Cool Old Survivor Band Pictures

[Slander]

I apologize if this is a re post but check out these old Survivor pics! Great stuff.

http://www.chord-and-sorcery.com/music/ ... index.html

[Journey/Survivor]

I apologize if this is a re post but check out these old Survivor pics! Great stuff.

http://www.chord-and-sorcery.com/music/ ... index.html

Yeah, that's some cool stuff. Thanks for posting that!

Funny thing, just last night I had a dream that I was in some kind of store that sells all kinds of stuff like books, magazines, CD's, DVD's etc, etc. And in the dream I'm looking through a bunch of stuff and I came across about ten different Survivor posters. Most of the posters were from the 1980's, but one of them was a late 90's Fire Makes Steel poster with Dave, Frankie, Marc, Stephan and Chris on it.

In real life there used to be a really great record and CD store near me that always had all of the walls and celling completely covered with posters of Rock bands. In the mid 80's a friend of mine who is also a Survivor fan discovered the store before I did, and he was able to buy most of the Survivor posters that the store had. But in 1988 I went in the store right after Too Hot To Sleep came out, I saw that they had the THTS poster on the wall, so I asked if I could buy it. As it turns out the guy had 2 copies of it, so he sold me one that was in the store-room. A couple of years later the store had an Eye Of The Tiger poster, and when I asked the guy if I could buy it, he just gave me it. And then maybe a few years after that I found some THTS flats, or whatever their called, so I bought those.

A lot of the posters that my buddy had bought were some cool group photo posters from the Vital Signs and When Seconds Count era, but he also had a couple from the Caught In The Game era.

Another store near me used to have a bunch of Survivor bumper stickers, they didn't say Eye Of The Tiger on them, but they were clearly from that time period. Besides the Survivor logo they also had 2 tiger drawings on them, but not the tiger drawing from the EOTT cover.

I once found and bought a Survivor "Going The Distance" tour backstage pass at a record convention.

Damn, did I wind up going off topic.

[silvergirl66]

great pix but they need some of Dave in there too.

[Eyeof]

Slander that wasn't you that wrote all those captions about JJ was it? I didn't know you were such a fan....ha

[Eyeof]

Did they actually say...three bottons from Heaven...my gosh....

[silvergirl66]

did you notice how widdle jimi looks in this pic next to steph?

http://www.chord-and-sorcery.com/music/ ... vor02.html

Stephan, LOL

http://www.chord-and-sorcery.com/music/ ... vor14.html

[Slander]

Slander that wasn't you that wrote all those captions about JJ was it? I didn't know you were such a fan....ha

No Eye!

[waterdragon687]

I'm the owner of the site Slander linked to. For whatever it's worth to you lot, I'm female, and Chord & Sorcery is and has always been intended for a predominately female audience. The captions on the pics in my galleries--ALL my galleries, incidentally, which include a variety of 80's-era bands and artists--are my opinions/comments on them, nothing more.

And yes, I am a devoted, unashamed, slobbering fan of Jimi Jamison, both musically and in a less-than-artistic sense. If that makes you roll your eyes, or you think my taste sucks because I really don't care about Survivor-as-a-band except for the periods that Jimi spent with them (which is why there's no Dave stuff in my galleries), then perhaps you ought to find a different site to visit, because there is (and will continue to be) an awful lot of drooling to wade through at mine.

--WD

[Red13JoePa]

Good for you, WD.

Jamison's my nomination for #1 AOR rock vocalist of all-time and I won't rip you for pix.

Very cool to see as I'd never laid eyes on most of them before.

[silvergirl66]

oh comeon we were just jokin around!

[Journey/Survivor]

I'm the owner of the site Slander linked to. For whatever it's worth to you lot, I'm female, and Chord & Sorcery is and has always been intended for a predominately female audience. The captions on the pics in my galleries--ALL my galleries, incidentally, which include a variety of 80's-era bands and artists--are my opinions/comments on them, nothing more.

And yes, I am a devoted, unashamed, slobbering fan of Jimi Jamison, both musically and in a less-than-artistic sense. If that makes you roll your eyes, or you think my taste sucks because I really don't care about Survivor-as-a-band except for the periods that Jimi spent with them (which is why there's no Dave stuff in my galleries), then perhaps you ought to find a different site to visit, because there is (and will continue to be) an awful lot of drooling to wade through at mine.

--WD

Yeah, it was pretty obvious from your comments on each picture that your either female or a gay guy. I fully assumed that your female.

Jimi is my #1 favorite singer of all time, and I know him semi-well, he's a great guy! But you should give the Dave Bickler era a good listen too, he's a pretty damn good singer as well.

