Jamo Fans Where Are You

by **Slander** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:06 am

The silence on the board speaks volumes. JJ has new music and no one seems to be talking about it. Is JJ's new album going to be country like Bon Jovi's Lost Highway? What do you all think. I'm surprised no one is talking about this.

by **Red13JoePa** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:53 am

****SSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!****** The "Jamo fans" are in a think tank with Frankie "Deep Thoughts" Sullivan.

They need quiet and time.

by **Slander** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:03 am

Red13JoePa wrote:****SSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!****** The "Jamo fans" are in a think tank with Frankie "Deep Thoughts" Sullivan.

They need quiet and time.

I just don't understand. Everyone wants new music. Jamo puts something out and the board is silent. Why?

by **Lark** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:13 am

Slander, you crack me up!!!!! First and foremost, you have been the FS cheerleader, all the the way, every time one of us that live in reality stated that we didn't believe there would be a new 2007 album, you would come back and say that FS said there would be and you believed it and then you would berate us for our "doubt" and tell us how sick you were of the Jamo fans on this board, blah blah blah. Now you turn around and say a new album was never promised. Now, in order to take the heat off of FS, no 2007 album, no German tour, you are focusing on Jamo. When, in the past, all you did was put him down and say "i don't see anything that JAMO has released" what is Jamo doing, serving drinks at a bar? and on and on from you.

Survivor's webmaster cannot even take the time to update their site, it is still showing the German dates on the site. I haven't had time to listen to the JAMO track and will try to by the end of the day. I am so happy for him because he is a great guy that got a raw deal, IMO. He loves his fans, spends time with them after shows and is a great entertainer. Not taking away from Robin as I like him also, but this post is about FS and JAMO.

by **Slander** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:22 am

Lark wrote:Slander, you crack me up!!!!! First and foremost, you have been the FS cheerleader, all the the way, every time one of us that live in reality stated that we didn't believe there would be a new 2007 album, you would come back and say that FS said there would be and you believed it and then you would berate us for our "doubt" and tell us how sick you were of the Jamo fans on this board, blah blah blah. Now you turn around and say a new album was never promised. Now, in order to take the heat off of FS, no 2007 album, no German tour, you are focusing on Jamo. When, in the past, all you did was put him down and say "i don't see anything that JAMO has released" what is Jamo doing, serving drinks at a bar? and on and on from you.

Survivor's webmaster cannot even take the time to update their site, it is still showing the German dates on the site. I haven't had time to listen to the JAMO track and will try to by the end of the day. I am so happy for him because he is a great guy that got a raw deal, IMO. He loves his fans, spends time with them after shows and is a great entertainer. Not taking away from Robin as I like him also, but this post is about FS and JAMO.

Jamo is a great guy and one of the best aor vocalists ever. I'm surprised no one is talking about the new track on his myspace sight. It would make for an interesting conversation. I'm not a big fan of the track but that has little to do with Jamo himself. Frankie never promised an album period. Let's get that straight. When have I bashed JJ? All I have said in the past is let's hold JJ to the same standard we do Survivor. If you guys are going to knock FS for lack of production then let's hold JJ to the same standard. What's wrong with that? The serving drinks at a bar was joke! It's not malicious. He was part owner of nightclub. That is far from the nasty crap you guys right about FS. It really is sick sometimes. We do agree that Survivor should be more open with their fans. More info etc. I have said that repeatedly. I am not an FS cheerleader. Hell he doesn't need me. The quality of his work speaks for itself. I am thrilled JJ has a loyal fan base. I wish him great success. He is a nice guy. I've met him on a couple times. I just find the silence about JJ's new song shocking. Where are the JJ's fans? It's a fair question.

by **Red13JoePa** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:31 am

Slander wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:****SSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!****** The "Jamo fans" are in a think tank with Frankie "Deep Thoughts" Sullivan.

They need quiet and time.

I just don't understand. Everyone wants new music. Jamo puts something out and the board is silent. Why?

I don't know about "everyone" but I want new Survivor music, the new music that's been spoken of since McSurvivor launched last July.

How does that equate with JJ releasing a song?

by **Slander** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:38 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
Slander wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:****SSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!****** The "Jamo fans" are in a think tank with Frankie "Deep Thoughts" Sullivan.

