Dave Bickler

by **Eyeof** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:32 am

You guys see where www.davebickler.com is up and running....there is also a myspace page...each have lots of cool pics and promise new music coming soon!

In addition the voice of Survivor says that he is planning on getting some music out there in '09 and playing some show in the NYC area!

This is great news...

by **Tito** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:00 am

Eyeof wrote:You guys see where www.davebickler.com is up and running....there is also a myspace page...each have lots of cool pics and promise new music coming soon!

In addition the voice of Survivor says that he is planning on getting some music out there in '09 and playing some show in the NYC area!

This is great news...

Jamison and him should team up for a summer festival tour. Bring Peterik along if he wants but he'll probably be tied up wit Ides of March.

by **jrnyman28** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:24 am

Given his previous long-standing stance about doing music vs. doing commercials, I would say this is very exciting news.

by **Eyeof** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:22 am

There are some songs now on Dave Bickler.com....

This is great...

by **MarcelJordan** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:51 pm

I'm there! Can't wait to hear the stuff!

by **MarcelJordan** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm

A nice tune called Magic is up! He sounds as young as ever.

Hope to hear more.

by **G.I.Jim** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:26 pm

I'm sorry, but I think that song sounds terrible! The writing, the performance, everything! Man, I hope he gets with some better writers and gets some decent songs together. I'd love to hear him rock out again. :wink:

by **Ehwmatt** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:19 am

G.I.Jim wrote:I'm sorry, but I think that song sounds terrible! The writing, the performance, everything! Man, I hope he gets with some better writers and gets some decent songs together. I'd love to hear him rock out again.

I sadly agree :/

Sounds like a bad high school rock band demo, to be honest, from the production all the way down to the amateur drum and guitar sounds. Shit, I make better sounding songs with an SM57, an Mbox Mini, a couple guitars, and a MIDI controller. And I can't even play keys.

Also, complete rip of Photograph in the main riff :lol:

by **Slander** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:27 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:I'm sorry, but I think that song sounds terrible! The writing, the performance, everything! Man, I hope he gets with some better writers and gets some decent songs together. I'd love to hear him rock out again.

I sadly agree :/

Sounds like a bad high school rock band demo, to be honest, from the production all the way down to the amateur drum and guitar sounds. Shit, I make better sounding songs with an SM57, an Mbox Mini, a couple guitars, and a MIDI controller. And I can't even play keys.

Also, complete rip of Photograph in the main riff

Dave will and ALWAYS be the MAN! :twisted:

by **Journey/Survivor** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:07 pm

I liked it. I think Dave sounds really good.
It kind of reminds me of some of the stuff Survivor were doing on the FMS recording sessions.

I do hope that most of the other songs will ROCK a lot more than "Magic" does, but I wish that the FMS recordings and Reach had ROCKED a lot more than they did. Of course we all need to keep in mind that the songs will sound better when were hearing them on an officially released CD, in Dave's case.

Anyway, I'm thrilled that Dave is working on a new album. I'm looking extremely forward to getting a full-length solo album from Dave. and I'm grateful that he has given us a full sample of one of his new songs.

And in fairness to Dave, we shouldn't hold him up to the same expectations that we would if he had Sullivan on guitar, Peterik & Sullivan co-writing the songs, and Marc Droubay on drums.

Reach sadly misses Peterik's involvement, and Crossroads Moment misses Sullivan and Droubay's involvement. As great as albums like Crossroads Moment, Reach, and the Pride Of Lions albums are, their always missing the other Survivor members on them.

But I'm sure Dave's album will be great all the same.

by **Slander** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:26 pm

Journey/Survivor wrote:Reach sadly misses Peterik's involvement, and Crossroads Moment misses Sullivan and Droubay's involvement. As great as albums like Crossroads Moment, Reach, and the Pride Of Lions albums are, their always missing the other Survivor members on them.
But I'm sure Dave's album will be great all the same.

Exactly. Dave has done some great stuff solo. I hope he puts out for everyone to hear again. I remember a lot of tracks from his previous website.

by **Ehwmatt** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:45 pm

Slander wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:I'm sorry, but I think that song sounds terrible! The writing, the performance, everything! Man, I hope he gets with some better writers and gets some decent songs together. I'd love to hear him rock out again.

