www.frankiesullivan.com

[survivorfan2005]

lol, you know its pretty messed up if andrew doesnt know what the hell is going on.. wow..

[MarcelJordan]

Neither JP or JJ are aware of this rant, nor who it is aimed at or any other insight as to what he's talking about.

Sure puzzling if these two don't know what's going on. But looks they have not read it. Right?

MJ

[Joe Vana]

Neither JP or JJ are aware of this rant, nor who it is aimed at or any other insight as to what he's talking about.

Sure puzzling if these two don't know what's going on. But looks they have not read it. Right?

MJ

I am going to keep quiet and let this unfold as FS would want it to.....but JP left in 96' to do his own thing, to blaze his own path...I will let you all connect the dots....

This is gonna get ugly....I only can hope that FS decides it is best to say nothing and let history write itself as he always told me too...

JV

[Destiny]

..if he want to do it that way FS should not post those things. The fans hungy for everything at this time with big promises...I hope he let something follow his big time words!Soon....

[Andrew]

Neither JP or JJ are aware of this rant, nor who it is aimed at or any other insight as to what he's talking about.

Sure puzzling if these two don't know what's going on. But looks they have not read it. Right?

MJ

They have read it - I sent it to them! Neither has any idea and both asked who it was aimed at.

[Destiny]

...could it really be a third one or is Frankie seeing ghosts ?

[Andrew]

...could it really be a third one or is Frankie seeing ghosts ?

I'm getting the story...we'll have to see....hopefully there will be no more posts like that. Serves no positive purpose whatsoever.

[Destiny]

...I agree...if FS wants to answer on something he should do it with new music....

[MarcelJordan]

Neither JP or JJ are aware of this rant, nor who it is aimed at or any other insight as to what he's talking about.

Sure puzzling if these two don't know what's going on. But looks they have not read it. Right?

MJ

They have read it - I sent it to them! Neither has any idea and both asked who it was aimed at.

Ah ok then. Tks. I think they've probably wouldn't have even bothered to visit his site if you didn't send it.

MJ

[axecrew]

This must be that positive, no negative sullivan we've all heard about.

[Red13JoePa]

These latest temper tears have to be aimed at Peterik for having the audacity to be involved in the 2 new reissues.
Either Peterik or Jamison.

[Slander]

These latest temper tears have to be aimed at Peterik for having the audacity to be involved in the 2 new reissues.
Either Peterik or Jamison.

That's what I think. I have just a general question: Would JP have had to ask permission to speak on behalf of Survivor in regards to a re-issue? What are the legalities. By the way, I'm just asking a question here, not looking to start world war III.

[DavidWT]

I'm a newbie here, but I've read a lot of Frankie's posts back when survivormusic was still an active site, and I find it's often very difficult to get any significant meaning out of most of what he says. He usually makes general statements like, "Now the truth will come out", "All the lies will be revealed," etc, and yet never elaborates on anything. When somebody would ask him for clarification on what he was talking about, he'd follow it up with another vague comment like, "It's all about the music and moving forward, not looking into the past or dealing with negative energy" (not an exact quote, but that's the gist of what he would say.)
If he wants privacy, that's fine and understandable. But then why bother posting anything at all?
And if he wants the "truth to come out," as he always says, why be so vague and secretive about everything?

[Joe Vana]

These latest temper tears have to be aimed at Peterik for having the audacity to be involved in the 2 new reissues.
Either Peterik or Jamison.

That's what I think. I have just a general question: Would JP have had to ask permission to speak on behalf of Survivor in regards to a re-issue? What are the legalities. By the way, I'm just asking a question here, not looking to start world war III.

I am sure if JP represented himself AS Survivor that would be a problem, but just to speak about his old band, the writing process ect I would think is cool...

Look....JP left, FS has the name, JJ left, DB is gone...It is just Marc and FS left...and that is Survivor right now as we know it...they still play live, they still do shows....they released an album 3 years ago...so Survivor still is going along...

I just don't know what shooting arrows would serve right now....BUT, I respect all the guys and what they ALL contributed to the legacy....

