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DavidWT wrote:Cool, thanks for posting that.
Interesting that he says there's a "definite possibility" of JP being involved with Survivor's songwriting. I don't know if I believe it, but at least he didn't flat-out say it's impossible.
And it's also nice to see "Too Hot To Sleep" getting some recognition. I agree with JJ-- that's the best Survivor album with JJ, and possibly my favorite overall.
Slander wrote:Scotti Brothers was really a catch 22 for the band.
ForceInfinity wrote:The funny thing is you got another group of fans that probably only know Survivor by "The Search is Over" which was probably the JJ era's biggest hit. At the same time, I've gotten to the point to where the song I remember them for (but for all the wrong reasons) is "I See You in Everyone". For those who've been to any of their live shows, know the story but for those who haven't, it's that song they always play about two thirds through the concert where FS insists upon doing this god awful stupidly f-ing long guitar solo that seemingly runs on for about 10 minutes (sorry, I'll take a Neal Schon, Steve Howe, John Petrucci solo light years over FS's solo). Journey or Asia has far better pacing in their concerts than this where the instrumentals are quite a bit shorter and at least sound like they're building to something. The ISYIE solo seems like it just languishes.
Journey/Survivor wrote:ForceInfinity wrote:The funny thing is you got another group of fans that probably only know Survivor by "The Search is Over" which was probably the JJ era's biggest hit. At the same time, I've gotten to the point to where the song I remember them for (but for all the wrong reasons) is "I See You in Everyone". For those who've been to any of their live shows, know the story but for those who haven't, it's that song they always play about two thirds through the concert where FS insists upon doing this god awful stupidly f-ing long guitar solo that seemingly runs on for about 10 minutes (sorry, I'll take a Neal Schon, Steve Howe, John Petrucci solo light years over FS's solo). Journey or Asia has far better pacing in their concerts than this where the instrumentals are quite a bit shorter and at least sound like they're building to something. The ISYIE solo seems like it just languishes.
Burning Heart was the highest charting hit of the Jamison era, with The Search Is Over being the second biggest charting hit of the Jamison era.
I'm one of the few people that kind of likes FS's long solos. Although, I hate it when they only do 9 or 10 songs per show. As much as I like the long solos, if he played shorter solos, they would be able to fit one or two more songs in the set.
Yes, I would take a Neal Schon solo over a Frankie Sullivan solo, if I had to choose. But IMO FS is a very underrated guitarist.
Journey/Survivor wrote:ForceInfinity wrote:The funny thing is you got another group of fans that probably only know Survivor by "The Search is Over" which was probably the JJ era's biggest hit. At the same time, I've gotten to the point to where the song I remember them for (but for all the wrong reasons) is "I See You in Everyone". For those who've been to any of their live shows, know the story but for those who haven't, it's that song they always play about two thirds through the concert where FS insists upon doing this god awful stupidly f-ing long guitar solo that seemingly runs on for about 10 minutes (sorry, I'll take a Neal Schon, Steve Howe, John Petrucci solo light years over FS's solo). Journey or Asia has far better pacing in their concerts than this where the instrumentals are quite a bit shorter and at least sound like they're building to something. The ISYIE solo seems like it just languishes.
Burning Heart was the highest charting hit of the Jamison era, with The Search Is Over being the second biggest charting hit of the Jamison era.
I'm one of the few people that kind of likes FS's long solos. Although, I hate it when they only do 9 or 10 songs per show. As much as I like the long solos, if he played shorter solos, they would be able to fit one or two more songs in the set.
Yes, I would take a Neal Schon solo over a Frankie Sullivan solo, if I had to choose. But IMO FS is a very underrated guitarist.
ForceInfinity wrote: FS insists upon doing this god awful stupidly f-ing long guitar solo that seemingly runs on for about 10 minutes
Slander wrote:ForceInfinity wrote: FS insists upon doing this god awful stupidly f-ing long guitar solo that seemingly runs on for about 10 minutes
Back in 1986 I had the chance to see Survivor in Spokane WA on the WSC Tour. Jason and the Scorchers were the opening act but couldn't make it due to bad weather. So Frankie and I think it was MD came out and played as the group SPLEEN! It was great because we got to see a musical side to FS that we never see. It was bluesy and a hell of a lot of fun as I recall. I don't think they played that long but FS was great. My point is that while I agree the solo's go on long, it's a rare thing to see FS cut loose and I enjoy it. In regards to ISYIE it is a classic. Go back to VS and give it a listen. Hooks galore in the song. FS guitar work! Mickey Thomas! It's a friggin gem.
Slander wrote:ForceInfinity wrote: FS insists upon doing this god awful stupidly f-ing long guitar solo that seemingly runs on for about 10 minutes
Back in 1986 I had the chance to see Survivor in Spokane WA on the WSC Tour. Jason and the Scorchers were the opening act but couldn't make it due to bad weather. So Frankie and I think it was MD came out and played as the group SPLEEN! It was great because we got to see a musical side to FS that we never see. It was bluesy and a hell of a lot of fun as I recall. I don't think they played that long but FS was great. My point is that while I agree the solo's go on long, it's a rare thing to see FS cut loose and I enjoy it. In regards to ISYIE it is a classic. Go back to VS and give it a listen. Hooks galore in the song. FS guitar work! Mickey Thomas! It's a friggin gem.
DavidWT wrote:Speaking of annoyingly long solos...
The only time I ever saw "Survivor" in concert was back in 1995. I put "Survivor" in quotes because when I got to the place, it was just JJ and a bunch of people I'd never heard of before, which was kind of disappointing, and felt like false advertising. But anyway, that show included an overly long drum solo, which is, perhaps, even more annoying than an overly long guitar solo.
(actually, the entire concert was a bit off. First there was the fact that it was billed as Survivor, even though it only included one FORMER member of Survivor. Then it started about 45 minutes late. Then JJ's mic didn't work for the first song, Caught In The Game, so it ended up basically being an instrumental track. Then JJ had to leave the stage for a while to get a new mic. Then there was the drum solo, which was just irritating. Then they played several covers of Doors songs, when I what I really wanted to hear was Survivor. On the positive side, it WAS a free concert, so I guess I shouldn't complain too much.)
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