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Postby Abitaman » Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:54 pm

Well the Survivor show that was being promoted the past two weeks was the other night, at one of our local night clubs. Took forever to find out where, and ended up being a little late. When I got there, no a lot of people, less than a 1,000. Got there and It was not Survivor, but Jimi saying he was :( Good show thou.-ERIC
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Re: Saw live the other night

Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:02 am

Abitaman wrote: Got there and It was not Survivor, but Jimi saying he was :( Good show thou.-ERIC



LOL!!!!!!!!

I wonder if this is gonna become an issue again. He did prevail in that lawsuit that allows both he and Frankie to use Survivor, but really I look at Survivor as currently construed as Survivor.
I don't look at the Jamo band as Survivor.

Fuck if the name means that much to him, why not work with Sullivan to resolve differences and stay in the band?

But a great prediction by Abs, he called it and it happened.
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Postby RockInDetroit » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:03 am

I don't see how this can legally happen. But I saw Jimi after he left Survivor the first time. He only played 4 songs but he was good for those four songs. It was one of those Summer shows where they had three bands. It was Starship, Jimi's Survivor and Molly Hatchet. Molly Hatchet played first and like an hour and a half. They cut into the main two's time. Jimi only got to play 4 songs. THen Starship only got to play 6 songs. All because of Molly Hatchett and the venue's sound curfew. Really disappointing show. What made up for it was that have the audience got up on stage with Mickey Thomas as he same We Built THis City.....I could've gone on stage if I felt....it was kinda funny. It was funny to see guys in Jimi's band singing autographs as the concert was going on.....people in the audience really thought they were all guys from Survivor.
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Postby silvergirl66 » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:46 am

So what he calling his band Survivor or Jimi Jamison's Survivor or what? I'm just curious. I think it stinks if he was going back to his old ways, what a looser!
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Postby Abitaman » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:47 am

I missed the start of the show, but a friend of mine said the band was introduced and Jimi Jamison and Survivor. NOT JIMI OF....-ERIC

Of course how many people out there (even here in Jimi's old stomping ground) really know Jimi is NOT in the band?
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Postby silvergirl66 » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:52 am

Like I said...........Looser! I don't care if you hate me! He's living off Survivor, he would not be anyone if it wasn't for the band.
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Postby Abitaman » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:55 am

Kinda like if Steve Perry went around touring as Journey.
Survivor is gonna have to have a big hit (which is 1,000,00 to 1) for people to know to new singer (Robin), then maybe, just maybe they will know Jimi is out.
Nothing against Jimi, but I like the show, but he needs to be SOLO since he is out of Survivor. Do like Dennis DeYoung of Styx, Tour as Dennis and the music of Styx or Like Lou Gramm (who at first tried the same thing as Jimi) Lou Gramm formerly of foreigner-ERIC
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Postby silvergirl66 » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:59 am

This is why I have no respect for the man. Doesn't matter how good a singer he is or was. He has no balls to stand alone. He has to ride on the coat tails of Survivor to be someone. Whatever. I really can't stand him now. You dont' see DAVE BICKLER doing anything like this!!!!!!! That's because he's THE MAN!
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Postby Lark » Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:01 am

First and foremost, I am not a JJ fan. I am even less a FS fan. I am a fan of the Survivor that I grew up with on the radio. However, FS and group are not playing any shows. They played approximately 15 shows in 2006. In July, FS broke his neck to announce that JJ had been replaced. Then we hear from JJ's camp that he quit. If FS and group are not going to play then I understand why JJ would use the name to market himself.
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Postby silvergirl66 » Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:12 am

I have no problem with JJ marketing himself as the former lead singer of Survivor, but doing what he did in the past is WRONG! What's wrong with Jimi Jamison, former lead singer of survivor? Then I wouldn't be so angry.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:13 am

I kinda agree w/ Lark. The real Survivor should book more shows.

We can't rule out promoter error either in the recent JJ case.... That was apparently the case with Lou Gramm and Gramm worked to put a stop to that. I think he should be allowed to mention Survivor for billings, like "Jimi Jamison Formerly Of...." but that's as far as it should go wether or not he's legally entitled to.
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Postby silvergirl66 » Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:27 am

It could be a possibilty that is was a promoters mistake and if it was, I would think differently. I'm hoping he's not up to his old tricks. It's so disappointing if he is.
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Postby MarcelJordan » Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:04 pm

silvergirl66 wrote:It could be a possibilty that is was a promoters mistake and if it was, I would think differently. I'm hoping he's not up to his old tricks. It's so disappointing if he is.


I was always against JJ using Survivor name. Those days were also when FS said (when DB came back), to see the REAL THING and not JJ. Now that RM is in the band, FS seems to have softened his approach and said "the new Survivor". Wonder if that has anything to do with JJ going around AGAIN.
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Postby Abitaman » Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:42 pm

Jimi using the Survivor name could be the promoter's doing, not Jimi (this time around anyway). What would pull more in Jimi or Survivor? I doubt that is what it is thou-ERIC
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Postby silvergirl66 » Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:44 am

Can you tell me where this show was at again?
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slander checks in

Postby Slander » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:34 am

As a guy who drove 7 hours to see Frankie and Robin in August in Lewieston Idaho and turned out to be Memphis Blood w/JImi, I am outraged by Jamisons behavior.
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Postby RockInDetroit » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:35 am

The problem I havw with this is if Jimi calls his band Survivor adn Frankie calls his band Survivor...how do people paying to go to the shows know which they are getting. I am referring in part to people like the original poster who had no idea which band would show up til he got there. For the sake of fans like this guy he needs to know. Honestly if I had to chose which Survivor I would rather see it would be Jimi's band but let the people decide.
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Postby Abitaman » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:42 am

silvergirl66 wrote:Can you tell me where this show was at again?