But at this moment Survivor truly is Frankies baby, and he can do with it whatever he chooses....wheather you guys agree with what he does or not....

I do not know of Frankie as a "itchy trigger finger" kind of guy....he really thinks things through and does not usually strike unless he needs to....so I am assuming this stuff has a deeper context than what we are aware of....

In the end the TRUTH always prevails....the rest is just bull^&%$

Have a GREAT Thanksgiving you guys....I hope all this blows over and everbody has a smooth, happy Holiday Season as well!!!!!

Tonefully,

JV

[Abitaman]

The last time I saw Survivor I liked it up till the guitar solo, that seemed to last 30 minutes. I have not gone to see them since, but would go see the other members. I think FS takes his self way to serious. He is not the rock legend that he thinks he is, IMO. I could be wrong on this, and I usually am. But seeing the man in concert, hearing some interviews, this is what I believe. I do not now him personally. He is a good player, at best, but I think, IMO, that the hold up on the new survivor cd is material, or lack of good material. Both singers before really didn't seem to right a lot of the songss for the band. It was all JP and FS. I have a lot of cds with JP written songs, and they are good. JP can write, play guitar, keys, bass, etc..and has a decent singing voice. FS, at best is a good guitar player, I don't care to hear him sing. He, IMO has not proved to me that he is a good writter, since their is lack of material since the Survivor we knew and loved is gone. This new lineup, and FS as a solo artist, has done nothing in 3 plus years, to prove anything to anyone.
FS can have the band, as long as he does, there will be no band. I made a post or commented on a post a few weeks back that I am basically done with this band, and I am, but I still a fan of the first to lead singers and JP and his projects.

[Slander]

[quote="Abitaman"] It was all JP and FS. I have a lot of cds with JP written songs, and they are good. JP can write, play guitar, keys, bass, etc..and has a decent singing voice. FS, at best is a good guitar player. /quote]


Let's not get into who has a better singing voice JP or FS! My god. I think both would agree that's not their strong suit. You can call FS anything you want but to call his guitar playing "good at best" is silly and really takes some credibility from the points you made in your post.

[axecrew]

These latest temper tears have to be aimed at Peterik for having the audacity to be involved in the 2 new reissues.
Either Peterik or Jamison.

I think it has to do with that, but also more to the EGO that is sullivan that he wasn't apparently involved. And that they spoke to ONLY Jim about it and didn't include him. Well sorry sully.......they spoke to the man who formed the band and was the principal songwriter. This wasn't a Guitar Magazine article.

Mr positive....doesn't want any negativity etc live and let live....only wants to talk about the positive..until he can't control it...then lets sue or make vague bs statement to rile up the natives. Guy ought to go form a band with Axl Rose...since they have so much in common....they both spend more time creating litigation than they do music and spend more time telling us about it than they do making music.

[axecrew]

It was all JP and FS. I have a lot of cds with JP written songs, and they are good. JP can write, play guitar, keys, bass, etc..and has a decent singing voice. FS, at best is a good guitar player. /quote]


Let's not get into who has a better singing voice JP or FS! My god. I think both would agree that's not their strong suit. You can call FS anything you want but to call his guitar playing "good at best" is silly and really takes some credibility from the points you made in your post.

Come on slander....can we please not start about people's credibilty over an opinion on sullivan's guitar playing again? It's an opinion...he's entitled to it.

[Joe Vana]

These latest temper tears have to be aimed at Peterik for having the audacity to be involved in the 2 new reissues.
Either Peterik or Jamison.

I think it has to do with that, but also more to the EGO that is sullivan that he wasn't apparently involved. And that they spoke to ONLY Jim about it and didn't include him. Well sorry sully.......they spoke to the man who formed the band and was the principal songwriter. This wasn't a Guitar Magazine article.

Mr positive....doesn't want any negativity etc live and let live....only wants to talk about the positive..until he can't control it...then lets sue or make vague bs statement to rile up the natives. Guy ought to go form a band with Axl Rose...since they have so much in common....they both spend more time creating litigation than they do music and spend more time telling us about it than they do making music.

