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Postby Slander » Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:29 pm

Andrew thank you for entering the discussion. The point I was making was that Frankie Sullivan has stayed committed to
keeping Survivor alive. 30 years plus and going. Many bands have come and gone. The legal battle between Jimi, Jim and Frank didn't help crank out the albums either. The sad thing is a lot of great music was lost in the process. While Frankie did not put out albums with Survivor, I think we can agree his work on Robin's solo effort and Eddie Money's very underrated Ready Eddie was excellent. I wish the same hard work and skill could have gone into a Survivor album in the 1990's.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:43 pm

NOW he acquiesces. It just took the Big Dog to make that happen.

Slander, what do you have against punctuation and grammar?
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Postby Andrew » Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:44 pm

Slander wrote:Andrew thank you for entering the discussion. The point I was making was that Frankie Sullivan has stayed committed to
keeping Survivor alive.

While Frankie did not put out albums with Survivor, I think we can agree his work on Robin's solo effort and Eddie Money's very underrated Ready Eddie was excellent. I wish the same hard work and skill could have gone into a Survivor album in the 1990's.



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Postby Slander » Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:51 pm

Wait a minute 7! I did not abandon my argument at all. I stated my case and offered support for my thesis. Why is it that you never offer any evidence to support your argumentation? Opinion is not evidence 7.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:48 pm

That's fine, JUST don't ever mention "Survivor" and the phrase "hardest working band" in conjunction and you'll make more sense.

I think Survivor is one of the BEST bands around but not the other part.
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Postby silvergirl66 » Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:57 am

Dang.....you guys have been busy, I had to grab a cup of coffee! :)
You know what 7?...I just skip through your posts cause I don't need your vibes anymore.....wahwahwah
Now one thing I will agree about the HIP thing, I'm not sure where FRankie got his outfit for the show but it was kinda weird. Admit it! LOL! But I still luv him! But you can't fault Robin, he always looks cool! He dresses better than Dave or Jimi ever did for a show and that's a fact. He's got a great bod, Dave was to skinny and Jimi is to fat (sorry gals, JJ doesn't take care of himself, it's true!). Robin dresses very well, like a rocker, very hip. This band does take care of themselves, I know FRankie runs and I think he's to skinny, Marc works out too. I"m not sure about the rest of the guys but they look good!
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Postby Slander » Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:59 am

JoPa I'll mention anything I want. I'm making the claim. I may be wrong. It's just my opinion. I do think Frankie has worked "hard" to keep Survivor alive. 30 years and still going my man. That is a testament to his dedication. They just played in front of 20 million people. I don't see other bands of this genre getting to play venues last night. What I will always refute are comments about the bands lack of production. As I said earlier in the post, there is no doubt a great album would have been put out if it had not been for the Frankie-Jimi battle in court. That didn't help. By the way for all you Jimi lovers, Jimi was part of that. It takes two. A lot of great music went to waste. There's plenty of blame to spread around. For now, let's live in the future. Good things are on the horizon for 2007. DWTS was just the start of things.
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Postby Dux » Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:00 am

7 Wishes wrote:The best thing about Frankie's 25-minute guitar "solo" on "Summer Nights" is that it lets you take a whizz, let your kid do #1 AND #2, buy a beer, get a pretzel and a coke, go to the water slide, play T-ball, go under the water sprinkler, and get back to the stage and still get to see Frankie self-indulge for five minutes.


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Postby Dux » Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:01 am

Stupid double-posting computer. :x
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Postby Slander » Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:02 am

Hey Dux what instrument does Jimi play? Did it ever occur do you that Frankie might need to play those solos so Jamo could rest his faltering voice that was so evident on Reach?
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Postby silvergirl66 » Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:05 am

Yeah, while Frankie's playing his solo, JJ was out back eating twinkie's.............j/k :) :wink:
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Postby Slander » Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:08 am

Yeah JJ is a fashion plate. I love those black therapeutic shoes!
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Postby Dux » Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:09 am

Slander wrote:Hey Dux what instrument does Jimi play? Did it ever occur do you that Frankie might need to play those solos so Jamo could rest his faltering voice that was so evident on Reach?


Holy crap, I ROTF'd over a funny quote.

Why must you try to make everything an argument with everyone? :roll:
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Postby Slander » Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:16 am

Why are you Jamo people so thinned skinned?
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Postby jrnyman28 » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:06 am

Slander wrote: solidify the bands reputation as one of the hardest working ......... groups of the genre.


Slander wrote:I do think Frankie has worked "hard" to keep Survivor alive. 30 years and still going my man. That is a testament to his dedication.


Slander, there is a HUGE difference between these two statements. One is about the band and how hard they have worked, the other is about Frankie and how hard he has worked. I think most can agree with you on the 2nd statement, but that first one is a tough pill to swallow.
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Postby Slander » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:12 am

I understand your point. Having said that, the band has religiously toured. Albeit not 5 shows a week. Frankie has consistently penned songs. You also can't deny that there was a lot of music that got lost because of the whole Frankie/Jamo thing. That is the tradgedy of it all. Had FMS been released, I doubt we would be having this discussion.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:23 am

Slander wrote:I understand your point. Having said that, the band has religiously toured. Had FMS been released, I doubt we would be having this discussion.


