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Postby ForceInfinity » Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:01 am

So I've been listening to the new CD since this past Tuesday when it showed up at Best Buy here in Reno. Overall, I gotta say it's a fine CD and its great to hear Jimi Jamison sing the hell out of some songs that lets him open it up some (much like a champion F1 driver paired up with a great car). Highlights for me were Battersea, Friends We Never Met, Crossroads Moment, and Can't Lookaway. Jimi Jamison still sounds good (though he's not a youngun anymore). His voice is far an away better sounding than when he did his concert with Survivor out in Reno several years ago (his voice sounded shot all to hell that evening).

As an aside, now that I look back on it, I wonder if it had to do with the sound mix where he was straining to sing over FS's guitar (which seemed to overpower Jimi and was mixed kind of loud). I digress.

While the songs on the album and the work of the Jim Peterik are good and superior to the Reach album, JP is also my biggest complaint. I started picking up on this trend on the 2nd PoL album, and that trend continued here and it jarred me a bit as I listend to the songs. It seems he has this thing for starting nearly every song with this symbal roll leading into the song (sometimes a piano/keyboard roll). It ended up coming cross to me as the "Wilhelm" of rock music (google wilhelm to learn about the wilhelm scream if the metaphor is lost upon you) or the JP trademark or something. Granted the songs eventually break out to do their own thing, but I don't know. It was just distracting.

If I were scoring the album using the Andrew scale. I'd give it an 85 for the songs. 90 for the production values. Overall, I like the album and have been playing it to death.

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Postby (Crazy)Dulce Lady » Sun May 31, 2009 4:49 pm

i just got it a few minutes ago from my mailbox so I'll check back later when I give it a listen.
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Postby (Crazy)Dulce Lady » Mon Jun 01, 2009 1:51 pm

AMAZING!! I am overwhelmed. I must turn it off for a while and rest. It is sooooooooo good to hear him --it is making me a little emotional. He sounds so good. and the songs are fantastic. JP outdid himself.

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Postby Perrydise » Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:00 am

(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:AMAZING!! I am overwhelmed. I must turn it off for a while and rest. It is sooooooooo good to hear him --it is making me a little emotional. He sounds so good. and the songs are fantastic. JP outdid himself.

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Postby Eyeof » Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:52 am

I think it's a good album as well...i think it misses some of the grit of FS's guitar in terms of a Survivor, but I think Reash missed elements of JP as well...as we've all said 100 times, the total of that group together will always be more than the sum of its parts...
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Postby axecrew » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:28 am

Eyeof wrote:I think it's a good album as well...i think it misses some of the grit of FS's guitar in terms of a Survivor, but I think Reash missed elements of JP as well...as we've all said 100 times, the total of that group together will always be more than the sum of its parts...


I also happen to agree with you both......Eye, you hit upon the very thing that I've been trying to say from day 1. Jim's main strength was/is his songwriting, frankie's is his guitar playing. Slander seems to think that I hate sullivan....that's not true, I've met him a number of times over the years and have formed an opinion of him, nothing more. He's is a very good player, not great but very good. In my opinion the word great gets thrown around way to often. Eddie Van Halen is good, some say great......RR was great.....Hendrix was great.....sullivan is good.
Having said that.....you mentioned that Crossroad could've used sullivan's guitars and I agree, just like reach could've used Jim's writing ability.
What I've been trying to say is that you can have a great(good) guitar player and if the writing isn't any good, he doesn't mean shit. You can have an average player and if the writing is great,then you can overcome just ok playing. The songwriting is more important than any one individual player....anyone can make great songs sound ok. The greatest player in the world isn't going to be able to make a horseshit song sound anything but shit.
This is why I say that survivor misses Jim much more than Jim misses them, because Jim is still writing great songs......survivor....not so much. But we'll see when this new project comes out.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:59 am

axecrew wrote: we'll see when this new project comes out.


Anybody else wonder why we have not been told that whatever's coming is new Survivor album, that's it's only EVER been called a "project?"
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Postby Joe Vana » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:14 pm

Red13JoePa wrote:
axecrew wrote: we'll see when this new project comes out.