For the record they were BOTH the principal songwriters...

Have a Great Thanksgiving Axe!

[Red13JoePa]

These latest temper tears have to be aimed at Peterik for having the audacity to be involved in the 2 new reissues.
Either Peterik or Jamison.

That's what I think. I have just a general question: Would JP have had to ask permission to speak on behalf of Survivor in regards to a re-issue? What are the legalities. By the way, I'm just asking a question here, not looking to start world war III.

Good question, who knows?
Maybe it's like the Boston reissue situation a few years back where Tom Scholz went DEFCON 5 because he either had nothing to do with it or didn;t like the way they came out or both.

[Slander]

It was all JP and FS. I have a lot of cds with JP written songs, and they are good. JP can write, play guitar, keys, bass, etc..and has a decent singing voice. FS, at best is a good guitar player. /quote]


Let's not get into who has a better singing voice JP or FS! My god. I think both would agree that's not their strong suit. You can call FS anything you want but to call his guitar playing "good at best" is silly and really takes some credibility from the points you made in your post.

Come on slander....can we please not start about people's credibilty over an opinion on sullivan's guitar playing again? It's an opinion...he's entitled to it.

Let's not let our personal feelings about band members cloud our judgement when it comes to assessing their talents. By all accounts FS is very talented to say the least!

[Slander]

This new lineup, and FS as a solo artist, has done nothing in 3 plus years, to prove anything to anyone.

What the hell does FS, Robin, Marc have to prove you or anyone else?

[Abitaman]

It was all JP and FS. I have a lot of cds with JP written songs, and they are good. JP can write, play guitar, keys, bass, etc..and has a decent singing voice. FS, at best is a good guitar player. /quote]


Let's not get into who has a better singing voice JP or FS! My god. I think both would agree that's not their strong suit. You can call FS anything you want but to call his guitar playing "good at best" is silly and really takes some credibility from the points you made in your post.

Honestly I wasn't trying to start who is the better singer. Just my opinion. IMO FS is better guitar player than JP. Not a slam against FS. If you read also I commented that the two were a good writng team.

[bulldog]

I am glad Jimi Jamison is a success on his own now . Yeah it might be in Europe or another country but at least he is out there living it and making fans happy.

Survivor didn't have that staying power like Foreigner or Journey .

The new Survivor led only by Frankie should re-record the old hits with the new band and make it fresh again. Look at what Mick Jones did with Foreigner . Make a live cd and sell it on Napster or ITunes . Give a new song away free on your web site to promote yourself to new fans.

Frankie has to be getting royalties from the Rock Candy releases . He shoudl be glad that they keep re-making the old cds with new sound.

I can see the frustration . Jim Peterik is well known his writing with 38 Special and a success for his World Stage Shows , Jimi Jamison is out there working the songs and is getting good reviews , Dave Bickler made a fortune on radio commercials etc etc. Frankie needs to break out and make it on his name not just the Survivor banner .

It is also confusing as to why Paradise Artist uses Jimi Jamison & Dave Bickler's vocals to poromote new Survivor concerts .. It is weird to say the least ..

What do you all think ?

[Abitaman]

This new lineup, and FS as a solo artist, has done nothing in 3 plus years, to prove anything to anyone.

What the hell does FS, Robin, Marc have to prove you or anyone else?

A lot at this point. This is a new lineup that seems incapable of making a record. Journey had to prove something with both Augeri and AP (who I am not a fan of, who I do think has a good voice). Styx had to get a new CD out with Gowan. Van Halen with Hagar. AC/DC with Johnson. What if those bands had just keep touring and saying they were recording, but never released anything. What would they about Eddie Van Halen. I tell you what they would say, Looks like David held the band together. But we know that was wrong, 5150 ROCKED!!!!! They proved they could go on. Same with Styx (Clycorama was great), Journey (Arrival and Generations was on par with some of Journey's best), Back Black by AC/DC is a classic. And even though Revelations went platinum, I wasn't impressed with it.

