Jim Peterik presents World Stage '08

[axecrew]

Went to Jim's latest installment of World Stage last night.......Wow what a show!!!! Jim really changed things up a bit this time. He brought in some brand new acts and some old favorites. He took the night into a different direction with some of the acts and as always it brought the house down. They started the night with everyone on stage as always for the song "World Stage" then Jim did "Live Life" from his solo album. After that he brought out Toby and they did a short 3 song set of Pride of Lions stuff all from the 1st album. Next came Lisa McLowery who did a song that her and Jim wrote,it was/is in a very jazz rock vein...very cool.Next was a guy by the name of Nick Colione....a jazz guitarist/vocalist.....this guy smoked big time!!!! Next was Jim's world stage/nightranger guitarist Joel Hokestra who did an instrumental from his album. Jim then brought up his son Colin and his band Lobster Newburg. Closing out the 1st half of the show was former Deep Purple/Rainbow vocalist Joe Lynn Turner,He brought the house down with "Sone Cold","Street of Dreams",and finally "Highway Star".
The 2nd half of the show started with Jim and his current/old band The Ides of March. They did a couple of songs of which of course one was "Vehicle". But this wasn't an ordinary version as Jim brought out some guest ,such as, Joe Lynn Turner and Nick Colione.
Next was Anthony Gomes, who's been a staple at World Stage for a few years now. After that Jim started to describe the next guy as a guy who was new to World Stage and someone who he had shared the stage with, riding busses and just having fun. He talked about how they were friends and then went their seperate ways for a while,then re-connected at a benefit a little over a year ago and the magic was still there. He talked about missing this guy's friendship and his passion for the music.....of course he was talking about Jimi Jamison. They then did "High on You", Search is Over" and "I Can't Hold Back". To answer the question that evryone is going to ask.......Jimi's voice was in great shape and he sounded like he did in '85 just older.
Last was Don Barnes of 38 Special....They played "Fantasy Girl" (My favorite), "Caught Up In You","Hold On Loosely" and closed the show with"Rockin' Into The Night"....They all came back and did "Eye Of The Tiger" with Jim and Jimi trading lead vocals.
All and all a great evening as always. I did get a chance to talk to Jim and Jimi after the show and the conversation was very interesting. We talked about the Melodicrock show back in October and a handful of other topics. They both did say they had never seen the show that Slander has posted from '87 in Japan. They in fact didn't even know it exsisted. I did tell Jimi about the "interesting" conversations on this board and that he should read some of it. He told me he would be reading it in the near future.

[Slander]

I did get a chance to talk to Jim and Jimi after the show and the conversation was very interesting. We talked about the Melodicrock show back in October and a handful of other topics.

Did JP talk about a jazz record at all?

[axecrew]

I did get a chance to talk to Jim and Jimi after the show and the conversation was very interesting. We talked about the Melodicrock show back in October and a handful of other topics.

Did JP talk about a jazz record at all?

Slander.....to me no. It never came up after the show, but he did mention it during the show. When he was introducing Lisa McLowery, he mentioned he was doing a jazz record. In fact the way he put it was.....He didn't want to upset his rock fans,but he was currently working on a new jazz album. I assume that the song they did will be on there. It is a modern jazz sound,not unlike say a George Benson style. While Jim's line was funny....he was outdone by Nick Colione....during his set he was talking to the crowd and ask if it was ok if he brought the mood down a little bit. The crowd responded yes and he said he couldn't hear them....they responded again and he said..."Good 'cause I was going to do it anyway." Funny stuff.

We(Jimi and I) talked about the interview on here(Said he doesn't remember what all he said,but he just told the truth.) and we talked about different producers and the quality of their work. We talked about a number of different topics from music to photos to computers etc. I'm sure we'll talk more later.

[Journey/Survivor]