Anybody else wonder why we have not been told that whatever's coming is new Survivor album, that's it's only EVER been called a "project?"


I have recieved a bunch of emails asking the same thing.....JV
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Postby MarcelJordan » Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:02 pm

Joe Vana wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
axecrew wrote: we'll see when this new project comes out.


Anybody else wonder why we have not been told that whatever's coming is new Survivor album, that's it's only EVER been called a "project?"


I have recieved a bunch of emails asking the same thing.....JV


Well if Ron Nevison and Frank Fillipetti are involved, I don't think we need to worry too much. I feel its called a project to make sure the music suddenly doesn't show up on the net for download.
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Postby Joe Vana » Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:24 pm

MarcelJordan wrote:
Joe Vana wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
axecrew wrote: we'll see when this new project comes out.


Anybody else wonder why we have not been told that whatever's coming is new Survivor album, that's it's only EVER been called a "project?"


I have recieved a bunch of emails asking the same thing.....JV


Well if Ron Nevison and Frank Fillipetti are involved, I don't think we need to worry too much. I feel its called a project to make sure the music suddenly doesn't show up on the net for download.


It will exceed all expectations.....
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Postby MarcelJordan » Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:18 am

Joe Vana wrote:
MarcelJordan wrote:
Joe Vana wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
axecrew wrote: we'll see when this new project comes out.


Anybody else wonder why we have not been told that whatever's coming is new Survivor album, that's it's only EVER been called a "project?"


I have recieved a bunch of emails asking the same thing.....JV


Well if Ron Nevison and Frank Fillipetti are involved, I don't think we need to worry too much. I feel its called a project to make sure the music suddenly doesn't show up on the net for download.


It will exceed all expectations.....


I have no doubts! 8)

It would be great to hear some tidbits of the sessions, just a little taste. Any idea if that is in the cards? Love to hear a riff or two.
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Postby Slander » Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:39 am

MarcelJordan wrote:
Joe Vana wrote:
MarcelJordan wrote:
Joe Vana wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
axecrew wrote: we'll see when this new project comes out.


Anybody else wonder why we have not been told that whatever's coming is new Survivor album, that's it's only EVER been called a "project?"


I have recieved a bunch of emails asking the same thing.....JV


Well if Ron Nevison and Frank Fillipetti are involved, I don't think we need to worry too much. I feel its called a project to make sure the music suddenly doesn't show up on the net for download.


It will exceed all expectations.....


I have no doubts! 8)

It would be great to hear some tidbits of the sessions, just a little taste. Any idea if that is in the cards? Love to hear a riff or two.



Call it a project. Call it a record. Call it whatever. I'm just glad the FS and the boys are making music! Why get caught up in the rest.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:17 am

Slander wrote:Call it a project. Call it a record. Call it whatever. I'm just glad the FS and the boys are making music! Why get caught up in the rest.


The point being it's NOT being called a record or album. And believe me I'm not getting caught up, not since the first news of going into the studio was posted 3 summers ago.
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Postby axecrew » Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:34 am

And here we go again.......Slander why don't you go back to the other apologist on that "other" board. You know the one that you've made every attempt possible to tell everyone on there how great it is compared to this one. Since this board is so crappy according to you, go back to what I call the circle-jerk over there.

The reason it's called a "project" is they don't have any clue what it is yet and if they do......what happened to the ultra -open sullivan? How hard is it to say they are working on a new survivor album? Unless it's not in reality, or maybe no one will touch it right now after expectations of the last weren't met.
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Postby Joe Vana » Sun Jun 14, 2009 6:41 am

[quote="axecrew"]And here we go again.......Slander why don't you go back to the other apologist on that "other" board. You know the one that you've made every attempt possible to tell everyone on there how great it is compared to this one. Since this board is so crappy according to you, go back to what I call the circle-jerk over there.

The reason it's called a "project" is they don't have any clue what it is yet and if they do......what happened to the ultra -open sullivan? How hard is it to say they are working on a new survivor album? Unless it's not in reality, or maybe no one will touch it right now after expectations of the last weren't met.[/quote

Hey Axe....

I think FS has the right idea of do the "tracks" and then decide what is the best way to get them out there.....Survivor is still a recognizable worldwide brand, because of that they have alot of opporatunities, picking the right path is where all the hard decisions lie.....