They need quiet and time.

I just don't understand. Everyone wants new music. Jamo puts something out and the board is silent. Why?

I don't know about "everyone" but I want new Survivor music, the new music that's been spoken of since McSurvivor launched last July.

How does that equate with JJ releasing a song?

My point is this is a Survivor, JP, JJ board. Not just Survivor! This isn't a Survivor conversation. It's a JJ-JP conversation. I'm surprised no one wants to talk about the new music put out by 2 ex members of Survivor. Where are the JJ-JP fans. You know the ones that say more people would rather see JJ and JP at a concert than Survivor. Here's our chance to talk about new music. I have already given my opinion on the new track and I'm waiting for others to weigh in. I for one am glad JJ and JP are working together. I Hope they rock harder than Come Dancing however. JJ fans where are you? I hear an echo.

by **axecrew** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:24 am

Ok slander I'll bite.......Do we hold Jim Peterik to the same standards as we hold Frankie? You of course better realize that the answer had better be Yes.
And if we do....then it's safe to say that Jim has creatively blown Frankie "Van Gogh" Sullivan out of the water in the last 5 or 6 years. Anyone who believes otherwise is either a fool or slander. Just so you won't have any problem with the facts....
Jim has done: 1 Solo album of new material
1 Re-mastered Solo Album from his original album in 1976
3 Pride of Lions albums of new material
1 Pride of Lions tribute EP concerning the bombings in Madrid(Song was "Black Ribbons")
1 Pride of Lions Live DVD/CD with bonus CD of new original material
1 Ides of March Live cd
1 Ides of March album with both new and olds songs on it.
Has written tons of songs with various artist,including .38 Special,Kip Winger,Kevin Chalfant,Tom Keifer,
Kelly Keagy,and others
Co-produced Kelly Keagy's new album I'm Alive

Frankie has done: 1 Survivor album( Of which Jim co-wrote songs for)
Produced new Mecca album
Now I haven't mentioned anything about live dates,but I think it's safe to say Jim plays more live dates than Survivor.

If I left anything out,please remind me.

Haven't heard the new Jamo song...don't care to for 1 reason...a lot of times the finished product is different than the Sneak Peaks on a website or myspace page.
I'll wait until it comes out in finished form.
1 question for Joe Vanna...How come your name is no longer on the ads for the melodicrock show in October? Are you no longer going to be there.

by **Joe Vana** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:11 am

axecrew wrote:Ok slander I'll bite.......Do we hold Jim Peterik to the same standards as we hold Frankie? You of course better realize that the answer had better be Yes.
And if we do....then it's safe to say that Jim has creatively blown Frankie "Van Gogh" Sullivan out of the water in the last 5 or 6 years. Anyone who believes otherwise is either a fool or slander. Just so you won't have any problem with the facts....
Jim has done: 1 Solo album of new material
1 Re-mastered Solo Album from his original album in 1976
3 Pride of Lions albums of new material
1 Pride of Lions tribute EP concerning the bombings in Madrid(Song was "Black Ribbons")
1 Pride of Lions Live DVD/CD with bonus CD of new original material
1 Ides of March Live cd
1 Ides of March album with both new and olds songs on it.
Has written tons of songs with various artist,including .38 Special,Kip Winger,Kevin Chalfant,Tom Keifer,
Kelly Keagy,and others
Co-produced Kelly Keagy's new album I'm Alive

Frankie has done: 1 Survivor album( Of which Jim co-wrote songs for)
Produced new Mecca album
Now I haven't mentioned anything about live dates,but I think it's safe to say Jim plays more live dates than Survivor.

If I left anything out,please remind me.

Haven't heard the new Jamo song...don't care to for 1 reason...a lot of times the finished product is different than the Sneak Peaks on a website or myspace page.
I'll wait until it comes out in finished form.
1 question for Joe Vanna...How come your name is no longer on the ads for the melodicrock show in October? Are you no longer going to be there.

