represent really are lousy and show very little to inspire the fans to get back out there and into it .


Survivor was never as big as Foreigner. They were not headliners. Bulldog you act as if JJ is playing friggin' Wembley our something. Let's get a little perspective here. It's nice JJ and JP are putting out a record. In fact I think it's great. Anything with some of the Survivor sound is better than nothing. Let's not get carried away thought. IT'S NOT SURVIVOR. No I disagree on the Starbucks ad. The gig on Dancing was bigger plain and simple. By the way let me know when American Bandstand had an audience of 20 million people at a given time.

The bottom line here is you guys beat your chest about JJ playing Europe big gigs etc. ZZZZZZZZZ snooze. I asked the question when as he played in front of 20 million plus people on live today? That was the question. This was directly after you popped off about FS and the boys playing in front of small crowds. By the way I have seen JJ a few times. I enjoy his shows but the crowds were not massive and some didn't know who the hell he was.
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Postby Slander » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:38 am

axecrew wrote: If you never claimed the band was huge,why all the talk about Dancing with Dingbats and 20 million people and all that crap? Slander quote " They are doing more shows, they played in front of 20 million people on tv, frankie sullivan is the greatest guitar player since les paul invented his guitar,blah,blah,blah"........Congrats to them.....I'll look for them at the next Grammy awards.


Actually it's hard to debate someone who has more personalitie's than Sybil. Do you just make it up as you go. How man voices are speaking to you axe? I never once said Frankie was the second coming of Less Paul. Some of the comments in regards to playing more shows were TRUE for last year. Not this year. I never said they would win a grammy again. Hell Journey's new album is amazing and they won't even get airplay. So knock it off axe. Don't quote out of context. You are in the biz and I respect that but I'm sorry but maybe you've got something in your eyes from the fog machine.
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Postby axecrew » Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:25 am

Why do you continue to avoid my questions slander? You first said this was between you and the other person and objected to me putting my 2 cents worth in,now you continue to take little subtle swipes at me, without addressing my questions. Why is that? Are they too hard for you? Or are they too uncomfortably close to the truth? You'll notice your usual allies aren't chiming in anymore, are they? I don't idolize Jimi, but I will defend him against little shots like you like to give. Like the little shot about looking forward to his new cd "no matter how much help he needs on vocals." What's that, if not a shot at him?

You said the question at hand is the 20 million people from dingbats and I ask how many people will watch the Soundstage show later this fall. Why don't you address that question,should be pretty simple to do?

I guarentee you go back and look and you'll find AB was HUGE back in the day, as it was the only way people could see their heros on TV,so I'd venture a guess that they played for at least that many, if not more.

Slander....Your act is getting very tired. Go back to some of your other post in other topics and reread the comments about sullivan's signature sound and how he's one of the best guitarist ever etc,etc. There are others who saw those post also.
I don't need sybil to debate you slander,I have only one personality and that's all I need to debate you. That is of course if you'd answer those uncomfortable questions that I posed. You know the ones you're trying so hard to ignore. Here I'll remind you and our audience at home what they were:

What did Dancing with the Dingbats do for them??
How many people do you think will watch the Soundstage this fall? More than 20 million,less than 20 million?
Could the great francis sullivan put something like that together and have all those people show up? Year after year after year?
How'd survivor's tour of europe go?
Remember to back up your statements with facts where applicable.
One last thing, Knock off the cute little personal swipes at me unless you want me to make it personal also.
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Postby Slander » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:18 am

axecrew wrote:Why do you continue to avoid my questions slander?

You said the question at hand is the 20 million people from dingbats and I ask how many people will watch the Soundstage show later this fall. Why don't you address that question,should be pretty simple to do?

What did Dancing with the Dingbats do for them??
How many people do you think will watch the Soundstage this fall? More than 20 million,less than 20 million?
Could the great francis sullivan put something like that together and have all those people show up? Year after year after year?
How'd survivor's tour of europe go?
Remember to back up your statements with facts where applicable.
One last thing, Knock off the cute little personal swipes at me unless you want me to make it personal also.


Once again axe. The question at hand was in response to some bs dig at FS and the band from an uninformed poster. The sad thing is you guys slam FS all the time and yet you go nuts when someone wants to defend him. Survivor didn't tour Europe. As far as what ABstand did in viewership. Propably pretty damn well considering there were few channels on the tv unlike today axe. Don't even get started on the tv subject your are out of your element. Lastly if you think Jamo's voice is what it was then you really are seeing a whole team of pyschiatrists. I do however like Jamo. I see him in concert and I will buy the new disc.

And YES....Survivor had a signature sound given to them by FS. Plain and simple. Get the hell over it. It's all over both Preomonition, EOTT, and CITG. Your rage clouds your judgement and objectivity. It's really sad.
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Postby Slander » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:21 am

MarcelJordan wrote:I'll ask it again......Exactly what did that do for them? Except introduce a lead singer who sounds nothing like either one of the past guys and really doesn't do the classics any justice at all

I like his versions of Burning Heart, Take you on A Saturday, The Search is Over. Infact, he gives them a little twist that even the audience appreciated, in their shows.

Meanwhile no need for such explicatives, Axe. :evil:


Actually Robin kicks butt in concert. By far the most energetic showman they have ever had. It's not even up for discussion. The guy is a ball of energy.
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Postby Eyeof » Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:31 am

Balls of energy and a voice that sounds like $hit to boot...
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Postby Slander » Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:33 am

Eyeof wrote:Balls of energy and a voice that sounds like $hit to boot...


Great JJ had no energy and sounded like shite to boot last time i saw him. It made me long for the old days.
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Postby axecrew » Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:52 am

Slander wrote:
Eyeof wrote:Balls of energy and a voice that sounds like $hit to boot...


Great JJ had no energy and sounded like shite to boot last time i saw him. It made me long for the old days.


And when was this? When did you last see him? I saw him in Febuary and he was great,hit every note with no little tricks. I should know as I sat by the board and was looking for the hints of little tricks,there were none, it was live.....no memorex.
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