Robin mcauley , new singer from demon

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Robin mcauley , new singer from demon

Postby capitan2010 » Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:06 am

Robin with the new band demon, featuring the song freedom, to see the web:

http://www.demonangels.com/media.htm

robin out to survivor and, jimi come back to survivor

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Postby IngoK » Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:14 am

It´s interessting to see but definately I don´t like it!
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:17 am

What?

WTF is going on?
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Postby Eyeof » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:27 am

Hey Red....hard to believe that as hard as they are working on Survivor, there is time for McAuley to be in another couple of bands and be making albums and videos....and Billy O in some other band...
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:37 am

...and Grove in another side band.


Christ.
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Postby Eyeof » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:00 am

How does the old VH song go Red? Dream Another dream...this dream is over...

On tht note...i downloaded a Cherone Concert with VH from '98....

It kicked ass man....have you heard any?

If nothing else, awesome classic VH song list....
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Postby Red13JoePa » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:09 am

I have a VHIII tour radio broacast it WAS phenomenal.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:08 am

Work that hard is actually termed "indentured servitude". McAuley hasn't slept since May of 2006. Everyone warned him this would happen if he joined a band as hard-working as Survivor. Contrary to popular belief, Frankie's collection of whips, chains, and handcuffs is not to fulfill his sadomastochistic fetishes, but rather to ensure the rest of the band stays in line.
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Postby MarcelJordan » Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:03 pm

7 Wishes wrote:Work that hard is actually termed "indentured servitude". McAuley hasn't slept since May of 2006. Everyone warned him this would happen if he joined a band as hard-working as Survivor. Contrary to popular belief, Frankie's collection of whips, chains, and handcuffs is not to fulfill his sadomastochistic fetishes, but rather to ensure the rest of the band stays in line.


Here we go again. But let's face it. All the nice words bout Billy O. and Chris, are nice and dandy BUT if you think about it for them to stick with Frankie all these years, probably means Frankie IS NOT this despot people seem to think he is.
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Postby IngoK » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:05 pm

MarcelJordan wrote:
7 Wishes wrote:Work that hard is actually termed "indentured servitude". McAuley hasn't slept since May of 2006. Everyone warned him this would happen if he joined a band as hard-working as Survivor. Contrary to popular belief, Frankie's collection of whips, chains, and handcuffs is not to fulfill his sadomastochistic fetishes, but rather to ensure the rest of the band stays in line.


Here we go again. But let's face it. All the nice words bout Billy O. and Chris, are nice and dandy BUT if you think about it for them to stick with Frankie all these years, probably means Frankie IS NOT this despot people seem to think he is.


Good Argument. I suppose all sarcastic points are coming only because we fans are disapointed about what the band (Frankie) delivered within the past years.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:20 am

MarcelJordan wrote:
7 Wishes wrote:Work that hard is actually termed "indentured servitude". McAuley hasn't slept since May of 2006. Everyone warned him this would happen if he joined a band as hard-working as Survivor. Contrary to popular belief, Frankie's collection of whips, chains, and handcuffs is not to fulfill his sadomastochistic fetishes, but rather to ensure the rest of the band stays in line.


Here we go again. But let's face it. All the nice words bout Billy O. and Chris, are nice and dandy BUT if you think about it for them to stick with Frankie all these years, probably means Frankie IS NOT this despot people seem to think he is.



What do you mean "here we ago again?"

He's turned Survivor into a side project for these guys. They have to teach music lessons and play in garage bands to get steady paychex and you're spinning Frankie as the salt of the earth?
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Postby Eyeof » Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:28 am

or what he hasn't delivered...
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Postby Eyeof » Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:29 am

I agree for the most part, we are all just joking around...

I will say that - in any walk of life - when you talk one thing and do the other, when you promise grand things and don't deliver at all...you open yourself up for this type of ragging...
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Postby MarcelJordan » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:15 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
MarcelJordan wrote:
7 Wishes wrote:Work that hard is actually termed "indentured servitude". McAuley hasn't slept since May of 2006. Everyone warned him this would happen if he joined a band as hard-working as Survivor. Contrary to popular belief, Frankie's collection of whips, chains, and handcuffs is not to fulfill his sadomastochistic fetishes, but rather to ensure the rest of the band stays in line.


Here we go again. But let's face it. All the nice words bout Billy O. and Chris, are nice and dandy BUT if you think about it for them to stick with Frankie all these years, probably means Frankie IS NOT this despot people seem to think he is.



What do you mean "here we ago again?"

He's turned Survivor into a side project for these guys. They have to teach music lessons and play in garage bands to get steady paychex and you're spinning Frankie as the salt of the earth?


Dude, you EVER talk to talk to Chris and Billy O?. How do you know they NEED side projects because they can't make enough? So, PPOR.

Maybe I give FS the salt is because I am a Survivor fan and they ARE on the road. So give it up :wink:
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Postby MarcelJordan » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:19 am

Eyeof wrote:I agree for the most part, we are all just joking around...