Yea man...I'll be there...but, since I am coming alone (without the rest of the guys) there may not be a suitable way for me to play....BUT...I am a sponsor of the show (I own Barone's of Lisle) and I really am just looking forward to meeting Andrew!!! Plus....I am doing a ton of sessions each week right now on Mecca, plus commercial stuff....and am pretty fried....
But who knows!!!!

As far as your discography above of material by JP and Frankie I will say this....Peter Gabriel hasn't done a new album in like 5 years...and to me he smokes everybody!! It's all about the QUALITY of the work, not how many "products" you can flood the market with...This doesn't say anything negative about either guy, just my opinion...I respect them both a ton....just wanted to give this a different look is all...

And....I am looking forward to Jimi's new album...I am really interested in the direction and listening to the vocals.....

JV

by **Red13JoePa** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:23 pm

JV, nobody's asking Survivor to flood the market.

In the US, we just want an album.

Nobody here has walked into a record store and bought a brand new Survivor album since 1988.

by **axecrew** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:55 pm

Joe Vana wrote:
axecrew wrote:Ok slander I'll bite.......Do we hold Jim Peterik to the same standards as we hold Frankie? You of course better realize that the answer had better be Yes.
And if we do....then it's safe to say that Jim has creatively blown Frankie "Van Gogh" Sullivan out of the water in the last 5 or 6 years. Anyone who believes otherwise is either a fool or slander. Just so you won't have any problem with the facts....
Jim has done: 1 Solo album of new material
1 Re-mastered Solo Album from his original album in 1976
3 Pride of Lions albums of new material
1 Pride of Lions tribute EP concerning the bombings in Madrid(Song was "Black Ribbons")
1 Pride of Lions Live DVD/CD with bonus CD of new original material
1 Ides of March Live cd
1 Ides of March album with both new and olds songs on it.
Has written tons of songs with various artist,including .38 Special,Kip Winger,Kevin Chalfant,Tom Keifer,
Kelly Keagy,and others
Co-produced Kelly Keagy's new album I'm Alive

Frankie has done: 1 Survivor album( Of which Jim co-wrote songs for)
Produced new Mecca album
Now I haven't mentioned anything about live dates,but I think it's safe to say Jim plays more live dates than Survivor.

If I left anything out,please remind me.

Haven't heard the new Jamo song...don't care to for 1 reason...a lot of times the finished product is different than the Sneak Peaks on a website or myspace page.
I'll wait until it comes out in finished form.
1 question for Joe Vanna...How come your name is no longer on the ads for the melodicrock show in October? Are you no longer going to be there.

Yea man...I'll be there...but, since I am coming alone (without the rest of the guys) there may not be a suitable way for me to play....BUT...I am a sponsor of the show (I own Barone's of Lisle) and I really am just looking forward to meeting Andrew!!! Plus....I am doing a ton of sessions each week right now on Mecca, plus commercial stuff....and am pretty fried....
But who knows!!!!

As far as your discography above of material by JP and Frankie I will say this....Peter Gabriel hasn't done a new album in like 5 years...and to me he smokes everybody!! It's all about the QUALITY of the work, not how many "products" you can flood the market with...This doesn't say anything negative about either guy, just my opinion...I respect them both a ton....just wanted to give this a different look is all...

And....I am looking forward to Jimi's new album...I am really interested in the direction and listening to the vocals.....

JV

Joe, glad you put that qualifier on the end...otherwise one could read it to say that Jim has "flooded the market" with inferior product.
I look at it as Jim has been more creative during that time period.

by **Joe Vana** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:54 pm

axecrew wrote:
Joe Vana wrote:
axecrew wrote:Ok slander I'll bite.......Do we hold Jim Peterik to the same standards as we hold Frankie? You of course better realize that the answer had better be Yes.
And if we do....then it's safe to say that Jim has creatively blown Frankie "Van Gogh" Sullivan out of the water in the last 5 or 6 years. Anyone who believes otherwise is either a fool or slander. Just so you won't have any problem with the facts....
Jim has done: 1 Solo album of new material
1 Re-mastered Solo Album from his original album in 1976
3 Pride of Lions albums of new material
1 Pride of Lions tribute EP concerning the bombings in Madrid(Song was "Black Ribbons")
1 Pride of Lions Live DVD/CD with bonus CD of new original material
1 Ides of March Live cd
1 Ides of March album with both new and olds songs on it.
Has written tons of songs with various artist,including .38 Special,Kip Winger,Kevin Chalfant,Tom Keifer,
Kelly Keagy,and others
Co-produced Kelly Keagy's new album I'm Alive

Frankie has done: 1 Survivor album( Of which Jim co-wrote songs for)
Produced new Mecca album
Now I haven't mentioned anything about live dates,but I think it's safe to say Jim plays more live dates than Survivor.

