The Singles

by **survivorfan2005** » Wed May 03, 2006 1:27 pm

Well fans we're here again after 17 years... This is the official single thread. Just tell us what do you think will be a smash hit and do you think anyone of them will go as far as Eye of the Tiger?

by **jrnyman28** » Thu May 04, 2006 1:42 am

None will be 'the new EOTT'. That is not to say there are none that are as good, it is just not the right musical environment. But I really think Reach has all the makings of a hit. And I still believe the one-two punch of Fire Makes Steel and Reach using Rocky Balboa for promotions will be extremely effective for the band.

by **Red13JoePa** » Thu May 04, 2006 2:02 am

jrnyman28 wrote:None will be 'the new EOTT'. That is not to say there are none that are as good, it is just not the right musical environment. But I really think Reach has all the makings of a hit. And I still believe the one-two punch of Fire Makes Steel and Reach using Rocky Balboa for promotions will be extremely effective for the band.

Yep. Too effective, too smart. Makes too much sense.

Just like me and deano coming up with the Stallone thing for TPIYH and Deano actually getting it into Sly's hands and Sly's peeps contacting management.

I'd bet management just shrugged.

Why wouldn't management be all over getting Generations into a movie? Probably b/c the fans came up with it....dismissed as crackpotism.

by **Richard Epps** » Thu May 04, 2006 7:04 am

I have voted but cant see a single(if one is released at all)doing very well I am afraid,its a bloody injustice I know.

by **survivorchile** » Thu May 04, 2006 8:38 am

Hi fans in the world, my name is mauricio and the founder Fans club oficial Latin America "Survivor", and the song is:
Reach

Mauricio

by **survivorfan2005** » Tue May 09, 2006 2:10 am

There are rumors going around the net that i've seen that says the band will announce it's first single soon in Europe....what about us in the U.S? details are unknown... I also see no one is voted for FMS?!? lol whats up with that?

by **jrnyman28** » Tue May 09, 2006 3:24 am

I am hearing some rumored problems. Survivor has apparantly cancelled a couple dates citing vocal problems. But it is rumored that is covering up internal issues...

by **Red13JoePa** » Tue May 09, 2006 3:32 am

jrnyman28 wrote:I am hearing some rumored problems. Survivor has apparantly cancelled a couple dates citing vocal problems. But it is rumored that is covering up internal issues...

Not cool...would Andrew care to weigh in? I also notice the Sullivan Reach interview's not been mentioned for a while....

by **survivorfan2005** » Tue May 09, 2006 8:12 am

I wouldn't be suprised if JJ's voice is unperformable. After all it is Spring and a lot of sickness is airborne, my vocals arn't too good this time of the year either... but internal issues? I highly doubt it but anytihng is possilbe... I do know that he's coming to Memphis June 3rd to perform with RPM, as far as I know that's still on schedule..

by **Red13JoePa** » Tue May 09, 2006 11:24 pm

survivorfan2005 wrote: ... I do know that he's coming to Memphis June 3rd to perform with RPM, as far as I know that's still on schedule..

Exaclty. Why the one-off solo shows? He did another one in March in FL. Two disquieting things can be construed out of this odd development.
The rumours of discord that J28 reported are founded, or keeping to the script they've followed thus far Survivor as a band are ignoring the States altogether regards to Reach. No album, no singles, no shows in the US. Vermont was just "postponed."

by **survivorfan2005** » Wed May 10, 2006 2:25 am

I agree. it does seem like they are ignoring us....how can they ignore their home? I'm going to talk to Jimi about this when he comes to Memphis on the 3rd. Anyhow, maybe we'll get a single over here soon. If not, then I wonder how they think that's going to make the millions and millions of Survivor fans over here feel?

by **Red13JoePa** » Wed May 10, 2006 3:10 am

survivorfan2005 wrote:I agree. it does seem like they are ignoring us....how can they ignore their home? I'm going to talk to Jimi about this when he comes to Memphis on the 3rd. Anyhow, maybe we'll get a single over here soon. If not, then I wonder how they think that's going to make the millions and millions of Survivor fans over here feel?

I understand if it's not fiscally feasible (as it isn't for most good bands anymore) over here stateside. But put out a statement, like "Hey, we're tring to get Reach released in the US, just be a little patient" but all the commication's like sunny and happy like everything's a huge go. While the uncertainty of the US release waits ignored like a ridiculous big pink elephant in the corner.

by **Survivor4ever** » Wed May 10, 2006 1:25 pm

Hey everyone...newbie here but I lurk from time to time just to see what's happening.

I was concerned when I read the posts about shows being cancelled and speculation that it might be because of vocal troubles. I can say with 100% certainty that there are absolutely no problems with Jimi's voice. He's as strong as ever. I spoke with his webmaster today just to put my own mind at ease. I've always joked that 30 years from now he'll still be up on that stage belting them out clear as a bell!

I guess we'll all just have to hang tight and see if we get an official reason for the recent cancellations. Lack of promotion (which seems to be the band's biggest obstacle) would be my guess. It's a shame too with Reach out there now.

by **survivorfan2005** » Wed May 10, 2006 3:52 pm

As I stated in a recent post...
If Toto have delivered one monster album with 'Falling In Between' and Jim Peterik's "Above the Storm", then 'Reach' stands only half a step below from that. It iwas a good move on Frontiers' part to have such all-time AOR heavyweights on their roster, and I have absolutely no clue as to how much Volcano have invested on 'Reach' but they are speculated as being the hold for this album when it reaches the states.

