Great Stuff: New Frankie Sullivan Interview

[Slander]

Hey Gang,

Here is a recent article on Survivor. Frankie talks a little about the past and a little about the future. Good stuff. I think good stuff is on the horizon for these guys.

http://www.bryancountynews.net/news/article/1391/

http://www.bryancountynews.net/news/article/1417/

[Andrew]

Love Frankie, Love Survivor, Love Robin....but I'm still not convinced there will be a new album anytime soon or featuring Robin. More tour dates? Sure....but that's it - in MY opinion at least.

[IngoK]

Couldn´t say it better (ok, I do not love Frankie but I respect him). So at least only the future will tell us. Hopefully they move up their a.... and release a new album. Which, in my opinion, can be very good.

[Slander]

but I'm still not convinced there will be a new album anytime soon or featuring Robin. More tour dates? Sure....but that's it - in MY opinion at least.

Robin hints at new material in his interview so let's keep our fingers crossed. I thought Frankie's side of the story about the break up was interesting. As always there are two sides and somewhere I always believe the real story lies in the middle. Congrats again on MRFEST.

[Andrew]

As always there are two sides and somewhere I always believe the real story lies in the middle. Congrats again on MRFEST.

of course. The situation (for whatever reason) became unworkable.

Thanks for the comment regarding MRF...a true labor of love.

[Red13JoePa]

Jamision and Peterik PERFORMED at the fest while Frankie tried to stop the thing.

Such is the way it goes.

[Slander]

Jamision and Peterik PERFORMED at the fest while Frankie tried to stop the thing.

Such is the way it goes.

Frankie tried to stop MRFEST? What the hell are you talking about JOE?

[Red13JoePa]

Unless a "CEASE AND DECIST" order is a blessing to go ahead, I think Frankie tried to bring it to a screeching halt.

[Slander]

Unless a "CEASE AND DECIST" order is a blessing to go ahead, I think Frankie tried to bring it to a screeching halt.

Did it happen? Yeah I'm sure Frankie wanted to keep MRFEST from happening. That was the Master Plan. Yeah Frankie was Doctor Evil, rubbing his hands together, wondering how he could bring the thing to a halt. What a joke. MRFEST was a great event. I'm thrilled for Andrerw beyond belief but the idea that FS had something against the show was rediculous. All Frankie was trying to do was protect Survivor's name like anyone who owns a trademark would. Get over it. Let's move on.

[Red13JoePa]

[Joe Vana]

Unless a "CEASE AND DECIST" order is a blessing to go ahead, I think Frankie tried to bring it to a screeching halt.

It WAS NOT a "Cease and Desist" to stop the show....it WAS a "Cease and Desist" to stop the name "Survivor" from being used incorrectly....and since he OWNS the name, it is his right.

JV

[Red13JoePa]

My recall of the report was it was either stop saying "Survivor" PERIOD even IF it was "formerly of" or "the voice of" or else stop the show.

There was nothing, NOTHING wrong with factually stating as Andrew's pub did, that JP and JJ were "formerly of Survivor."

It IS the case that they are formerly of survivor.

Now if the report was wrong and the order was to cease and decist saying "survivor" in publicity, then how weak and childishly litigious is THAT anyway? It'd be different if JP and JJ were advertised as "Survivor" but that was NEVER EVER the case as I KNOW Andrew knows full well the difference.

Thanks for the lecture, though, Counselor Vana.

[Slander]

My recall of the report was it was either stop saying "Survivor" PERIOD even IF it was "formerly of" or "the voice of" or else stop the show.

There was nothing, NOTHING wrong with factually stating as Andrew's pub did, that JP and JJ were "formerly of Survivor."

It IS the case that they are formerly of survivor.

Now if the report was wrong and the order was to cease and decist saying "survivor" in publicity, then how weak and childishly litigious is THAT anyway? It'd be different if JP and JJ were advertised as "Survivor" but that was NEVER EVER the case as I KNOW Andrew knows full well the difference.

Thanks for the lecture, though, Counselor Vana.