So yes FS has a lot to prove with his new line up of the band. A whole lot. In this day and age and how old the band is, yes you could say that he has nothing to prove, and as a touring band I could agree with you. Today classic rock bands have a hard time of making a dent in this market, so a new Survivor CD would not really be the second coming, or third, fourth, and so on.....It would be for fans of the band. So in that way he has nothing to prove, he can live off of his and the other members laurels.
But to me he has to prove that he is capable of leading this band for something other than a road show.

[Abitaman]

It was all JP and FS. I have a lot of cds with JP written songs, and they are good. JP can write, play guitar, keys, bass, etc..and has a decent singing voice. FS, at best is a good guitar player. /quote]


Let's not get into who has a better singing voice JP or FS! My god. I think both would agree that's not their strong suit. You can call FS anything you want but to call his guitar playing "good at best" is silly and really takes some credibility from the points you made in your post.

Honestly I wasn't trying to start who is the better singer. Just my opinion. IMO FS is better guitar player than JP. Not a slam against FS. If you read also I commented that the two were a good writng team.

And also I am not trying to start an argument between you or me, it just a discussion, nothing more, to me anyway.

[Abitaman]

I am glad Jimi Jamison is a success on his own now . Yeah it might be in Europe or another country but at least he is out there living it and making fans happy.

Survivor didn't have that staying power like Foreigner or Journey .

The new Survivor led only by Frankie should re-record the old hits with the new band and make it fresh again. Look at what Mick Jones did with Foreigner . Make a live cd and sell it on Napster or ITunes . Give a new song away free on your web site to promote yourself to new fans.

Frankie has to be getting royalties from the Rock Candy releases . He shoudl be glad that they keep re-making the old cds with new sound.

I can see the frustration . Jim Peterik is well known his writing with 38 Special and a success for his World Stage Shows , Jimi Jamison is out there working the songs and is getting good reviews , Dave Bickler made a fortune on radio commercials etc etc. Frankie needs to break out and make it on his name not just the Survivor banner .

It is also confusing as to why Paradise Artist uses Jimi Jamison & Dave Bickler's vocals to poromote new Survivor concerts .. It is weird to say the least ..

What do you all think ?

I would be happy if they did a rerecord of the songs, with at least one new song.

[Abitaman]

But I do not think Frankie could record one song right now, new anyway. Do a rerecord would get him going maybe, recharge is battery.

[Slander]

I can see the frustration . Jim Peterik is well known his writing with 38 Special and a success for his World Stage Shows , Jimi Jamison is out there working the songs and is getting good reviews , Dave Bickler made a fortune on radio commercials etc etc. Frankie needs to break out and make it on his name not just the Survivor banner .
What do you all think ?

I don't think FS is frustrated at all. He is doing his thing. At last check, I think Survivor venues span the entire country. I don't think he cares about JJ or JP's regional success. I for one would like to see JP tour somewhere other than the Midwest. Would love to see him play live and bring his talents to the west coast. I'm not sure of JJ's solo appeal outside of Europe. Has he toured without the Survivor banner in the US? Love Dave's Bud Light ads, but we are still waiting on that long awaited solo record! I like what I have heard so far on his website.

[axecrew]

It was all JP and FS. I have a lot of cds with JP written songs, and they are good. JP can write, play guitar, keys, bass, etc..and has a decent singing voice. FS, at best is a good guitar player. /quote]


Let's not get into who has a better singing voice JP or FS! My god. I think both would agree that's not their strong suit. You can call FS anything you want but to call his guitar playing "good at best" is silly and really takes some credibility from the points you made in your post.

Come on slander....can we please not start about people's credibilty over an opinion on sullivan's guitar playing again? It's an opinion...he's entitled to it.

Let's not let our personal feelings about band members cloud our judgement when it comes to assessing their talents. By all accounts FS is very talented to say the least!

And once again I will say, sullivan is a very talented guitar player...just not the be all end all that he is for some.My opinion on this has never changed.