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by **Red13JoePa** » Fri May 04, 2007 3:17 am

Ok wait.
Straighten this out for us here, SMan. 2 posts up you ask the question "What friggin album was Jamo a part of" between THTS and Reach, while gloating about workaholic Sully's staggering output of 2 new songs, demos we all had to steal or buy illegally and doing some producing work for other artists.

We gave you 2 full Jimi Jamison solo albums and now instead of admitting incorrectness, that he put out more than Survivor, you spin it that that was because he was pimping them?

Putting out albums is pimping?

by **Slander** » Fri May 04, 2007 3:18 am

Lark wrote:According to you Frankie is Survivor, so, he is responsible for the inactivity, he calls the shots.

I never made the claim that Frankie is Survivor. I've said exactly the opposite since I've been posting here. Survivor is more than just one person. You guys make it sound like Frankie has no part in Survivor's signature sound. By the way a sound that was around while Jamo was putting out gems like this:http://youtube.com/watch?v=SYlNzZsDRUU. My vote for worst video of all time.

by **Lark** » Fri May 04, 2007 3:21 am

make mine a double

by **Lark** » Fri May 04, 2007 3:22 am

hold the ice and one of the 7s

by **Slander** » Fri May 04, 2007 3:23 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Ok wait.
Straighten this out for us here, SMan. 2 posts up you ask the question "What friggin album was Jamo a part of" between THTS and Reach, while gloating about workaholic Sully's staggering output of 2 new songs, demos we all had to steal or buy illegally and doing some producing work for other artists.

We gave you 2 full Jimi Jamison solo albums and now instead of admitting incorrectness, that he put out more than Survivor, you spin it that that was because he was pimping them?

Putting out albums is pimping?

Red maybe you like shopping at K-MART but I prefer Nordstrom. Think about it.

by **Lark** » Fri May 04, 2007 3:23 am

Slander, in your opinion, just who is Survivor?

by **Lark** » Fri May 04, 2007 3:28 am

Red maybe you like shopping at K-MART but I prefer Nordstrom. Think about it.

Either store, KMart or Nordstrom YOU CAN'T PURCHASE REACH BECAUSE IT WAS NOT RELEASED IN THE US. I am still waiting on the European tour to coincide with the release of Reach. And Damn it! I missed the North American tour that they were straight off of the tour bus and on their way to the ABC studios for DWTS.

by **Slander** » Fri May 04, 2007 3:28 am

Lark wrote:Slander, in your opinion, just who is Survivor?

Survivor is everyone in the group. It's a sound. One individual isn't Survivor. I miss Peterik. That's who I miss terribly. I miss the keyboards that went so well with Frankie's guitar. It was magic. Just don't have Jim sing! LOL. I saw Jamo last August. Jamo was fine but the band was awful. Jamo can be the voice of Survivor all he wants when he tours but it ain't Survivor.

by **Lark** » Fri May 04, 2007 3:30 am

At last, we agree on one thing, I am not real happy with the keyboard player they have now.

by **Lark** » Fri May 04, 2007 3:31 am

Just isn't like the old Survivor that I grew up listening too.

by **Slander** » Fri May 04, 2007 3:33 am

Lark wrote:Red maybe you like shopping at K-MART but I prefer Nordstrom. Think about it.

Either store, KMart or Nordstrom YOU CAN'T PURCHASE REACH BECAUSE IT WAS NOT RELEASED IN THE US. I am still waiting on the European tour to coincide with the release of Reach. And Damn it! I missed the North American tour that they were straight off of the tour bus and on their way to the ABC studios for DWTS.