JOPA do you need a history lesson? It is FS right to use the name. It is his trademark and he worked his ass of to keep it. FS wants to confusion at all. Need we go down this road again with JJ and the use of his name if he is no longer in the band? It just seems like common sense. Lou Gramm isn't tour as the ex-singer of Foreigner, he has his own damn band.

[axecrew]

My recall of the report was it was either stop saying "Survivor" PERIOD even IF it was "formerly of" or "the voice of" or else stop the show.

There was nothing, NOTHING wrong with factually stating as Andrew's pub did, that JP and JJ were "formerly of Survivor."

It IS the case that they are formerly of survivor.

Now if the report was wrong and the order was to cease and decist saying "survivor" in publicity, then how weak and childishly litigious is THAT anyway? It'd be different if JP and JJ were advertised as "Survivor" but that was NEVER EVER the case as I KNOW Andrew knows full well the difference.

Thanks for the lecture, though, Counselor Vana.

JOPA do you need a history lesson? It is FS right to use the name. It is his trademark and he worked his ass of to keep it. FS wants to confusion at all. Need we go down this road again with JJ and the use of his name if he is no longer in the band? It just seems like common sense. Lou Gramm isn't tour as the ex-singer of Foreigner, he has his own damn band.

Slander,slander,slander.....history does have a way of repeating itself doesn't it. FS sent a ceast and desist letter from his lawyers saying that the name Suvivor couldn't be used in ANY way during the advertising of the show. LEGALLY if JJ wanted to bill himself as Jimi Jamison of Survivor,there was nothing that FS could do,due to a court decision that he and JP lost back in the '90s.
All Andrew did was bill the appearance of Jim and Jimi as formerly of Survivor and say that they would be playing songs of Survivor.
FS went into a tizzy when he saw this and tried to stop the advertising,LEGALLY Andrew could have billed it as SURVIVOR featuring Jimi Jamison and special guest Jim Peterik formerly of Survivor.....but he didn't.
You want me to tell you what I think happened???? Good, then I will anyway...you won't like it though!!!
I think someone on this board is connected to Survivor in some way.....That person saw the ad and got in touch w/FS. He had his lawyers send out the letter.
Andrew came on here and blasted him for doing so, the people of this board collectively rose up in support of Andrew. The person on here saw this and got back in touch with his contact and told them that people were outraged,and that FS had stepped over the line and people were crucifying him on here. He went back and concocted some bs story about it being done with out his permission. BS you expect me to believe that FS,who controls every move made by the band,has a bunch of renegade lawyers who just act w/out consulting him? Please don't insult my intellegence like that.
Feel free to dispute any of what I said.

[Slander]

My recall of the report was it was either stop saying "Survivor" PERIOD even IF it was "formerly of" or "the voice of" or else stop the show.

There was nothing, NOTHING wrong with factually stating as Andrew's pub did, that JP and JJ were "formerly of Survivor."

It IS the case that they are formerly of survivor.

Now if the report was wrong and the order was to cease and decist saying "survivor" in publicity, then how weak and childishly litigious is THAT anyway? It'd be different if JP and JJ were advertised as "Survivor" but that was NEVER EVER the case as I KNOW Andrew knows full well the difference.

Thanks for the lecture, though, Counselor Vana.

JOPA do you need a history lesson? It is FS right to use the name. It is his trademark and he worked his ass of to keep it. FS wants to confusion at all. Need we go down this road again with JJ and the use of his name if he is no longer in the band? It just seems like common sense. Lou Gramm isn't tour as the ex-singer of Foreigner, he has his own damn band.

FS went into a tizzy when he saw this and tried to stop the advertising,LEGALLY Andrew could have billed it as SURVIVOR featuring Jimi Jamison and special guest Jim Peterik formerly of Survivor.....but he didn't.
You want me to tell you what I think happened???? Good, then I will anyway...you won't like it though!!!
I think someone on this board is connected to Survivor in some way.....That person saw the ad and got in touch w/FS. He had his lawyers send out the letter.
Andrew came on here and blasted him for doing so, the people of this board collectively rose up in support of Andrew. The person on here saw this and got back in touch with his contact and told them that people were outraged,and that FS had stepped over the line and people were crucifying him on here. He went back and concocted some bs story about it being done with out his permission. BS you expect me to believe that FS,who controls every move made by the band,has a bunch of renegade lawyers who just act w/out consulting him? Please don't insult my intellegence like that.
Feel free to dispute any of what I said.