If I left anything out,please remind me.

Haven't heard the new Jamo song...don't care to for 1 reason...a lot of times the finished product is different than the Sneak Peaks on a website or myspace page.
I'll wait until it comes out in finished form.
1 question for Joe Vanna...How come your name is no longer on the ads for the melodicrock show in October? Are you no longer going to be there.

Yea man...I'll be there...but, since I am coming alone (without the rest of the guys) there may not be a suitable way for me to play....BUT...I am a sponsor of the show (I own Barone's of Lisle) and I really am just looking forward to meeting Andrew!!! Plus....I am doing a ton of sessions each week right now on Mecca, plus commercial stuff....and am pretty fried....
But who knows!!!!

As far as your discography above of material by JP and Frankie I will say this....Peter Gabriel hasn't done a new album in like 5 years...and to me he smokes everybody!! It's all about the QUALITY of the work, not how many "products" you can flood the market with...This doesn't say anything negative about either guy, just my opinion...I respect them both a ton....just wanted to give this a different look is all...

And....I am looking forward to Jimi's new album...I am really interested in the direction and listening to the vocals.....

JV

Joe, glad you put that qualifier on the end...otherwise one could read it to say that Jim has "flooded the market" with inferior product.
I look at it as Jim has been more creative during that time period.

Guys...I am glad you got it....PLUS, I totally get where you are coming from.....I am Jamison fan...a Peterik fan and a Frankie Sullivan fan....and the more I work with him the more brilliant he becomes to me...I tried for 6 months to do a vocal for a tune called "Deceptive Cadence"...in 2 hours last night we were finished, and I almost broke down after....he is a surgeon when it comes to working with a singer....but back to the point, He enjoys producing so much, and is so amazing at it as well....I do hope there will be another album, and soon....but that is up to him, and quite frankly I have never asked....

This is a Jamison thread however...so in that vein Jimi keep the new tunes coming, again, I can't wait to see the direction they take.....

JV

by **IngoK** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:28 pm

Joe Vana wrote:
This is a Jamison thread however...so in that vein Jimi keep the new tunes coming, again, I can't wait to see the direction they take.....

JV

Exactly! I like the song, it shows that Jamo still have the wonderful voice but I hope that the new Album will be more heavier, for e.g. like Empires

by **Journey/Survivor** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:16 pm

I'm a huge fan of Jimi Jamison. He's my favorite singer of all time, and that's saying a hell of a lot since I'm a huge fan of Steve Perry, Lou Gramm, Dave Bickler and Joe Lynn Turner. Or for that matter Kevin Chalfant, Steve Augeri, Mike Reno, Paul Rodgers etc, etc.

I'm very excited that Jimi and Jim are working together, and I can't wait to hear their album when it comes out! Although I will be extremely let down if it sounds like a country album, country bores me to death, and at times drives me up a wall.

Part of the reson that I don't talk about Jamison very much is because it seems like there are way more Dave Bickler fans on this site than Jamison fans? I am a huge fan of both Jamison and Bickler, and I know there are others on here that are a fan of both. But it seems like there are a lot of people on here who like Bickler and don't like Jamison? So I don't bring up Jamo very often.

by **Journey/Survivor** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:23 pm

Joe Vana,

Please feel free to post on here anytime you want, it's good to hear from you!

I know that you are no-doubt very busy, but if you could give us updates on your album from time to time that would be great!

Could you please name who a few of your personal favorite singers from over the years are?