I will say that - in any walk of life - when you talk one thing and do the other, when you promise grand things and don't deliver at all...you open yourself up for this type of ragging...


Glad you agree in some way. Meanwhile, he's not been chastised publicly, for his failed promises. Don't you think he should be? Why is it not? :twisted:
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Postby Slander » Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:28 am

MarcelJordan wrote:
Eyeof wrote:I agree for the most part, we are all just joking around...

I will say that - in any walk of life - when you talk one thing and do the other, when you promise grand things and don't deliver at all...you open yourself up for this type of ragging...


Glad you agree in some way. Meanwhile, he's not been chastised publicly, for his failed promises. Don't you think he should be? Why is it not? :twisted:


Marcel don't listen to these idiots. Frankie and the guys are plenty busy. It certainly isn't uncommon for band members to be involved in other things. Everyone does it. Robin has Bleed and he was in Demon. People need to get the facts. Survivor is busy. All people have to do is look at their friggin' tour schedule. People are just happy bitching because their own lives are miserable.
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Postby Eyeof » Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:10 am

It's funny that you always result to name calling...it says a great deal...

This is a forum for debate or whatever and people can post what they want. The fact is that if Frankie had not spent the last 20 years telling one lie after another, people would not say what they say...

I'm not going to break down if I think they are busy or not etc. and before you say something about what JJ is doing, I don't care either...

I hope that Frankie can prove me a liar, much like he's proven himself over and over...
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Postby Eyeof » Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:14 am

Marcel,

I'm not sure what you mean?

I think that Frankie has been chastised publicly for his actions. I'll give him that.

You won't hear much about it, because quite honestly they are so inactive that most people just don't care. But he's taken a hard hit by the diehard fans in the past 10 years...

Without knowing him it's hard to say if he means well and just dreams big or he just spurts off BS....

A lot of people are still mad about him firing Dave in '00...who knows what happened there...who ever will? Maybe he had no choice...maybe taking JJ back was his only option...i'm not sure...

It's just all a hard pill to swallow...

I really believe that this band could have done so much...

LIke Slander, I think that Scottie Bros killed them as well...
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Postby Slander » Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:26 am

Eyeof wrote:It's funny that you always result to name calling...it says a great deal...

This is a forum for debate or whatever and people can post what they want. The fact is that if Frankie had not spent the last 20 years telling one lie after another, people would not say what they say...

I'm not going to break down if I think they are busy or not etc. and before you say something about what JJ is doing, I don't care either...

I hope that Frankie can prove me a liar, much like he's proven himself over and over...


We're not doing this. We aren't. I apologize for calling you guys idiots. It's fine call others all the names you want. Your response smacks of hypocrisy. Having said that you guys just start spouting off about Robin being in other bands etc. I don't know what good it serves. You people need to look at Survivor's schedule.
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Postby Slander » Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:30 am

Eyeof wrote:Marcel,
LIke Slander, I think that Scottie Bros killed them as well...


It's nice we can agree on this. I however unlike most have been happy with the band for the bast year. On the surface it does appear the band is playing more dates. I'm happy about DWTS. I'm happy they had REACH out last year. If they can get something out by the end of the year even a bigger bonus! I am a Dave Bickler fan. I make no bones about it. I wish he could have been on all of Survivor's albums. He was the voice of Survivor. Period end of story. It's been a hard adjustment with Robin. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I also think he can bring something to the band they've never had. A showman. I also think his voice is suited to other songs that Dave or Jamo couldn't pull off. Maybe a heavier sound if you well. I always thought Jamo sounded cheesy doing the harder stuff. Just my opinion.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:40 am

Slander wrote:Marcel don't listen to these idiots. Frankie and the guys are plenty busy. It certainly isn't uncommon for band members to be involved in other things. Everyone does it. Robin has Bleed and he was in Demon. People need to get the facts. Survivor is busy. All people have to do is look at their friggin' tour schedule. People are just happy bitching because their own lives are miserable.


Up yours, Slander. Most years, I perform 50-60 gigs a year - on top of the piano and voice lessons I give (25 students), and my teaching job. My life is miserable? Hardly. I'm one of the happiest people in the world. I'm also prone to sarcasm. IT WAS A JOKE, KEVIN! Get over yourself, already.
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Postby Slander » Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:04 am

7 Wishes wrote:
Slander wrote:Marcel don't listen to these idiots. Frankie and the guys are plenty busy. It certainly isn't uncommon for band members to be involved in other things. Everyone does it. Robin has Bleed and he was in Demon. People need to get the facts. Survivor is busy. All people have to do is look at their friggin' tour schedule. People are just happy bitching because their own lives are miserable.


Up yours, Slander. Most years, I perform 50-60 gigs a year - on top of the piano and voice lessons I give (25 students), and my teaching job. My life is miserable? Hardly. I'm one of the happiest people in the world. I'm also prone to sarcasm. IT WAS A JOKE, KEVIN! Get over yourself, already.