In Dyersburg at the (a) rodeo night club. Don't ask much about it, I am assuming I missed a good deal of the show, saw only 6 or 7 songs. I was passed out in bed (from pain pills for kidney stones), and I had forgotten about it. My brother came by said he was heading out there and took me. Probably wished he would have left me home, since soon after getting there I had to go back home (hurting)-ERIC
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Postby silvergirl66 » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:44 am

oh you poor thing, those are very painful. HOpe your feeling better.
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Re: slander checks in

Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:07 am

Slander wrote:As a guy who drove 7 hours to see Frankie and Robin in August in Lewieston Idaho and turned out to be Memphis Blood w/JImi, I am outraged by Jamisons behavior.


Yea, but THAT one, Slander wasn't Jamo's fault. Survivor bailed on the gig and Jimi, billed as Jimi replaced them, right?


This latest one, according to Abs, sounds fishy but we should try and confirm exactly what the billing was first.
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Postby Abitaman » Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:10 am

The radio ads were for Survivor. I heard them. I was told commercials the day before and the day of were worded different, as Jimi J. and Survivor. And from my understanding that was how they were introduced.

Kind of sounds like this is more of a promoter thing than a Jimi. Same thing was going on with Lou Gramm for a while. They were billing him as Foreigner for a while, then HE put a stop to it. At the Lou show, I talked to his brother(?) who was selling shirts at the show. The Shirts said The Lou Gramm Band. But his brother told me that Lou was not happy with how he was being promoted, but they thought people knew Foreigner over Lou. And at the time Foreigner was not touring, so the promoters took it on themselves to promote that way. Maybe the same thing with Jimi-ERIC
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Postby Lark » Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:35 am

Well, of course, a Promoter is going to PROMOTE the band name rather than the singer because more people identify with Survivor than the name Jimi Jamison or even Frankie Sullivan. JJ is not responsible for Promotion, flyers, radio spots, etc. That is the responsibility of the Promoter or the Venue. What better way to fill up a night club than to say "Survivor" or rather than "Jimi Jamison". Doesn't make it right just makes it sell tickets and that is the name of the game.
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Postby Buz Gaden » Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:32 am

My brother interviewed Jimi for the forthcoming edition of Fireworks recently, and Jimi came across as an honest and genuine man. I'm sure any confusion regarding the Survivor name was down to the promoters rather than him, as he made it clear, he wasn't particularly happy with the direction Survivor were going, and that there were far too many mid tempo songs for his taste on "Reach".

He wished the Robin line up all the best, despite Robin not coming close to either Jamison or Bickler's vocal ability, and certainly didn't resemble the asshole he's made out to be on many posts on this forum.

Also he's working with another former member of Survivor on some songs at the moment, which I'm sure will blow away anything by the band Sullivan is currently trying to pass off as Survivor.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:15 am

Buz Gaden wrote: Jamison certainly didn't resemble the asshole he's made out to be on many posts on this forum.

Also he's working with another former member of Survivor on some songs at the moment, which I'm sure will blow away anything by the band Sullivan is currently trying to pass off as Survivor.


Agree with #1, but feel that neither Jamo or Survivor can be without eachother what they are with eachother.


If Jimi and Peterik get together, and Sullivan and Droubay are still in Survivor, then why doesn't Azoff Mgmt or someone just call Stephan Ellis and let him be the link that brings Vital Signs Survivor back?
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Postby silvergirl66 » Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:15 am

who might that former member be? Are you talking bout that guy who was a bass player for what maybe 6 months?
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:18 am

Peterik.

Not Dave, SilverGirl :D


I say we give Survivor as currently construed a shot with the new album that's been promised for this year.


If it bombs then you either have to get Peterik, Ellis and most importantly either Dave or Jimi back.
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Postby silvergirl66 » Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:21 am

JImi is working with Peterik? Now I'm really confused
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:36 am

silvergirl66 wrote:JImi is working with Peterik? Now I'm really confused



That's what they say.

I love JJ but I'll be picking up the new Survivor before the JJ/Peterik project.


I wonder if this thing could become an Asia thing where recently you had Asia and Wetton/Downes both out and then Asia just kind of absorbed Wetton/Downes (or vice versa is how it went I think) and all carried on.
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Postby Lark » Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:52 am

I have a reliable source/connection that said JJ played a show (VOICES or RPM, I don't know which) a few months back and JP was there. They sang a Survivor song and a joke was made after the show that maybe they should get together. So maybe they decided to work together. I also hear the JJ is a genuine person. I have heard so much more but won't go into those details other than to say there are two sides to every story and things are not always as they appear to be. Again, I am not a JJ fan or a FS fan. I am a fan of the music I grew up with.
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Postby silvergirl66 » Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:08 am

I'd rather see Peterik back with FRankie, that's where the true magic was. IMO
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