I've seen many of those photos that you have posted in the past, but there's also a lot that I had never seen before. Thanks for posting them!

Difference between guys and girls, as soon as I saw the picture of Jimi from behind in the tight pants I thought to myself "I could definitely do without seeing that," whereas you and probably a lot of other women like it. But, hey, I'll admit that if it was a picture of Britney Spears from about five years ago and she was wearing tight pants I would love it.

[IngoK]

I'm the owner of the site Slander linked to. For whatever it's worth to you lot, I'm female, and Chord & Sorcery is and has always been intended for a predominately female audience. The captions on the pics in my galleries--ALL my galleries, incidentally, which include a variety of 80's-era bands and artists--are my opinions/comments on them, nothing more.

And yes, I am a devoted, unashamed, slobbering fan of Jimi Jamison, both musically and in a less-than-artistic sense. If that makes you roll your eyes, or you think my taste sucks because I really don't care about Survivor-as-a-band except for the periods that Jimi spent with them (which is why there's no Dave stuff in my galleries), then perhaps you ought to find a different site to visit, because there is (and will continue to be) an awful lot of drooling to wade through at mine.

--WD

Like your collection. Some really rare pics there I never saw before. Thanks.

[Eyeof]

darn...i really thought it was slander....

as for WD...try visiting www.getafuckingsenseofhumor.com....you might find something there you need....

[MarcelJordan]

Those were great pics. Yet, I must say the BEST pic is not the selection. The promo pic of Survivor with DB in the back sleeve of the EOTT album.

[silvergirl66]

oh very sparkly That's my fav pic.

[Slander]

Those were great pics. Yet, I must say the BEST pic is not the selection. The promo pic of Survivor with DB in the back sleeve of the EOTT album.

This is how I will always remember Survivor. Tough and Gritty. Screw the WHEN SECONDS COUNT promo shoot. This pic is what THEY WERE NOT.

[Eyeof]

You damn right Slander...that's a tough band right there...38 Special, not Duran Duran....

[bulldog]

They may have looked tough and street but the hits came after Eye Of The Tiger .. Management promoted them as a pop band and that is when the money started pouring in . Like I have said many times they may have hated to look like a pop band but you never rock the boat when it hits . They had many more promo 45's and radio airplay.
The camera has always been kind to Jamo.

If Survivor was promoted more in the vein of say Eddie Money and had crossover singles from aor and pop charts it may have made a huge difference in their staying power.

[Slander]

They may have looked tough and street but the hits came after Eye Of The Tiger .. Management promoted them as a pop band and that is when the money started pouring in . Like I have said many times they may have hated to look like a pop band but you never rock the boat when it hits . They had many more promo 45's and radio airplay.
The camera has always been kind to Jamo.

If Survivor was promoted more in the vein of say Eddie Money and had crossover singles from aor and pop charts it may have made a huge difference in their staying power.

Oh here we go with the revisionist history. When Seconds Count Killed the band. Get over it. JJ was great on Vital Signs. The band was doing just fine with Bickler. Gimme A Break. The philosophy and origins of the band are more with Tiger than WSC. Don't kid yourself. This band isn't friggin' Glass Tiger.

[Slander]

The camera has always been kind to Jamo.

Please! Regardless the band's philosophy was tough, gritty, and street. It's that sound that caught the ear of Sylvester Stallone! It wasn't "Is This Love." That tough gritty sound from Premontion paved the way for Tiger. Don't forget that! Without the origins of the band there would be no JJ. I mean no disrespect. Target and Cobra were fine bands they just didn't hit it big. Not even with JJ being oh so photogenic.

[Slander]

You damn right Slander...that's a tough band right there...38 Special, not Duran Duran....

I think we make a mistake by not thinking the band's image hurt especially in the mid-eighties. Guys ran away and droves! Hell all my guy friends had Caught In The Game. None bought When Seconds Count.

[MarcelJordan]

Well I look at things that what was done, was done! We will never know how things would have panned out, especially when it didn't help that Scotti were lackadasical to promoting the band.

That said, why didnt Scotti Bros put in Burning Heart in WSC. Probably chickened out!

Wrt WSC, back in the day one of my girl friends pleaded with me to let her borrow WSC. I promptly gave the CD without another thought. Told her to keep it, and out of my sight! True story.

[Eyeof]

Who the hell cares about hits and 45's or how JJ looks on a camera? I guess some do, but I sure as hell don't. Hell the Hooters had more hits than Survivor, as did Tears for Fears and the Thompson Twins. That doesn't mean anything to me in terms of what I want to hear in a band. There two biggest hits (by far) are Tiger and Burning Heart, and most likely Tiger sold more than all the pop hits combined, but to be honest, I would think no less of the bands work if they never had a hit. Sure "Is This Love" was a hit...but is it pure coinsidence that it was their LAST hit...