I contend the band is busier now than it has been in years. The band is doing more shows than they have in a long long timel. I know you folks just can't accept it. It drives you nuts. Sorry Jamo isn't a part of it. I know what Frankie means by the negative vibe. He mentioned that about Dunaway too in an interview. Negative energy isn't good. It serves no one. That's why I'm adamant about getting behind the group. Why isn't any of you have anything good to say about Robin. What a terrific guy.

by **Lark** » Fri May 04, 2007 3:39 am

Dunaway is a great guy, you would be hard pressed to find a better guy. He has been around the world and back with many top rated bands, he probably saw thru the FS BS early on.

by **Slander** » Fri May 04, 2007 3:46 am

Lark wrote:Dunaway is a great guy, you would be hard pressed to find a better guy. He has been around the world and back with many top rated bands, he probably saw thru the FS BS early on.

LOL. Yeah I'm sure that's what it was. Frankie's BS! LOL. You guys can try to make FS out to be the anti-christ all you want but it just doesn't hold water. He's a good man and very passionate about music and the band. Dunaway, Jamison, etc. really have no commitment to Survivor. It's not their baby. They have no vested interest in the integrity of the sounds. If Jimi cared he would play the songs with musicians that make a mockery of Survivor classics.

by **Red13JoePa** » Fri May 04, 2007 3:56 am

Slander wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Ok wait.
Straighten this out for us here, SMan. 2 posts up you ask the question "What friggin album was Jamo a part of" between THTS and Reach, while gloating about workaholic Sully's staggering output of 2 new songs, demos we all had to steal or buy illegally and doing some producing work for other artists.

We gave you 2 full Jimi Jamison solo albums and now instead of admitting incorrectness, that he put out more than Survivor, you spin it that that was because he was pimping them?

Putting out albums is pimping?

Red maybe you like shopping at K-MART but I prefer Nordstrom. Think about it.

Again, JJ 2 albums, Survivor 2 songs.
And what was so negative about Barry Dunaway?

by **Slander** » Fri May 04, 2007 4:01 am

Red13JoePa wrote:[

Again, JJ 2 albums, Survivor 2 songs.
And what was so negative about Barry Dunaway?[/quote]

You and I just differ here. Survivor put out a done of songs. They didn't get a record deal. I agree with Frankie's decision to find the right home for his music. Who are you to tell him otherwise? Please don't tell me you are saying Jamo has been more successful than Survivor. That's going to get you laughed out of the room. As far as Dunaway, Frankie mentioned he brought a bad vibe to the band. It didn't work out. I appreciate Frankie wanting to keep things positive. Look at Robin. The guy is posting on the website. Did Dunaway?

by **Red13JoePa** » Fri May 04, 2007 4:06 am

I don't care who's more successful, I just want Survivor to put albums out.

And who cares when McCauley posts that "you people rocked, we had a blast, we'll back every year" hokus pokus or if Frankie posts a 6500 word essay about the guy in studio turning the dials and pushing the buttons is THE premier button pusher and knob turner in the biz?

Tell us some specific measurables of what you guys are doing as far as the album.

by **Lark** » Fri May 04, 2007 4:08 am

You have got to be kidding if you think that FS would ever let someone post on the website other than himself. Hell it shocked the hell out of me to see Robin post. Even MD posts on the bulletin board and not on the home page. He he allowed others to post, I am sure that Grove would be there posting away!

by **Lark** » Fri May 04, 2007 4:12 am

If Jimi cared he would play the songs with musicians that make a mockery of Survivor classics.

Are you referring to him playing Survivor songs with Voices and RPM?

by **Slander** » Fri May 04, 2007 4:13 am

Red13JoePa wrote:I don't care who's more successful, I just want Survivor to put albums out.

And who cares when McCauley posts that "you people rocked, we had a blast, we'll back every year" hokus pokus or if Frankie posts a 6500 word essay about the guy in studio turning the dials and pushing the buttons is THE premier button pusher and knob turner in the biz?

Tell us some specific measurables of what you guys are doing as far as the album.

Okay so now we are critical of Robin! What the hell did he do. There is more to being a success than putting out albums on crappy labels. Like I said I truly believe this band will put out an album that will make yourself and lark eat ?. I didn't realize you were a quantity over quality guy. Red what the **** is the point of putting out an album on a crappy label? Hell a band could even lose money. Is that the way you run your business?

by **Slander** » Fri May 04, 2007 4:14 am

Lark wrote:If Jimi cared he would play the songs with musicians that make a mockery of Survivor classics.