I wouldn't want to get too political but if Toto and JP have so far benefited from a lot of promotion work, then Survivor should deserve an equally big and tasty piece of the pie judging by this effort..

by **survivorfan2005** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:57 am

any news on the singles? Anyone care to spleculate on the first single for the U.S?

by **Red13JoePa** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:46 am

Will be the title track, should be the house aflame that is Fire Makes Steel. Been listening to REACH alot, and can never get past this song without hitting the "back" button to go all the way through again.
Also, regards to Rocky REACH is a good choice thematically speaking, but the more aggressive, more menacing, heavier FMS would be better.

by **sherylrob** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:13 am

A new post on the Survivor site by FS says that the latest sales figures since Reach was released is just North of 30K way more than expected. I think once they start touring more and once its released in the US it will jump even higher.

Sheryl

by **survivorfan2005** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:42 pm

if only they'd release it here in the u.s :cry:

then they could sale tons more cd's

by **Red13JoePa** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:24 pm

Well, I'm thinking with the high overseas sales now confirmed a US release should now be iminent.

by **Journey/Survivor** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:00 pm

I voted for Fire Makes Steel because it's tied with Give Me the Word as my two favorite songs from the new album. But sadly I think the days of bands like Survivor and other great AOR bands is pretty much over.

If Survivor could get a song in "Rocky Balboa" AKA-Rocky VI then they might have a slight chance at a hit song, at least in countries other than the U.S.

In the days of old I would say the most likely hit of of the Reach CD would probably be Reach, although one of the ballads would have had a shot as well.

by **Red13JoePa** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:58 pm

J/S.
I think it's all but decided the band is definatle getting 1 track if not 2 onto Rocky Balboa. Probably the title track. You may or may not know that at 1 point it looked like Deano and myself had put The Place In Your Heart, Faith In The Heartland and 2 other songs off Generations, Never Too Late and Beyond The Clouds into Stallone's consideration. I don't know where that stands at this time, though. TPIYH is as perfect as FMS for it.

Agree with you about Gimme The World, too. Sneaky song, might even be better than Reach. Sullivan's lead guitars are devasting on it.

by **survivorfan2005** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:32 am

Interesting facts about Reach thar you may or may not know:

"One More Chance' was written by FS and Dave Bickler

Amy Jamison (JJ's girl) helped write "Gimme The Word".
probobly the reason it'd be more likely to appear on a modern day rock station eventhough Amy plays another style of music.

"I Don't" was also written by FS and Bickler

Chris Grove helped Sullivan write "Talkin' Bout Love" but is said to no longer be in the band even though the song is destined for a hit.

Jim Peterik co-wrote "Rythem of Your Heart"

interesting huh?

by **Journey/Survivor** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:36 pm

Red13JoePa wrote:J/S.
I think it's all but decided the band is definatle getting 1 track if not 2 onto Rocky Balboa. Probably the title track. You may or may not know that at 1 point it looked like Deano and myself had put The Place In Your Heart, Faith In The Heartland and 2 other songs off Generations, Never Too Late and Beyond The Clouds into Stallone's consideration. I don't know where that stands at this time, though. TPIYH is as perfect as FMS for it.

Agree with you about Gimme The World, too. Sneaky song, might even be better than Reach. Sullivan's lead guitars are devasting on it.

No, I was not aware of that. That's awesome if that's the case!!!

When the Rocky Balboa fan forum site went up several months ago I was the first person to leave a message that Survivor should do the theme song for the movie, but I haven't been on that site in a while now.

by **Red13JoePa** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:13 am

Wait. Now Dunaway AND Grove are gone? WTF?
if this is true, then Andrew should make that call to Peterik that FS said he could during the interview.

by **Journey/Survivor** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:18 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Wait. Now Dunaway AND Grove are gone? WTF?
if this is true, then Andrew should make that call to Peterik that FS said he could during the interview.

I knew Dunaway was out, but what's this about Grove being out???

by **AOR rules** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:59 pm

I think this is some kind of misunderstanding. Only Dunaway is out, not Grove

by **sherylrob** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:23 am

Andrew

Where is the interview with Jimi ?

Sheryl

by **Red13JoePa** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:56 am

I know he has the Jimi interview in the can, but see the Journey forum for a little hint of what may be hindering him from typing it up.

by **ForceInfinity** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:21 pm

survivorfan2005 wrote:if only they'd release it here in the u.s then they could sale tons more cd's

Folks, Reach is available on ITunes....currently the only way you're getting it domestically... just by the tracks and burn them onto a CD and you're good to go

by **ForceInfinity** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:22 pm

survivorfan2005 wrote:I wouldn't be suprised if JJ's voice is unperformable. After all it is Spring and a lot of sickness is airborne, my vocals arn't too good this time of the year either... but internal issues? I highly doubt it but anytihng is possilbe... I do know that he's coming to Memphis June 3rd to perform with RPM, as far as I know that's still on schedule..

Btw...I heard Jimi Jamison's voice in concert a couple of years ago, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if his voice was trashed. I know some of the loud screaming he does near the higher end of his range toward the end of many songs isnt' doing him any favors. When he was in Reno it sounded like his voice was either coming apart or something toward the end of the concert. I think the most annoying thing is the stupdly long FS solos that he seems obsessed with doing. It's one thing to do a solo, another to take it to over kill like they seem to do with "I see you in everyone"

MR

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