Hey axecrew are you just making this up as you go or are you seeing a whole team of shrinks? You don't know what happened so why speculate? The show went off without a hitch. It was a great success for Andrew. I couldn't be happier for a guy who busts his ass to keep the genre alive. As far as FS he has every right to do what is necessary to protect his product. That's not personal it's just business. As I recall the whole incident in question lasted 24 hours!

[Joe Vana]

FS went into a tizzy when he saw this and tried to stop the advertising,LEGALLY Andrew could have billed it as SURVIVOR featuring Jimi Jamison and special guest Jim Peterik formerly of Survivor.....but he didn't.Please don't insult my intellegence like that.
Feel free to dispute any of what I said.

Hi Axecrew...

NO....JJ cannot promote himself as "Survivor" featuring Jimi Jamison.....I've NEVER met the guy, don't know him personally, only what many friends that dealt with him have told me....but I hold ALL opinions until I know him....and I don't....so I have have no "axe" to grind with him at all....all I know is that he was one of my favorite singers....EVER....an immense talent...

Besides that I cannot dispute any of your opinions....I am all for FREE SPEECH on this thing....

A trademark is a trademark.....it's why I spent 5 grand on my trademark issue.....

Have a great one dude ....sunny here in Chicago....

JV

[axecrew]

FS went into a tizzy when he saw this and tried to stop the advertising,LEGALLY Andrew could have billed it as SURVIVOR featuring Jimi Jamison and special guest Jim Peterik formerly of Survivor.....but he didn't.Please don't insult my intellegence like that.
Feel free to dispute any of what I said.

Hi Axecrew...

NO....JJ cannot promote himself as "Survivor" featuring Jimi Jamison.....I've NEVER met the guy, don't know him personally, only what many friends that dealt with him have told me....but I hold ALL opinions until I know him....and I don't....so I have have no "axe" to grind with him at all....all I know is that he was one of my favorite singers....EVER....an immense talent...

Besides that I cannot dispute any of your opinions....I am all for FREE SPEECH on this thing....

A trademark is a trademark.....it's why I spent 5 grand on my trademark issue.....

Have a great one dude ....sunny here in Chicago....

JV

Oh but he can joe....if you'll remember,JP and FS lost a court case against JJ where he was billing himself as Survivor featuring JJ. The judge in the case ruled that since Survivor had released those stupid GH albums and they were titled Survivor featuring Jimi Jamison and contained both his solo stuff and Survivor music that he could legally be billed as Survivor featuring Jimi Jamison. I know this for a fact because I provided Jim and Frankie a bootleg tape of Jimi performing and calling himself Survivor.Ask your boy Frankie about whether I'm right or not. Yes it was sunny here today..not many of those days left though with winter coming.

Slander,did I insult you? If so show me where.....so why do you feel the need to try an insult me?
I'm not speculating and yes I do know what happened....I was there and know a lot more than you about ALL of the goings on before, during and after the show. Including the actual planning of the show. Yes, I can speculate,I was trying to be nice about it,but what I said is the absolute truth. Ask your boy Frankie why Survivor wasn't invited to play. Wouldn't it have made sense for them a Chicago band to play a show so close to home. It can't be because they were busy....Frankie wasn't working that day with Joe..I saw Joe at the venue.
Regardless of if it lasted 24 hours,24 minutes or 24 days....Frankie got caught doing something objectionable by the fans and he was called out on it. Amazing how it wasn't a problem until he got carved up on here...remember Andrew had NO way of getting in touch w/FS. The phone number he had was bad. Funny how after he gets blasted on here Frankie has the presence of mind to call Andrew about it all. Question...If he didn't know about the letter,how did he know to call Andrew? Did his lawyers call him with the news of the letter and then like little children coming home with their grade school art project brag about what they did? I would hope FS has more professional people on retainer than that. I'll bet I know how he found out....don't I SLANDER?