Went to Jim's latest installment of World Stage last night.......Wow what a show!!!! Jim really changed things up a bit this time. He brought in some brand new acts and some old favorites. He took the night into a different direction with some of the acts and as always it brought the house down. They started the night with everyone on stage as always for the song "World Stage" then Jim did "Live Life" from his solo album. After that he brought out Toby and they did a short 3 song set of Pride of Lions stuff all from the 1st album. Next came Lisa McLowery who did a song that her and Jim wrote,it was/is in a very jazz rock vein...very cool.Next was a guy by the name of Nick Colione....a jazz guitarist/vocalist.....this guy smoked big time!!!! Next was Jim's world stage/nightranger guitarist Joel Hokestra who did an instrumental from his album. Jim then brought up his son Colin and his band Lobster Newburg. Closing out the 1st half of the show was former Deep Purple/Rainbow vocalist Joe Lynn Turner,He brought the house down with "Sone Cold","Street of Dreams",and finally "Highway Star".
The 2nd half of the show started with Jim and his current/old band The Ides of March. They did a couple of songs of which of course one was "Vehicle". But this wasn't an ordinary version as Jim brought out some guest ,such as, Joe Lynn Turner and Nick Colione.
Next was Anthony Gomes, who's been a staple at World Stage for a few years now. After that Jim started to describe the next guy as a guy who was new to World Stage and someone who he had shared the stage with, riding busses and just having fun. He talked about how they were friends and then went their seperate ways for a while,then re-connected at a benefit a little over a year ago and the magic was still there. He talked about missing this guy's friendship and his passion for the music.....of course he was talking about Jimi Jamison. They then did "High on You", Search is Over" and "I Can't Hold Back". To answer the question that evryone is going to ask.......Jimi's voice was in great shape and he sounded like he did in '85 just older.
Last was Don Barnes of 38 Special....They played "Fantasy Girl" (My favorite), "Caught Up In You","Hold On Loosely" and closed the show with"Rockin' Into The Night"....They all came back and did "Eye Of The Tiger" with Jim and Jimi trading lead vocals.
All and all a great evening as always. I did get a chance to talk to Jim and Jimi after the show and the conversation was very interesting. We talked about the Melodicrock show back in October and a handful of other topics. They both did say they had never seen the show that Slander has posted from '87 in Japan. They in fact didn't even know it exsisted. I did tell Jimi about the "interesting" conversations on this board and that he should read some of it. He told me he would be reading it in the near future.

Thanks for the review, some interesting stuff there.

But I must point this out....

Hey Jimi, I gave you a copy of that 1987 concert on a VHS tape back about 10 years ago!!!

Jimi gave me his P.O. Box number about 10 to 12 years ago, and I sent him several VHS tapes of concerts and interviews, plus magazine reviews and articles about his career. The next time I saw him he said that he had gotten the stuff I sent him, and that he checked it all out. That concert was one of the things I sent him.

[Slander]

Went to Jim's latest installment of World Stage last night.......Wow what a show!!!! Jim really changed things up a bit this time. He brought in some brand new acts and some old favorites. He took the night into a different direction with some of the acts and as always it brought the house down. They started the night with everyone on stage as always for the song "World Stage" then Jim did "Live Life" from his solo album. After that he brought out Toby and they did a short 3 song set of Pride of Lions stuff all from the 1st album. Next came Lisa McLowery who did a song that her and Jim wrote,it was/is in a very jazz rock vein...very cool.Next was a guy by the name of Nick Colione....a jazz guitarist/vocalist.....this guy smoked big time!!!! Next was Jim's world stage/nightranger guitarist Joel Hokestra who did an instrumental from his album. Jim then brought up his son Colin and his band Lobster Newburg. Closing out the 1st half of the show was former Deep Purple/Rainbow vocalist Joe Lynn Turner,He brought the house down with "Sone Cold","Street of Dreams",and finally "Highway Star".
The 2nd half of the show started with Jim and his current/old band The Ides of March. They did a couple of songs of which of course one was "Vehicle". But this wasn't an ordinary version as Jim brought out some guest ,such as, Joe Lynn Turner and Nick Colione.
Next was Anthony Gomes, who's been a staple at World Stage for a few years now. After that Jim started to describe the next guy as a guy who was new to World Stage and someone who he had shared the stage with, riding busses and just having fun. He talked about how they were friends and then went their seperate ways for a while,then re-connected at a benefit a little over a year ago and the magic was still there. He talked about missing this guy's friendship and his passion for the music.....of course he was talking about Jimi Jamison. They then did "High on You", Search is Over" and "I Can't Hold Back". To answer the question that evryone is going to ask.......Jimi's voice was in great shape and he sounded like he did in '85 just older.
Last was Don Barnes of 38 Special....They played "Fantasy Girl" (My favorite), "Caught Up In You","Hold On Loosely" and closed the show with"Rockin' Into The Night"....They all came back and did "Eye Of The Tiger" with Jim and Jimi trading lead vocals.
All and all a great evening as always. I did get a chance to talk to Jim and Jimi after the show and the conversation was very interesting. We talked about the Melodicrock show back in October and a handful of other topics. They both did say they had never seen the show that Slander has posted from '87 in Japan. They in fact didn't even know it exsisted. I did tell Jimi about the "interesting" conversations on this board and that he should read some of it. He told me he would be reading it in the near future.