Like I said your words are that of someone who seems miserable. I'm going to try to stay positive. You guys can keep rehashing the past. You guys can keep calling Frankie a liar. I'm looking forward, you seem to be living in the past.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:15 am

Eyeof wrote: before you say something about what JJ is doing, I don't care


LOL, I do.
See, dude me and you are friends even though I'm a Jimi and you a dave guy.
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Postby Slander » Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:20 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
Eyeof wrote: before you say something about what JJ is doing, I don't care


LOL, I do.
See, dude me and you are friends even though I'm a Jimi and you a dave guy.


Question for you. What do you think of Lou Gramm featuring Foreigner or Dennis DeYoung featuring Stxy of Steve Perry featuring Journey? Just curious.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:28 am

Slander wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
Eyeof wrote: before you say something about what JJ is doing, I don't care


LOL, I do.
See, dude me and you are friends even though I'm a Jimi and you a dave guy.


Question for you. What do you think of Lou Gramm featuring Foreigner or Dennis DeYoung featuring Stxy of Steve Perry featuring Journey? Just curious.


Answer for you, my good man.
I think Foreigner is Mick Jone's band, Styx is Shaw's band and Journey's Neal Schon's band all for better or worse. And Survivor is Frankie's band.
I agree that it is wrong if Jamo is billing himself as Survivor or Survivor featuring, I don't think it's wrong for him to bill himself as Formerly Of or even The Voice Of, and neither would I have a problem with Dave doing the same.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:24 am

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Like I said your words are that of someone who seems miserable. I'm going to try to stay positive. You guys can keep rehashing the past. You guys can keep calling Frankie a liar. I'm looking forward, you seem to be living in the past.


No-one is calling him a liar, dufus. The fact is that you are constantly putting us down. We're tired of his "all talk, no action" bullshit because it's our favourite damned band. Wanting Survivor to hire a singer who can actually sing Survivor songs is indicative of someone who understands what it takes for the band to succeed, not someone who is living in the past. You are so irritating.
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Postby Slander » Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:37 am

7 Wishes wrote:
Slander wrote:
Like I said your words are that of someone who seems miserable. I'm going to try to stay positive. You guys can keep rehashing the past. You guys can keep calling Frankie a liar. I'm looking forward, you seem to be living in the past.


No-one is calling him a liar, dufus. The fact is that you are constantly putting us down. We're tired of his "all talk, no action" bullshit because it's our favourite damned band. Wanting Survivor to hire a singer who can actually sing Survivor songs is indicative of someone who understands what it takes for the band to succeed, not someone who is living in the past. You are so irritating.


What is your idea of talk and no action? They had an album out last year. They are doing more dates this year. They were on national tv. What do you expect from an 80's band that wasn't a headliner.
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Postby MarcelJordan » Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:58 am

Wanting Survivor to hire a singer who can actually sing Survivor songs is indicative of someone who understands what it takes for the band to succeed, not someone who is living in the past

First, Frankie said the "new Survivor". We need to be patient for the new record to see what Robin can do ( I can give them another year and a half max 8) ) for it to come out. Next thing is Robin IS NOT bad in most of the tunes, but I must say Eye is a tough one to sing and he's got a totally different sound to it. Granted to be very frank, I rather have him NOT do it.

Its always also going to be a preference thing with Robin's voice. I just like it, as it sounds sincere and less airs about it, like Dave was (just a personal thing for me). Meanwhile, Jimi's to be seems too low pitched and Queens English nowadays to me for my liking. I also prefer Robin's Fire Makes Steel more than JJ's. Sounds more urgent.

Like Slander, Dave's also my guy and always will be the voice of Survivor. That said, I think "living in the past" would be IF Dave or JJ was in the band now. Robin is Survivor of today and future, that's forward. We can't really bring back the past anyway, but in memory. Life's like that.
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Postby IngoK » Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:17 pm

Slander wrote:
7 Wishes wrote:
Slander wrote:
Like I said your words are that of someone who seems miserable. I'm going to try to stay positive. You guys can keep rehashing the past. You guys can keep calling Frankie a liar. I'm looking forward, you seem to be living in the past.


No-one is calling him a liar, dufus. The fact is that you are constantly putting us down. We're tired of his "all talk, no action" bullshit because it's our favourite damned band. Wanting Survivor to hire a singer who can actually sing Survivor songs is indicative of someone who understands what it takes for the band to succeed, not someone who is living in the past. You are so irritating.


What is your idea of talk and no action? They had an album out last year. They are doing more dates this year. They were on national tv. What do you expect from an 80's band that wasn't a headliner.


Not getting disapointed again by not fulfilled announcements. Sure they had an album out last year, sure they do (hopefully) more dates this year, sure they were on national TV. But how many times, or how long time was a new album announced when Dave was in the Band?

Things like that made us disapointed. Everybody would be happy if they release a new Album with the polarizing McAuley this year. But waiting all the years with not much that happened makes it not easy for us die hard fans.
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Postby AR » Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:49 am

Robin is great but doesn't fit Survivor.

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