[bulldog]

I think in all honesty the whole Survivor fiasco is ridiculous ! It was actually stupid to have quit and given up in the 1990's! Too Hot To Sleep was and is a great cd no doubt but that wasn't the radio friendly sound and the melodic soaring melodies that made them money !
Vital Signs and When Seconds Count at least made noise at pop radio and those are the songs that are still in rotation today. They had magic and they had radio friendly power . The whole trademark & copyright issues may have given Frankie the name Survivor but the true fans know what they do not hear or see anymore. When people put more effort into suing and worrying about trademarks etc .. that becomes more the priority. They should have just all burried the issues shook hands and tried to kick ass!
Survivor will never be what it was , But the tunes live on. These guys are into their mid fifties now .. Look at Loverboy and listen to their new cd it 150% rocks 1 Why couldn't they have done that?

[Slander]

:x I think in all honesty the whole Survivor fiasco is ridiculous ! It was actually stupid to have quit and given up in the 1990's! Too Hot To Sleep was and is a great cd no doubt but that wasn't the radio friendly sound and the melodic soaring melodies that made them money !
Vital Signs and When Seconds Count at least made noise at pop radio and those are the songs that are still in rotation today. They had magic and they had radio friendly power . The whole trademark & copyright issues may have given Frankie the name Survivor but the true fans know what they do not hear or see anymore. When people put more effort into suing and worrying about trademarks etc .. that becomes more the priority. They should have just all burried the issues shook hands and tried to kick ass!
Survivor will never be what it was , But the tunes live on. These guys are into their mid fifties now .. Look at Loverboy and listen to their new cd it 150% rocks 1 Why couldn't they have done that?

Who says they won't? You never know.

[Slander]

[/quote]
Slander,did I insult you? If so show me where.....so why do you feel the need to try an insult me?
I'm not speculating and yes I do know what happened....I was there and know a lot more than you about ALL of the goings on before, during and after the show. Including the actual planning of the show. Yes, I can speculate,I was trying to be nice about it,but what I said is the absolute truth. Ask your boy Frankie why Survivor wasn't invited to play. Wouldn't it have made sense for them a Chicago band to play a show so close to home. It can't be because they were busy....Frankie wasn't working that day with Joe..I saw Joe at the venue.
Regardless of if it lasted 24 hours,24 minutes or 24 days....Frankie got caught doing something objectionable by the fans and he was called out on it. Amazing how it wasn't a problem until he got carved up on here...remember Andrew had NO way of getting in touch w/FS. The phone number he had was bad. Funny how after he gets blasted on here Frankie has the presence of mind to call Andrew about it all. Question...If he didn't know about the letter,how did he know to call Andrew? Did his lawyers call him with the news of the letter and then like little children coming home with their grade school art project brag about what they did? I would hope FS has more professional people on retainer than that. I'll bet I know how he found out....don't I SLANDER?[/quote]

Got carved up? The whole thing lasted a day? Frankie can do what he wants and do what's in the best interest of HIS goup. Get over it axe. Damn someone's touchy. I speak for other fans who don't find what FS did objectionable. I'm glad it worked out for Andrew. Once again this isn't personal. You try to turn it into that everytime. Frankie Sullivan, Robin McAuley, Billy Ozello, Chris Grove, and Marc Doubay are Survivor! Get over it. What Frankie Sullivan does with it is his right. Just like you can rant and rave all you want no matter how misguided. It's a free country. In the meantime feel free to keep playing Columbo about an incident that is dead and buried. Knock yourself out axe.

[axecrew]

Ya know what Slander...I was going to respond in length to your last post,but I've changed my mind. I'm done with you....you are at best a bore. I'm tired of trying to have an intellegent conversation with you, all that happens is you continue to speal and toll the Frankie Sullivan company line. Never once have you been able to objectively get out from under your blatent addoration for frankie and respond in a manner that even remotely suggest objectivity.
Not once have you EVER stood up and said "Hey frankie was wrong and you guys are right." Not once. Goddamn he must be paying you good,or at least enough so that you don't want to lose the gravy train.....That's right little one...I know your real ID......lets just say I keyed in on it a while back.
So you go on with your worship and addulation of frankie and a band that hasn't been relative in oh..... 20 years. I'll remember the good ole' days when they were a BAND and not what they've become.
Hope the paycheck's worth it. Enjoy the music...in the end that's all you'll ever have....no mutual respect... nothing.....just another hand.