Thanks for the review, some interesting stuff there.

But I must point this out....

Hey Jimi, I gave you a copy of that 1987 concert on a VHS tape back about 10 years ago!!!

Jimi gave me his P.O. Box number about 10 to 12 years ago, and I sent him several VHS tapes of concerts and interviews, plus magazine reviews and articles about his career. The next time I saw him he said that he had gotten the stuff I sent him, and that he checked it all out. That concert was one of the things I sent him.

Would someone please get JJ his copy of REACH damn it!

[Slander]

Slander.....to me no. It never came up after the show, but he did mention it during the show. When he was introducing Lisa McLowery, he mentioned he was doing a jazz record. In fact the way he put it was.....He didn't want to upset his rock fans,but he was currently working on a new jazz album. I assume that the song they did will be on there. It is a modern jazz sound,not unlike say a George Benson style. While Jim's line was funny....he was outdone by Nick Colione....during his set he was talking to the crowd and ask if it was ok if he brought the mood down a little bit. The crowd responded yes and he said he couldn't hear them....they responded again and he said..."Good 'cause I was going to do it anyway." Funny stuff.

We(Jimi and I) talked about the interview on here(Said he doesn't remember what all he said,but he just told the truth.) and we talked about different producers and the quality of their work. We talked about a number of different topics from music to photos to computers etc. I'm sure we'll talk more later.

Thanks axe. I do look forward to the new jazz cd. No doubt, JP is very versatile. I'm glad you talked to JJ. He is very approachable. I hope we can make this board more about music instead of infighting. It's just a hope I have.

[Red13JoePa]

Would someone please get JJ his copy of REACH damn it!

That's Sullivan's job and he didn't do it.

So AxeCrew, DoubleJ stood by all his comments in the recent interview, huh?

[Slander]

Would someone please get JJ his copy of REACH damn it!

That's Sullivan's job and he didn't do it.

So AxeCrew, DoubleJ stood by all his comments in the recent interview, huh?

LOL. It's FS job to buy JJ a copy of Reach? LOL.

[Red13JoePa]

No how about merely ensuring he and all band members get paid and a complimentary copy of the album?

You'll tell anybody who'll listen it's his band.
Do the right thing by people and you maybe you won't lose one of the premier rock vocalists of all time in Jamison.

[Slander]

No how about merely ensuring he and all band members get paid and a complimentary copy of the album?

You'll tell anybody who'll listen it's his band.
Do the right thing by people and you maybe you won't lose one of the premier rock vocalists of all time in Jamison.

LOL. JJ is a smart guy. I doubt he suckered or was a victim of anything. Listen JJ was sharp enough to take the name Survivor and tour with it.

[Red13JoePa]

I love your warped view that because Jamison is a grown man then it is OK for him to be rearended over and over again by sullivan.

[Slander]

I love your warped view that because Jamison is a grown man then it is OK for him to be rearended over and over again by sullivan.

I give JJ credit for being an adult. He's capable of taking care of himself. I also give him credit for being smart enough not to be rearended by anyone.

[axecrew]

Would someone please get JJ his copy of REACH damn it!

That's Sullivan's job and he didn't do it.

So AxeCrew, DoubleJ stood by all his comments in the recent interview, huh?

100% when I mentioned that there were some who felt he should've been a better business man, he looked at me and said Shit and I thought I could trust his damn ass.

[Slander]

Would someone please get JJ his copy of REACH damn it!

That's Sullivan's job and he didn't do it.

So AxeCrew, DoubleJ stood by all his comments in the recent interview, huh?

100% when I mentioned that there were some who felt he should've been a better business man, he looked at me and said Shit and I thought I could trust his damn ass.

I don't doubt he said that.

[Red13JoePa]

Would someone please get JJ his copy of REACH damn it!

That's Sullivan's job and he didn't do it.

So AxeCrew, DoubleJ stood by all his comments in the recent interview, huh?

100% when I mentioned that there were some who felt he should've been a better business man, he looked at me and said Shit and I thought I could trust his damn ass.

Well, generally you can trust someone with whom you've been in business with for years.
If things work according to bylaws of common decency you sort of have the luxury of taking for granted that you will be paid for performing lead vocals on the album of a band you're the singer for.