[Slander]

Sure "Is This Love" was a hit...but is it pure coinsidence that it was their LAST hit...

I couldn't agree more EYE. I'll say it again: It was there tough, gritty, edge, street sound that paved the way. Not vide versa! This at its core was a rock band! Not an adult contemporary hit machine. Yes JJ looks great on camera. As I said earlier that his dashing good looks didn't make Cobra a chart topper. That's not a dis, it's just a fact.

[Red13JoePa]

Slander, as usual your implying while stopping short of saying that Jamison's advent somehow made the band wimpy. To me, it's all the same, the Jamo era had as much grit as the Bickler era.

But, if you actually admit that you blame Jamison for the wimpiness, yet one of your bedrock posting principles has been and remains that it was and still is Sullivan's band wouldn't the wimpiness be Frankie's fault?

[Slander]

Slander, as usual your implying while stopping short of saying that Jamison's advent somehow made the band wimpy. To me, it's all the same, the Jamo era had as much grit as the Bickler era.

But, if you actually admit that you blame Jamison for the wimpiness, yet one of your bedrock posting principles has been and remains that it was and still is Sullivan's band wouldn't the wimpiness be Frankie's fault?

Guy do you listen to yourself? I don't think anyone disputes that JJ softened the bands image. Is that really up for dispute? It's for better or worse. I really don't believe when the band started in 1977 that they would morph into Glass Tiger in 1987 with WSC. And no I don't blame Frankie. Is he responsible for JJ's look back then? They didn't have much of a run when they softened up, did they? This despite the photogenic Jamison. It takes more than just good looks to be successful. I'm sorry but let's not forget it's the TOUGH GRITTY STREET feel from Premontion that made everything possible. It blew the doors open! Kudo's to both Frankie and JP for producing the masterpiece that got them noticed by Sly Stallone.

[axecrew]

I guess we've all forgotten(slander) that most of vital signs was written for dave. It worked and got them a new deal. You forget that had vital signs tanked, they were done as a band on scotti bros. How can you blame them for writing what sells? They saw what worked for vital signs and continued with that. So who do we blame now?

[Slander]

I guess we've all forgotten(slander) that most of vital signs was written for dave. It worked and got them a new deal. You forget that had vital signs tanked, they were done as a band on scotti bros. How can you blame them for writing what sells? They saw what worked for vital signs and continued with that. So who do we blame now?

No I'm aware that a lot of VS was written for Dave. Yes it did work. VS is an AOR classic. It's doesn't change the fact that the softening of the image is a far cry from what paved the way for their success: Premonition and EOTT. That's what Survivor was at the core. Sorry it's all about the beret not the oh so photogenic JJ. In fact the post about the camera being good to him almost makes puke. What the hell does that have to do with music? LONG LIVE THE BERET.

[bulldog]

Looks mean a lot .. It may not be right but it is what it is.
Peterik changed the way he wrote tunes ! The keyboards and vocals became the formula when Jimi joined the band. Success soon followed . How can you argue with that success? The band itself may not have liked the direction they had to go but you can't rock the boat when you hit your mark.

I agree the music may have been harder and more melodic . Survivor wasn't Foreigner !
I was a big fan of Dave Bickler but he didn't have that emotional Lou Gramm excitement to his vocals .. I am not saying he wasn't great . Maybe it was Scotti Bros and the promtional machine back then that didn't push all those songs with Bickler on vocals and their image .. I have no idea.

How can you argue with the image of Vital Signs or When Seconds Count ? If Vital Signs didn't hit big Survivor would have ceased to exist back in 1983 period. Jim Peterik however was already becoming a legend song- writer even before all of this with 38 Special.

I think they made a mistake with Too Hot To Sleep . They were full of hits and videos from 84-87 . Having 5 hits was like wow back even then . I believe changing the sound for Too Hot To Sleep was wrong. The whole band from the past wasn't there either except Peterik , Sullivan & Jamison.

[Slander]

: If Vital Signs didn't hit big Survivor would have ceased to exist back in 1983 period. Jim Peterik however was already becoming a legend song- writer even before all of this with 38 Special.

I love the revisionist history here. If there were no PREMONITION or Eye Of The Tiger, there would have been no Jimi Jamison! He would have fallen into rock n' roll obscurity. And can we stop throwing the word legend around on this board? JP is a fine songwriter no doubt but a legend? Please! And please keep in mind I own all of JP's stuff. I just have a little objectivity.

Please stop the revisionist history!