If their touring since '87 has been "religious" then Survivor would be what some Christians call "C&Es" as in "Christmas And Easter" people.

Had Fire Makes Steel been released then it would've been TWO albums in 18 years.


Sounds workaholic-like to me, don't wear yourself out, fellas. :P
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:25 am

Slander wrote: As I said earlier in the post, there is no doubt a great album would have been put out if it had not been for the Frankie-Jimi battle in court. That didn't help. By the way for all you Jimi lovers, Jimi was part of that. It takes two.


Yes. Yes there IS doubt anything would've been released. Ongoing litigation initiated by Frankie didn't stop Jamison from releasing an album, so what's Survivor's excuse?
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Postby 7 Wishes » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:27 am

Kevin Sullivan - Fire Makes Steel would have been released IF THEY COULD HAVE GOTTEN A LABEL. They did not. That had NOTHING to do with Jimi and Frankie fighting.

Slander Sullivan, I am 100% done with you. You just don't listen, and you can't accept anyone's opinion other than your own. unless they completely agree with you. So, what's the point? Maybe I'll see you at a show this summer (yes, I do plan on going), and we can catch up on Nietzsche or Quantum Physics during Frankie's solo.
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Postby Slander » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:27 am

Yeah JOPA Jimi has been a machine when it comes to releasing solo material. I stand corrected.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:29 am

Slander wrote:Yeah JOPA Jimi has been a machine when it comes to releasing solo material. I stand corrected.


Who here said Jimi the solo artist has been "one of the hardest-working" acts in the business?
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Postby Slander » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:30 am

Frankie said it many times. He and the band were not going to release on album for the sake of releasing on album. That's just stupid. I'll take quality over quantity any day.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:32 am

Slander, JoePa and I are going to give you the most massive wedgie at the BaconFest in Decatur, Iowa, for that July 17th show.

"But you can't faulter Robin."

Silvergirl 1936, please help me understand this statement.
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Postby silvergirl66 » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:33 am

I know Marc works very hard.....he's a drummer, he has to make money. He doesn't get royalties from the songs. He did some gigs with other artists, even a project with Steph (Club Med). He's a very hard worker. I think Frankie's excuse was it wasn't the right time, that the radio stations wouldn't play their music, music was so different in the 90's (I hated it! I became a country fan LOL!) anyway.....I always complained, who cares.....make a cd, sell it to your fans, they will buy it, sell it at your concerts, put it on your website and sell it. Look at what a big hit the Demos was and it was a bootleg. Can you imagine it with the songs remastered? I'd buy it in a American Heartbeat!
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Postby silvergirl66 » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:40 am

sorry 7, did you say something?
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Postby Slander » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:44 am

7 and JOPA you still don't give credit where credit is due. You don't even acknowledge that Frankie has kept this thing going. He has worked hard and so has the band. Damn get over it. It's hilarious. I payed the band a compliment and you guys act like it's some crime. It's rediculous. We should be celebrating the bands great exposure from Tuesday night. Then again you Jamo fanatics will never be satisfied with anything that Frankie and the band accomplish. I think all of this anger directed at FS is silly. It just kills all of you to pay the band a copliment even when they play in front of 20 million people. I wish Jamo were there but he wasn't. That was his choice.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:57 am

Slander, you not only don't listen, but you don't read, and you don't comprehend.

You and SilverhairedGirl1926 would make a good couple, although I'd bet she's quite a bit taller than you are. Are you certain you weren't the bassist for Blue Oyster Cult?
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:58 am

Slander wrote:7 and JOPA you still don't give credit where credit is due. You don't even acknowledge that Frankie has kept this thing going. He has worked hard and so has the band. Damn get over it. It's hilarious. I payed the band a compliment and you guys act like it's some crime. It's rediculous. We should be celebrating the bands great exposure from Tuesday night. Then again you Jamo fanatics will never be satisfied with anything that Frankie and the band accomplish. I think all of this anger directed at FS is silly. It just kills all of you to pay the band a copliment even when they play in front of 20 million people. I wish Jamo were there but he wasn't. That was his choice.


I have too said Frankie's kept Survivor going.
Albeit on a respirator and IV food tube.

You have a paranoia about Frankie hate here, but I often go many posts between laments of how non-produictive the band's been since '88. And those post often contain my highest praise for stuff Frankie HAS done. Most others do the same.
You, on the other hand, can hardly make a single post without mentioning Jamison or "you Jimi lovers" or "you Jamo people" in a negative light.
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Postby Slander » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:21 am

I have too said Frankie's kept Survivor going.
Albeit on a respirator and IV food tube.
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Postby Slander » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:22 am

You had to get a dig in, didn't you JOPA. The band is not on a feeding tube. They just played on a TOP TEN tv show. What reality are you and 7 living in?
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