One shouldn't HAVE to be challenged to sue for that kind of thing.

[Slander]

Would someone please get JJ his copy of REACH damn it!

That's Sullivan's job and he didn't do it.

So AxeCrew, DoubleJ stood by all his comments in the recent interview, huh?

100% when I mentioned that there were some who felt he should've been a better business man, he looked at me and said Shit and I thought I could trust his damn ass.

Well, generally you can trust someone with whom you've been in business with for years.
If things work according to bylaws of common decency you sort of have the luxury of taking for granted that you will be paid for performing lead vocals on the album of a band you're the singer for.

One shouldn't HAVE to be challenged to sue for that kind of thing.

Kind of like taking a Brand Name like Survivor and touring with it without permission? Yeah trust is a bitch isn't it? Common decency is a bitch isn't it? Spare me.

[Red13JoePa]

Well, generally you can trust someone with whom you've been in business with for years.
If things work according to bylaws of common decency you sort of have the luxury of taking for granted that you will be paid for performing lead vocals on the album of a band you're the singer for.

One shouldn't HAVE to be challenged to sue for that kind of thing.

Kind of like taking a Brand Name like Survivor and touring with it without permission?

Hm.
Yea.
That before or after the court found that Jamison had the right to do so?

[axecrew]

Would someone please get JJ his copy of REACH damn it!

That's Sullivan's job and he didn't do it.

So AxeCrew, DoubleJ stood by all his comments in the recent interview, huh?

100% when I mentioned that there were some who felt he should've been a better business man, he looked at me and said Shit and I thought I could trust his damn ass.

Well, generally you can trust someone with whom you've been in business with for years.
If things work according to bylaws of common decency you sort of have the luxury of taking for granted that you will be paid for performing lead vocals on the album of a band you're the singer for.

One shouldn't HAVE to be challenged to sue for that kind of thing.

Kind of like taking a Brand Name like Survivor and touring with it without permission? Yeah trust is a bitch isn't it? Common decency is a bitch isn't it? Spare me.

Especially when you sue and lose.
BTW Joe Vana.......any luck on finding that link for the decision where the court reversed and told Jimi that he couldn't use the name anymore? Or maybe you could just scan the copy you have and post it. That shouldn't be to hard to do. It would sure shed some light on the whole thing. Not to mention put it to bed once and for all.

[Slander]

Well, generally you can trust someone with whom you've been in business with for years.
If things work according to bylaws of common decency you sort of have the luxury of taking for granted that you will be paid for performing lead vocals on the album of a band you're the singer for.

One shouldn't HAVE to be challenged to sue for that kind of thing.

Kind of like taking a Brand Name like Survivor and touring with it without permission?

Hm.
Yea.
That before or after the court found that Jamison had the right to do so?

Even if the court had found JJ to be right in this case would it still make it right? The answer is no. It's about ethics and doing what is right. Our court system isn't the end all be all is it?

[Red13JoePa]

I'm blown away, seriously, by your last post, SMan.

[Eyeof]

But Slander...

Frankie is a grown man and way to smart to get 'rearended' by anyone...

And by the way...legally...yes...it's the end all be all...

Of course, how could an impartial judge make near as sound a decision as you.....

[Red13JoePa]

But Slander...

how could an impartial judge make near as sound a decision as you.....

Now, there you go again, EyeOf.

[axecrew]

Well, generally you can trust someone with whom you've been in business with for years.
If things work according to bylaws of common decency you sort of have the luxury of taking for granted that you will be paid for performing lead vocals on the album of a band you're the singer for.

One shouldn't HAVE to be challenged to sue for that kind of thing.

Kind of like taking a Brand Name like Survivor and touring with it without permission?

Hm.
Yea.
That before or after the court found that Jamison had the right to do so?

Even if the court had found JJ to be right in this case would it still make it right? The answer is no. It's about ethics and doing what is right. Our court system isn't the end all be all is it?

Sort of like paying for services rendered....Ya know why you get hammered evrytime you bring this up.....because you refuse to even consider that it could've happened exactly the way it has been presented.Look at the facts,Jimi has gone on recordwith his story,frankie refuses to even acknowledge it. Please don't insult my intellegence by saying that frankie is above all this etc,and doesn't need to respond to frivilous accusations etc. The man has been accused by a former band member of ripping him off of 1000's of dollars. Don't tell me that he's above all that and won't respond because he's too classy,this is the same guy who tried to shut down Andrew's gig because he used the name Survivor in a print ad for the show,then when got hammered with the backlash,tried to soft-peddle the whole thing. So you're telling me that he would send a cease and desist order about the name in an ad for a show(Something pretty petty),but ignore an accusation by a former band mamber that he stole 1000's of dollars from him???? Like I said please don't insult my intellegence.