Are you referring to him playing Survivor songs with Voices and RPM?

VOR is great. Love the guys involved in that. I'm talking about the mockery that I payed 40 bucks to witness last August. I'm talking about Jamo having to look down on the ground to look at list to figure out what song was next. I'm talking about having a lead guitar player who couldn't play the licks that make the Survivor songs classics. If he can't get a band that can do these songs justice than the only thing he should be singing is 'I'M ALWAYS HERE.'

by **Lark** » Fri May 04, 2007 4:15 am

Please define "crappy label"

by **Lark** » Fri May 04, 2007 4:18 am

Crappy Label - a record label in which you can purchase albums that are released in the US.

Prostitue his work - instead of getting the payment up front before the dirty deed, you just make promises that you are going to do the dirty deed but pull out before release

by **Lark** » Fri May 04, 2007 4:18 am

oooops! I need to lay off the 7 and 7's

by **Slander** » Fri May 04, 2007 4:20 am

Lark I have no problem with FRONTIERS. It's a great genre label. Let's face it the label is stronger than it was years ago. I wish Survivor could go bigger. Much bigger. Hell I'm hoping they sign with Starbucks!

by **Slander** » Fri May 04, 2007 4:21 am

Lark wrote:Crappy Label - a record label in which you can purchase albums that are released in the US.

Prostitue his work - instead of getting the payment up front before the dirty deed, you just make promises that you are going to do the dirty deed but pull out before release

What the hell do you know about the business. Bands can lose a ton of money by signing with the wrong label. It costs money to put out albums.

by **Lark** » Fri May 04, 2007 4:26 am

IMO, since Frontier's did not release Reach in the US as promised, I believe the US date was to have been in May and then pushed back to June and then never mentioned again, they must have realized the low marketablilty of the album and band after Jimi QUIT. If you have another explanation for that, please tell me.

by **Slander** » Fri May 04, 2007 4:29 am

Lark wrote:IMO, since Frontier's did not release Reach in the US as promised, I believe the US date was to have been in May and then pushed back to June and then never mentioned again, they must have realized the low marketablilty of the album and band after Jimi QUIT. If you have another explanation for that, please tell me.

Yeah because we all know that Jimi was such a big draw! LOL. Yeah Frontiers must have realized that. I don't have an explanation because I don't work for Frontiers. Do you? LOL.

by **Slander** » Fri May 04, 2007 4:30 am

Lark wrote:IMO, since Frontier's did not release Reach in the US as promised, I believe the US date was to have been in May and then pushed back to June and then never mentioned again, they must have realized the low marketablilty of the album and band after Jimi QUIT. If you have another explanation for that, please tell me.

It couldn't be because Reach is a weak album and Jamo's voice is shot. It's Survivor's worst album. The best track has Frankie singing lead. What does that tell you?

by **Lark** » Fri May 04, 2007 4:33 am

I'm talking about the mockery that I payed 40 bucks to witness last August. I'm talking about Jamo having to look down on the ground to look at list to figure out what song was next.

The show that Jimi played last August was posted on the Survivormusic.com website as a Survivor appearance. Survivor cancelled the gig at almost the last minute in order to make it from one side of the country to Blue Ash, OH to do the Taste of Blue Ash, so give the Jimi group some credit because they probably had two seconds to get it together. BTW the last Survivor show I saw, one of the band was shouting out the next song coming up to MD. Go figure.

by **Lark** » Fri May 04, 2007 4:36 am

It couldn't be because Reach is a weak album and Jamo's voice is shot. It's Survivor's worst album. The best track has Frankie singing lead. What does that tell you?

FS singing Talkin' bout Love is by far, in my opinion, the worst song on the album. We are all entitled to our favorites and I respect yours but to me that is the cheesiest, bubble gum song.

MR

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