[Red13JoePa]

Andrew's pub never ever said that JJ and JP were "Survivor."

[Eyeof]

Is slander really....Joe Paterno????? Say it isn't so Joe...

[Red13JoePa]

Is slander really....Joe Paterno????? Say it isn't so Joe...

Dude, no I'm agreeing w/ you and The Crew on this.

Neither Drew nor JJ/JP were in the wrong to be publicized as being "Formerly of" and/or "Playing The Music Of Survivor."

It's the truth.

Frankie's like, trying to get something every time somebody says the world "Survivor."

[Slander]

Ya know what Slander...I was going to respond in length to your last post,but I've changed my mind. I'm done with you....you are at best a bore. I'm tired of trying to have an intellegent conversation with you, all that happens is you continue to speal and toll the Frankie Sullivan company line. Never once have you been able to objectively get out from under your blatent addoration for frankie and respond in a manner that even remotely suggest objectivity.
Not once have you EVER stood up and said "Hey frankie was wrong and you guys are right." Not once. Goddamn he must be paying you good,or at least enough so that you don't want to lose the gravy train.....That's right little one...I know your real ID......lets just say I keyed in on it a while back.
So you go on with your worship and addulation of frankie and a band that hasn't been relative in oh..... 20 years. I'll remember the good ole' days when they were a BAND and not what they've become.
Hope the paycheck's worth it. Enjoy the music...in the end that's all you'll ever have....no mutual respect... nothing.....just another hand.

Ya know this board is about as fair and balanced as Fox News Channel. I strived to bring a different point of view when I joined about a year ago. Hell even Joe Vana who I'm sure has better things to do with his time has even come on here to set the record straight but anyone who at all likes or defends FS is not welcome. I get that. I don't work for FS. I'm a fan who has followed the band for a long time. That's it! For axe to say that I have towed the company line is utter nonsense. I have been critical of FS many times on the board. I just to get personal about him. People read what they choose to read. Once again, Frankie can do whatever he wants with the band or the name. It's his right. He's earned it. As far as JJ touring calling himself Survivor or featuring Survivor. It's misleading at best. I could careless if a judge ruled in JJ's favor. That's not the issue. Just because something is legal doesn't make it ethical or right. Hell OJ is free. Need I go on about the court system. FS has every right to protect the Survivor name. I'm sorry you don't like it.

[Red13JoePa]

Hell even Joe Vana who I'm sure has better things to do with his time has even come on here to set the record straight

Ppppfffffffffff.

He's got no better things to do than anyone who posts here.

[Slander]

.
..... I'll remember the good ole' days when they were a BAND and not what they've become.

What they've become is a well oiled machine with the most entertaining front man they have ever had. I didn't say best singer I said entertainer. Here's to the future!

[Joe Vana]

Hell even Joe Vana who I'm sure has better things to do with his time has even come on here to set the record straight

Ppppfffffffffff.

He's got no better things to do than anyone who posts here.

Dude...you have 8,000 fucking posts on this thing...and I have 85.....at 8,000 posts plus, we all know what you do with your day....and you have NO fucking idea what I do with mine...

JV

[Red13JoePa]

Hell even Joe Vana who I'm sure has better things to do with his time has even come on here to set the record straight

Ppppfffffffffff.

He's got no better things to do than anyone who posts here.

Dude...you have 8,000 fucking posts on this thing...and I have 85.....at 8,000 posts plus, we all know what you do with your day....and you have NO fucking idea what I do with mine...

JV

Repeated, you have nothing more important to do than anyone who posts here.

[RockInDetroit]

Haven't read the Survivor board in a while. If I ever need to be entertained this is the place to come. Same people having the same arguments..great entertainment. Thanks guys.