CD, Album, Project....until you have about 10 tracks done they are just tracks....and FS is not calling it something until it is....I respect that he sets his mind to a task and he does it....I have been dealing with FS very closely for about 3 years now, and he has completed and done exactly what he said he would....

Plus there is something amazing, stunning, that is going on and being worked on in tandem to Mecca II, Survivor, Me and Frankie.....

I will wait for him to announce......

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Postby axecrew » Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:55 am

And yet we've come full circle once again.......first slander and whatever that was and now good ole' joe reminding everyone how he's been with sullivan for 3 years and sullivan has earned the right to take his time etc....blah, blah blah,blah...can I just save your last post and automatically post it after anything I say??? might save you the time.

Bottomline vana???? The reason they don't know what it is.........they don't have a deal in which to distribute it. Frontiers lost their fucking asses on that pile of shit called reach and they are reluctant to sink money into another " project" until they are certain it will be worth it. That's why it's a project......it could easily turn into a McCauley solo album or a sullivan's copy of world stage with tons of guest artist etc.And be independently released.
Frontiers isn't going to buy a pig in a poke this time... and before you or slander tell me otherwise....it's really amazing that the brand that's recognized all over the world couldn't get a deal to distribute their "new' album in the US, their home county, and still hasn't some what 3 years after it's release, but yet Jamison was able to get a domestic deal some 5 months or so after his new album was released.
You're in sullivan's inner circle...congratulations....you get to help write the new survior album or McCauley solo, or "project" or whatever it is..... and maybe you even get to sing on it or maybe just backgrounds,that's great for you and I hope you get millions for your effort!!!!!
Personally.......I don't give a shit what it's called or what it is.....I was making a very benign statement about how everyone's talking about the ultra-open frankie and the unprecedented access etc.. and yet it's "Business as Usual" with regards to this "project" And NOWHERE did I say anything about what someone's RIGHTS were regarding it and yet you felt the need to come riding up on your white charger and straighten me out, along with reminding me about how important you are and your unpretenious access to all things sullivan, hinting about some great secret in the process like a 3rd grader.......I got a secret nanananana. Like I said I hope you make millions and can give up working to concentrate on just your music, really I do. I do love that no one has challenged my speculation that part of it is due to no deal right now.....although now that I've mentioned that, I'm sure you will commence taking me to task and remind me that survivor is a world wide brand and there are labels camping out side a house on "small town drive" in Palatine, just waiting for word on who the chosen one to put it out is.
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Postby Slander » Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:08 pm

axecrew wrote:Personally.......I don't give a shit what it's called or what it is......


Clearly you do. Or you wouldn't rave like a mad man with your moronic statements.
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Postby Slander » Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:18 pm

axecrew wrote: Frontiers lost their fucking asses on that pile of shit called reach and they are reluctant to sink money into another " project" until they are certain it will be worth it.


The only pile of shite is coming out of your mouth. Who the hell are you? Serafino Perugino? Admit it axe you are just a bitter horses ass. A talent and person like FS wouldn't give you the time of day and it pisses you off. How much money did Frontiers lose Axe? Do you work for Frontiers? Oh that's right you would just rather make shite up as you go. Me and others know that's your MO. Like I said earlier in the thread, I don't care what you call new music as long as it's new music. I'll let simpletons like you wallow in minutia. This is without a doubt the most trivial and stupidest criticism I have heard of Survivor to date.
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Postby MarcelJordan » Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:15 pm

FS (yes the real Frankie Sullivan) is on twitter, Facebook etc telling EVERYONE who wishes to read it that there is something great coming up. I don't see any fear in the man :twisted:

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Postby Andrew » Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:09 pm

axecrew wrote:And here we go again.......Slander why don't you go back to the other apologist on that "other" board. You know the one that you've made every attempt possible to tell everyone on there how great it is compared to this one. Since this board is so crappy according to you, go back to what I call the circle-jerk over there.


Axe, you are out of line here. There's no need to reference the official Survivor message board, a place where I wouldn't expect to read anything but positive comments. Same as other artists official boards.