I've been so broke the last several years that I haven't been able to ever by the Mecca CD, but it's on my list of future buys, along with the Pride Of Lions CD's. If Frankie is playing on the new album then that just gives me all the more incentive to get it as well.

by **IngoK** » Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:57 pm

Journey/Survivor wrote:I'm a huge fan of Jimi Jamison. He's my favorite singer of all time, and that's saying a hell of a lot since I'm a huge fan of Steve Perry, Lou Gramm, Dave Bickler and Joe Lynn Turner. Or for that matter Kevin Chalfant, Steve Augeri, Mike Reno, Paul Rodgers etc, etc.

I'm very excited that Jimi and Jim are working together, and I can't wait to hear their album when it comes out! Although I will be extremely let down if it sounds like a country album, country bores me to death, and at times drives me up a wall.

Part of the reson that I don't talk about Jamison very much is because it seems like there are way more Dave Bickler fans on this site than Jamison fans? I am a huge fan of both Jamison and Bickler, and I know there are others on here that are a fan of both. But it seems like there are a lot of people on here who like Bickler and don't like Jamison? So I don't bring up Jamo very often.

Don´t know if we could count out here if we have more Dave Bickler of Jamo Fans or if it would be useful to do. I for my part like Jimi more but Dave is close behind.

by **Slander** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:23 am

axecrew wrote:Ok slander I'll bite.......Do we hold Jim Peterik to the same standards as we hold Frankie? You of course better realize that the answer had better be Yes.
And if we do....then it's safe to say that Jim has creatively blown Frankie "Van Gogh" Sullivan out of the water in the last 5 or 6 years. Anyone who believes otherwise is either a fool or slander. Just so you won't have any problem with the facts....
Jim has done: 1 Solo album of new material
1 Re-mastered Solo Album from his original album in 1976
3 Pride of Lions albums of new material
1 Pride of Lions tribute EP concerning the bombings in Madrid(Song was "Black Ribbons")
1 Pride of Lions Live DVD/CD with bonus CD of new original material
1 Ides of March Live cd
1 Ides of March album with both new and olds songs on it.
Has written tons of songs with various artist,including .38 Special,Kip Winger,Kevin Chalfant,Tom Keifer,
Kelly Keagy,and others
Co-produced Kelly Keagy's new album I'm Alive

Frankie has done: 1 Survivor album( Of which Jim co-wrote songs for)
Produced new Mecca album
Now I haven't mentioned anything about live dates,but I think it's safe to say Jim plays more live dates than Survivor.

If I left anything out,please remind me.

Haven't heard the new Jamo song...don't care to for 1 reason...a lot of times the finished product is different than the Sneak Peaks on a website or myspace page.
I'll wait until it comes out in finished form.
1 question for Joe Vanna...How come your name is no longer on the ads for the melodicrock show in October? Are you no longer going to be there.

Well I'm glad my call for a response got people talkigng. This board has been dead! Hey axe you sound like you have an axe to grind with me and that's fine for whatever reason. I dare you to point out anywhere on the board where I have been critical of JP? Where? Why are you making this a dick measuring contest between JP and FS. It's stupid. Yes as far as more product JP has cranked it out. No doubt about it! He's is the winner. Having said that it is NOT safe to say JP plays more dates at all. I beleive Survivor plays more than JP or Jimi. Secondly FS has done more than just REACH. He worked on both Eddie Money's READY EDDIE album and Robin Mcualey's BUSINESS AS USUAL. By the way READY EDDIE is better than any of the above you best mentioned. I realize you will never give FS any credit but I'm surprised by the lack of knowledge you show about his involvement on other projects. I own all three POL albums. Some material on the POL albums also contained songs that were written for other Survivor albums so let's not get carried away by calling them "new material." I guess I really don't understand the point that you are trying to make here. I dig JP's stuff. I'm glad he cranks it out. Jamo hasn't done a solo record in years. I'm not going to knock him for doing it. I'm glad to hear he is in the studio. I will say this. Everything that Frankie does is quality! I admire that about him. I'm sorry you don't give the man credit where credit is due.

by **Slander** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:24 am

IngoK wrote:
Journey/Survivor wrote:I'm a huge fan of Jimi Jamison. He's my favorite singer of all time, and that's saying a hell of a lot since I'm a huge fan of Steve Perry, Lou Gramm, Dave Bickler and Joe Lynn Turner. Or for that matter Kevin Chalfant, Steve Augeri, Mike Reno, Paul Rodgers etc, etc.