I sadly agree :/

Sounds like a bad high school rock band demo, to be honest, from the production all the way down to the amateur drum and guitar sounds. Shit, I make better sounding songs with an SM57, an Mbox Mini, a couple guitars, and a MIDI controller. And I can't even play keys.

Also, complete rip of Photograph in the main riff

Dave will and ALWAYS be the MAN!

Dave rocks. No bias there from me. That's a bad song and a bad representation of his abilities though.

by **MarcelJordan** » Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:02 pm

Ehwmatt wrote:
Slander wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:I'm sorry, but I think that song sounds terrible! The writing, the performance, everything! Man, I hope he gets with some better writers and gets some decent songs together. I'd love to hear him rock out again.

I sadly agree :/

Sounds like a bad high school rock band demo, to be honest, from the production all the way down to the amateur drum and guitar sounds. Shit, I make better sounding songs with an SM57, an Mbox Mini, a couple guitars, and a MIDI controller. And I can't even play keys.

Also, complete rip of Photograph in the main riff

Dave will and ALWAYS be the MAN!

Dave rocks. No bias there from me. That's a bad song and a bad representation of his abilities though.

I thought the tune was fine. It just needs a bit more polish. I've always loved Dave's vocals BUT without Sullivan/Peterik involved expectations sadly may not be met. It will be a solo record and time will tell after more songs and put in. I think he would need other songwriters though.

by **Eyeof** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:49 am

I liked the song as well, it is clearly in the mold of some of the stuff from the FMS years....

As far as productiona dn what not, gees it's a demo on a website...i wasn't expecting Chinese Democracy...

by **Ehwmatt** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:19 am

Eyeof wrote:I liked the song as well, it is clearly in the mold of some of the stuff from the FMS years....

As far as productiona dn what not, gees it's a demo on a website...i wasn't expecting Chinese Democracy...

Indeed it's a demo, but it still sounds horrible. Even demos should sound somewhat decent, given today's technology. I can't even listen to the song unbiased. A demo still needs to be mixed well enough to at least hear the song the right way. Plus whoever is drumming on that track BLOWS.

by **Eyeof** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:13 am

well if you have all the ability, remix it for us...i'd love to hear your take....

by **Ehwmatt** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:15 am

Eyeof wrote:well if you have all the ability, remix it for us...i'd love to hear your take....

Sure, I'll just have to hope they did it in Pro Tools, can send me the session files, and all the tracks :lol:

I guarantee I could make it sound better and I have basically no real expertise aside from making it sound listenable/balanced. Plus, can't change those performances with mixing...

Some of the people who record a lot more than me around here, like Jim, could make it better in about 2 seconds.

by **Ehwmatt** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:24 am

So I'm listening to this a few more times. I still don't think it's a very good song. The chorus is pretty good until that E minor comes in, it just loses its "soaring" ability at that point. The outro is downright weird and dissonant, which usually doesn't work in a pop song for me.

But one thing that just occurred to me: Dave's voice isn't so obviously "80s rock." You listen to someone like SP or Dennis DeYoung or even JJ and you just hear unabashedly 80s style voices. Obviously not a bad thing for us, but not so good for commercial success today. I could honestly see Dave's voice carrying some commercial potential if he can get some good songs to sing. His voice definitely has a bit of a contemporary flavor that even some of my fave MR voices lack. I don't care ab commercial appeal, but it's always nice to see our boys do well in this fragmented musical age.

by **Journey/Survivor** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:01 am

Ehwmatt wrote:So I'm listening to this a few more times. I still don't think it's a very good song. The chorus is pretty good until that E minor comes in, it just loses its "soaring" ability at that point. The outro is downright weird and dissonant, which usually doesn't work in a pop song for me.

But one thing that just occurred to me: Dave's voice isn't so obviously "80s rock." You listen to someone like SP or Dennis DeYoung or even JJ and you just hear unabashedly 80s style voices. Obviously not a bad thing for us, but not so good for commercial success today. I could honestly see Dave's voice carrying some commercial potential if he can get some good songs to sing. His voice definitely has a bit of a contemporary flavor that even some of my fave MR voices lack. I don't care ab commercial appeal, but it's always nice to see our boys do well in this fragmented musical age.