That's why there are alternative's such as this board here, but that also said....I don't want this to be the anti-anything board either. All are welcome and all views are welcome....if said with respect.
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Postby Slander » Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:50 am

Andrew wrote:
axecrew wrote:And here we go again.......Slander why don't you go back to the other apologist on that "other" board. You know the one that you've made every attempt possible to tell everyone on there how great it is compared to this one. Since this board is so crappy according to you, go back to what I call the circle-jerk over there.


Axe, you are out of line here. There's no need to reference the official Survivor message board, a place where I wouldn't expect to read anything but positive comments. Same as other artists official boards.

That's why there are alternative's such as this board here, but that also said....I don't want this to be the anti-anything board either. All are welcome and all views are welcome....if said with respect.


Thank you Andrew. And in no way shape or form have I bashed you or the board. While we may have not seen things the same from time to time I am thankful you give fans like myself a chance to express our views. I also am thankful there are people like yourself that do everything possible to keep this genre of music alive.
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Postby Slander » Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:14 am

MarcelJordan wrote:FS (yes the real Frankie Sullivan) is on twitter, Facebook etc telling EVERYONE who wishes to read it that there is something great coming up. I don't see any fear in the man :twisted:

Justin


Marcel good to see you. Great things are happening! I'm looking foward to the re-issue of the catalog as well as the new compilation from Sony with liner notes.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:36 am

You're ordering the re-issues from overseas I guess?
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Postby Slander » Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:44 am

Red13JoePa wrote:You're ordering the re-issues from overseas I guess?


I don't give a crap where I get them from! Like I said I'll let you and axe wallow in the minutia. I get my stuff from NEH records in Colorado and at a great price I might add. www.nehrecords.com.
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Postby Slander » Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:29 am

MarcelJordan wrote:FS (yes the real Frankie Sullivan) is on twitter, Facebook etc telling EVERYONE who wishes to read it that there is something great coming up. I don't see any fear in the man :twisted:

Justin


Absolutely! I don't get it people have always complained about 2 things when it came to FS. 1) Lack of productivity and 2) Lack of info on the band. Now FS has completely opened up and the band is working on new material and certain camps are still bitching! Some people aren't happy unless they are trying to tear others down.
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Postby axecrew » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:05 pm

Slander.....This will be my ONLY post to you regarding this thread....I owe you NO explanations nor do I owe you anything.
You questioning my credibility like you have and all your other comments are as important to me as a boil on the ass of a gnat.
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Postby MarcelJordan » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:30 pm

Slander wrote:
MarcelJordan wrote:FS (yes the real Frankie Sullivan) is on twitter, Facebook etc telling EVERYONE who wishes to read it that there is something great coming up. I don't see any fear in the man :twisted:

Justin


Marcel good to see you. Great things are happening! I'm looking foward to the re-issue of the catalog as well as the new compilation from Sony with liner notes.


Oh yes. I'm getting that one. 8)
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Postby Slander » Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:34 pm

axecrew wrote:Slander.....This will be my ONLY post to you regarding this thread....I owe you NO explanations nor do I owe you anything.
You questioning my credibility like you have and all your other comments are as important to me as a boil on the ass of a gnat.


I will ask you again dull AXE just how much money did Frontiers lose on Reach? Seriously. You make moronic statements without back up. Like I said you are just a poor bitter individual and your posts continue to prove it.
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Postby Perrydise » Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:17 pm

And they claim that women "hijack" threads :roll: (injecting some humor here)

Seriously, this thread was about Crossroads Moment review......not what Survivor is or isn't going to do.
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Postby Tito » Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:59 am

Andrew wrote:
axecrew wrote:And here we go again.......Slander why don't you go back to the other apologist on that "other" board. You know the one that you've made every attempt possible to tell everyone on there how great it is compared to this one. Since this board is so crappy according to you, go back to what I call the circle-jerk over there.


Axe, you are out of line here. There's no need to reference the official Survivor message board, a place where I wouldn't expect to read anything but positive comments. Same as other artists official boards.

That's why there are alternative's such as this board here, but that also said....I don't want this to be the anti-anything board either. All are welcome and all views are welcome....if said with respect.


Maybe he belongs up a few floors to the Journey forum. :D
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