[Slander]

...Ya know why you get hammered evrytime you bring this up.....because you refuse to even consider that it could've happened exactly the way it has been presented.Look at the facts,Jimi has gone on recordwith his story,frankie refuses to even acknowledge it. Like I said please don't insult my intellegence.

Axe I really don't mind the debate. I could careless if I get "hammered" as you put it. I do acknowledge that in business there are two sides to every story. I do believe that JJ feels things went down as he said. I think he is sincere. That doesn't mean it is reality. As far as FS he considers this fiction I'm sure. I'm not trying to insult your intelligence but merely present the case that the situation isn't as clear cut as you say it is. I have no dog in this fight. I for one want to get past this. I like talking music. I appreciate the info on JP's jazz album. That is constructive. I certainly hope the board is moving in that direction. Calling FS a douchebag or whatever as someone did in an earlier post not only hurts their argumentation but hurts the "vibe" on the board. Let's keep it positive.

[Red13JoePa]

Calling FS a douchebag or whatever as someone did in an earlier post not only hurts their argumentation but hurts the "vibe" on the board. Let's keep it positive.

Ah, yes.
That would be St John.

AxeCrew raises a valid question.
If fs is above dignifying the serious allegations levied by Jamison then why go around firing off cease and decists over far more trivial and seemingly benign harmless things such as merely using the indisputeably factual words "Jami Jamison And Jim Peterik performing the songs of Survivor" in promotional literature for a benefit concert?

[Slander]

Calling FS a douchebag or whatever as someone did in an earlier post not only hurts their argumentation but hurts the "vibe" on the board. Let's keep it positive.

Ah, yes.
That would be St John.

AxeCrew raises a valid question.
If fs is above dignifying the serious allegations levied by Jamison then why go around firing off cease and decists over far more trivial and seemingly benign harmless things such as merely using the indisputeably factual words "Jami Jamison And Jim Peterik performing the songs of Survivor" in promotional literature for a benefit concert?

Gee, I don't know maybe it's his trademark and it's his right to do with it what he wants. There's a wild and crazy thought. Hmmm I've spent 30 years of my life creating something and maybe just maybe he's protective of it. I'll be honest with JJ touring singing Survivor songs and JP doing the same thing I don't see anything wrong with FS wanting to make it clear who the "real" Survivor is. What is wrong with that? It also helps to clarify for people that when they go to see JJ or JP they are not going to be seeing the group Survivor.

[Red13JoePa]

I don't see anything wrong with FS wanting to make it clear who the "real" Survivor is.

That seems to be open to some debate, cease and decists be damned.
A solid logical case can be made that as far as bandmenbers go, Peterik and Jamison are just as much, if not MORE Survivor than McSurvivor is right now (with frankie and Droubay).

[Eyeof]

I think it should be clairified that when you go see the quite riot sounding McSurvivor you aren't going to see Survivor either...give me a break...

There are just as many original Survivor members in Pride of Lions as there are in 'mc'Survivor...

There are just as many original members of Survivor singing budlight ads, as there are in what you call Survivor...

I bet would bet you anythimg that the average fan would find for resemblence in JJ and JP playing together to what they think Survivor is, than in McSurvivor...

Please...four guys played on the original track of "I Can't Hold Back"...

Two of those performed together at World Stage doing the song....and two of them performed it together at the last McSurvivor 'real' lineup show...

I ask you this guys, which do you think sounded more like the "REAL" deal? Which do you think sounded better?

I've said all along...I have nothing against McAuley and if he wants to push to replace the great, late Kevin DeBrow...I'll be his biggest advocate...but him in Survivor, make Pride of Lions even sound good...

[Slander]

I don't see anything wrong with FS wanting to make it clear who the "real" Survivor is.

That seems to be open to some debate, cease and decists be damned.
A solid logical case can be made that as far as bandmenbers go, Peterik and Jamison are just as much, if not MORE Survivor than McSurvivor is right now (with frankie and Droubay).

Frankie owns the name. Get over it.

[Eyeof]

Exactly Red...