I'm very excited that Jimi and Jim are working together, and I can't wait to hear their album when it comes out! Although I will be extremely let down if it sounds like a country album, country bores me to death, and at times drives me up a wall.

Part of the reson that I don't talk about Jamison very much is because it seems like there are way more Dave Bickler fans on this site than Jamison fans? I am a huge fan of both Jamison and Bickler, and I know there are others on here that are a fan of both. But it seems like there are a lot of people on here who like Bickler and don't like Jamison? So I don't bring up Jamo very often.

Don´t know if we could count out here if we have more Dave Bickler of Jamo Fans or if it would be useful to do. I for my part like Jimi more but Dave is close behind.

It's been my experience there are far more Jamo fans on the board.

by **Slander** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:29 am

Red13JoePa wrote:JV, nobody's asking Survivor to flood the market.

In the US, we just want an album.

Nobody here has walked into a record store and bought a brand new Survivor album since 1988.

Jeez Red! This is a JJ thread. Why you and axe want to turn this into a FS bashfest is beyond me. All I wanted was people's reaction to the new JJ song and instead we get more of the same.

by **Red13JoePa** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:38 am

You, er, I mean "JV" likended Survivor putting an album out so soon after Reach as flooding the market, i was just responding.

by **Joe Vana** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:40 am

Journey/Survivor wrote:Joe Vana,

Please feel free to post on here anytime you want, it's good to hear from you!

I know that you are no-doubt very busy, but if you could give us updates on your album from time to time that would be great!

Could you please name who a few of your personal favorite singers from over the years are?

I've been so broke the last several years that I haven't been able to ever by the Mecca CD, but it's on my list of future buys, along with the Pride Of Lions CD's. If Frankie is playing on the new album then that just gives me all the more incentive to get it as well.

Hey man...Thanks!!

This is a Jamo thread so I feel uncomfortable answering a bunch of stuff on his thread....you can start a different one and I can answer everything and keep you guys posted on that one.....

But...my favorite Singers over the years......hmmm...well here it goes...IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER.....Warren Wiebe (R.I.P), Richard Page (can sing ANYTHING), Peter Gabriel (For the emotional content of his vocals), Thom Griffin (for teaching me how to sing), Jamo, Dave, Mickey Thomas and Lou Gramm.

JV

by **Slander** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:47 am

Red13JoePa wrote:You, er, I mean "JV" likended Survivor putting an album out so soon after Reach as flooding the market, i was just responding.

So Red did you hear Come Dancing or not? I want your opinion on it. I think the music sounds great but it is a different direction for JJ.

by **Red13JoePa** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:00 am

Nope. Don't think I will hear the Jamo song.

by **NealIsGod** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:09 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Nope. Don't think I will hear the Jamo song.

Maybe he'll play it in South Bend.

Oh, yeah, you aren't going.

by **Slander** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:37 am

NealIsGod wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Nope. Don't think I will hear the Jamo song.

Maybe he'll play it in South Bend.

Oh, yeah, you aren't going.

Hey Neal what do you thing of the Jamo song? Just curious.

by **axecrew** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:58 am

Slander wrote:
axecrew wrote:Ok slander I'll bite.......Do we hold Jim Peterik to the same standards as we hold Frankie? You of course better realize that the answer had better be Yes.
And if we do....then it's safe to say that Jim has creatively blown Frankie "Van Gogh" Sullivan out of the water in the last 5 or 6 years. Anyone who believes otherwise is either a fool or slander. Just so you won't have any problem with the facts....
Jim has done: 1 Solo album of new material
1 Re-mastered Solo Album from his original album in 1976
3 Pride of Lions albums of new material
1 Pride of Lions tribute EP concerning the bombings in Madrid(Song was "Black Ribbons")
1 Pride of Lions Live DVD/CD with bonus CD of new original material
1 Ides of March Live cd
1 Ides of March album with both new and olds songs on it.
Has written tons of songs with various artist,including .38 Special,Kip Winger,Kevin Chalfant,Tom Keifer,
Kelly Keagy,and others
Co-produced Kelly Keagy's new album I'm Alive

Frankie has done: 1 Survivor album( Of which Jim co-wrote songs for)
Produced new Mecca album
Now I haven't mentioned anything about live dates,but I think it's safe to say Jim plays more live dates than Survivor.