I like the outro of the song.

Unfortunately this day and age, Dave or Jimi or Survivor are not gonna have great commercial success.

by **Journey/Survivor** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:06 am

The song also reminds me a little of something that the Gin Blossoms would do. Besides the FMS sessions.

by **jrnyman28** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:16 am

So, do you think Dave would promote as the 'voice of Eye Of The Tiger' and possibly 'stick' himself back in that 80's mindset. Or would he simply go out as Dave Bickler, let the media remind everyone that he was the voice of EOTT, but try to distance himself from that.

I have not heard the music yet, but I agree that Dave's vocals do not sound as 'dated' as others.

by **Journey/Survivor** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:27 am

jrnyman28 wrote:So, do you think Dave would promote as the 'voice of Eye Of The Tiger' and possibly 'stick' himself back in that 80's mindset. Or would he simply go out as Dave Bickler, let the media remind everyone that he was the voice of EOTT, but try to distance himself from that.

I have not heard the music yet, but I agree that Dave's vocals do not sound as 'dated' as others.

I would love for him to clearly go for a 1977-1983 Survivor sound on several of the songs. But he should probably record some songs that are just his own sound separate from Survivor. Although, I don't really know what that style is exactly, seeing as he has never released a solo album in the past.

He might as well use the fact that he's the voice of Eye Of The Tiger in promotion of the album.

by **MarcelJordan** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:22 pm

Journey/Survivor wrote:
jrnyman28 wrote:So, do you think Dave would promote as the 'voice of Eye Of The Tiger' and possibly 'stick' himself back in that 80's mindset. Or would he simply go out as Dave Bickler, let the media remind everyone that he was the voice of EOTT, but try to distance himself from that.

I have not heard the music yet, but I agree that Dave's vocals do not sound as 'dated' as others.

I would love for him to clearly go for a 1977-1983 Survivor sound on several of the songs. But he should probably record some songs that are just his own sound separate from Survivor. Although, I don't really know what that style is exactly, seeing as he has never released a solo album in the past.

He might as well use the fact that he's the voice of Eye Of The Tiger in promotion of the album.

I think someone has to help him get that added "punch". More FEEL to what he is singing. I just hope his motivation will carry him forward to really get a new record out. He did try some time back I don't know whether he really was serious as nothing happened except demos. Hope he is truly ready (in his mind) to make an impact.

by **Slander** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:25 pm

Ehwmatt wrote:But one thing that just occurred to me: Dave's voice isn't so obviously "80s rock." You listen to someone like SP or Dennis DeYoung or even JJ and you just hear unabashedly 80s style voices.

Couldn't agree more. Dave's voice is timeless.

by **Journey/Survivor** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:00 pm

To me, I don't know that a voice can sound dated, but a musical style can be.

by **Ehwmatt** » Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:08 pm

Journey/Survivor wrote:To me, I don't know that a voice can sound dated, but a musical style can be.

I can't really explain it. I just wouldn't be surprised to hear a vocalist in Dave's style/range/delivery on a younger band today. On the other hand, I'd be very surprised to hear someone come along and emulate DDY or SP's style. I'm definitely not trying to insult the latter two - they're two of the all-time greats, obviously. Just something I "feel."

by **silvergirl66** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:06 am

Dave's got a new song up on his site: www.davebickler.com

by **Ehwmatt** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:01 am

Man, what's with the awkward chord progressions in these two songs Dave's posted. His voice sounds great, but these songs need work!

by **Journey/Survivor** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:32 pm

Ehwmatt wrote:Man, what's with the awkward chord progressions in these two songs Dave's posted. His voice sounds great, but these songs need work!

I haven't heard the second song yet, so I don't know if I'll like it or not yet?

But it's probable that the writing of Peterik and Sullivan may be badly missing?

by **Ehwmatt** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:02 am

I just think this new one sounds even more awkward than the last one. The chord progressions/melody just don't sound good enough to me in both of them, especially this new one.

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