If I left anything out,please remind me.

Haven't heard the new Jamo song...don't care to for 1 reason...a lot of times the finished product is different than the Sneak Peaks on a website or myspace page.
I'll wait until it comes out in finished form.
1 question for Joe Vanna...How come your name is no longer on the ads for the melodicrock show in October? Are you no longer going to be there.

Well I'm glad my call for a response got people talkigng. This board has been dead! Hey axe you sound like you have an axe to grind with me and that's fine for whatever reason. I dare you to point out anywhere on the board where I have been critical of JP? Where? Why are you making this a dick measuring contest between JP and FS. It's stupid. Yes as far as more product JP has cranked it out. No doubt about it! He's is the winner. Having said that it is NOT safe to say JP plays more dates at all. I beleive Survivor plays more than JP or Jimi. Secondly FS has done more than just REACH. He worked on both Eddie Money's READY EDDIE album and Robin Mcualey's BUSINESS AS USUAL. By the way READY EDDIE is better than any of the above you best mentioned. I realize you will never give FS any credit but I'm surprised by the lack of knowledge you show about his involvement on other projects. I own all three POL albums. Some material on the POL albums also contained songs that were written for other Survivor albums so let's not get carried away by calling them "new material." I guess I really don't understand the point that you are trying to make here. I dig JP's stuff. I'm glad he cranks it out. Jamo hasn't done a solo record in years. I'm not going to knock him for doing it. I'm glad to hear he is in the studio. I will say this. Everything that Frankie does is quality! I admire that about him. I'm sorry you don't give the man credit where credit is due.

Slander.....Did you not on Wed Sept 12th @ 11:22 am post above here the following....
You guys are bashing Frankie blah,blah,blah....we should hold Jimi to the same standards as he hasn't been very productive either...blah,blah,blah?
I then said that if that's so, then we should hold Peterik to the same standards right? Then I outlined what Jim has done,that I know of. This was my FIRST POST in this Thread.
I can't possibly know all that Jim has done,nor do I know all that Sullivan has done...I'm not in their hip pockets. You seem to have a lot more knowledge about the goings on of Frankie Sullivan than i do,that's fine.

I have no axe to grind with you....quite honestly I'd like to know where I said anything about you ripping Jim Peterik, 'cause I didn't never did.
No one said it was a dick measuring contest at all....you spoke in other post about jimi's lack of product and why people don't hold him to the same standard,I mearly stated that if you're going to do that then Jim should be included in that same standard. Yeah I recognized your thinly veiled attempt at a slap at Jimi,regardless of how you want to play it.
What you ,oh Champion of all things Sullivan, were trying to do is a backdoor slap at Jimi for not producing anymore new material then Sullivan has. All I did was even the playing field by pointing out that if you are going to do that then here's someone who would smoke your precious one. Maybe if you didn't outpost people 4 to 1 on here you could remember the details of some of your post.

I have no problem giving Frankie credit where credit is due....Frankie is a good guitar player,in my opinion there are many others that are better. Truth be known Frankie isn't that good of a songwriter,if he were people would be all over him to write with them,they aren't.
Frankie is an excellent producer and he really knows how to weave a melodic sound.
The truth is that in the beginning Frankie rode Jim's coattails,whether he will admit it or not. Without Jim's name and reputation, Frankie wouldn't have gotten anything. That's what got Survivor their first look.....JIM PETERIK from The Ides of March. Not Frank Sullivan local guitar player. Is it possible they would've made it w/out Jim's name? Maybe,but we'll never know.
As far as playing live....Slander.....how many dates has Survivor played in the last 2 years? Not scheduled dates..but actually shown up and played? Please find out,I'm sure you can since you're so close to Frankie. I'll find out how many The Ides of March/World Stage/POL have played.Then we'll compare OK?
You know..the way you come on here spouting the gospel according to Sullivan....makes one think you are paid by him.

by **NealIsGod** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:18 am

Slander wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Nope. Don't think I will hear the Jamo song.

Maybe he'll play it in South Bend.

Oh, yeah, you aren't going.

Hey Neal what do you thing of the Jamo song? Just curious.

Haven't heard it. You got a link?

by **Slander** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:27 am

[/quote]
Slander.....Did you not on Wed Sept 12th @ 11:22 am post above here the following....
You guys are bashing Frankie blah,blah,blah....we should hold Jimi to the same standards as he hasn't been very productive either...blah,blah,blah?
I then said that if that's so, then we should hold Peterik to the same standards right? Then I outlined what Jim has done,that I know of. This was my FIRST POST in this Thread.
I can't possibly know all that Jim has done,nor do I know all that Sullivan has done...I'm not in their hip pockets. You seem to have a lot more knowledge about the goings on of Frankie Sullivan than i do,that's fine.

I have no axe to grind with you....quite honestly I'd like to know where I said anything about you ripping Jim Peterik, 'cause I didn't never did.
No one said it was a dick measuring contest at all....you spoke in other post about jimi's lack of product and why people don't hold him to the same standard,I mearly stated that if you're going to do that then Jim should be included in that same standard. Yeah I recognized your thinly veiled attempt at a slap at Jimi,regardless of how you want to play it.
What you ,oh Champion of all things Sullivan, were trying to do is a backdoor slap at Jimi for not producing anymore new material then Sullivan has. All I did was even the playing field by pointing out that if you are going to do that then here's someone who would smoke your precious one. Maybe if you didn't outpost people 4 to 1 on here you could remember the details of some of your post.

I have no problem giving Frankie credit where credit is due....Frankie is a good guitar player,in my opinion there are many others that are better. Truth be known Frankie isn't that good of a songwriter,if he were people would be all over him to write with them,they aren't.
Frankie is an excellent producer and he really knows how to weave a melodic sound.
The truth is that in the beginning Frankie rode Jim's coattails,whether he will admit it or not. Without Jim's name and reputation, Frankie wouldn't have gotten anything. That's what got Survivor their first look.....JIM PETERIK from The Ides of March. Not Frank Sullivan local guitar player. Is it possible they would've made it w/out Jim's name? Maybe,but we'll never know.
As far as playing live....Slander.....how many dates has Survivor played in the last 2 years? Not scheduled dates..but actually shown up and played? Please find out,I'm sure you can since you're so close to Frankie. I'll find out how many The Ides of March/World Stage/POL have played.Then we'll compare OK?
You know..the way you come on here spouting the gospel according to Sullivan....makes one think you are paid by him.[/quote]

Wow where to begin. I wish I had some sort of relationship with Frankie but I don't. I just know what I hear and see. I really don't have anything bad to say about anyone. I just refuse to watch a talent like FS get trashed. It's friggin petty. When I first started posting on the board I couldn't believe the crap that was written about such a talented guy. Frankie's talents speak for themselves. I don't need to refute your opinions point by point. His guitar playing, song writing, and producing blow your arguments away.

I'm not a champion of FS. I am champion of Survivor. I follow all members. I want to know how I made a backdoor slap at JJ. I have called him a great vocalist. A nice person etc. All I want to do is talk about new music. JP and JJ just put out new music and you want to discuss FS. Quite frankley I don't get it. I eagerly await the JP-JJ release. I hope it rocks. I truly believe that Survivor has been playing more dates than JP. Once again what does that prove? Nothing. JP has put out more product. So what. Producing more product doesn't make one a better artist or person. I don't need JP's resume. I post here because I want to keep all things Survivor alive. What is wrong with that? It's called being a fan.

by **Slander** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 3:35 am

NealIsGod wrote:
Slander wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Nope. Don't think I will hear the Jamo song.

Maybe he'll play it in South Bend.

Oh, yeah, you aren't going.

Hey Neal what do you thing of the Jamo song? Just curious.

Haven't heard it. You got a link?

Hey Neal,

It's at Jimi's Myspace page. Here ya go:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =111071197

by **NealIsGod** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 5:35 am

Slander wrote:Hey Neal,

It's at Jimi's Myspace page. Here ya go:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =111071197

Niggy like.

MR

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