Here comes the silence again!

by **Eyeof** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:49 am

LOL...There simply is no way to keep conversation going in here!

by **Slander** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:59 am

Eyeof wrote:LOL...There simply is no way to keep conversation going in here!

I couldn't agree more. The big JJ splash announcement I thought would mean more conversation, more tour dates, new music etc. The board is as quiet as ever.

by **DavidWT** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:40 am

The only way we'll get total silence on here would be if Bryan Adams joined Survivor.

by **Journey/Survivor** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:44 am

Shhhhhhh. Would you all please keep it down in here! I'm trying to sleep.

by **scarab** » Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:56 am

survivor should do a "generations" tour, with all past and present players.
just like the the successful Journey tour where....
no one showed.

by **Slander** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:35 am

scarab wrote:survivor should do a "generations" tour, with all past and present players.
just like the the successful Journey tour where....
no one showed.

Loverboy and Pat Benatar are touring with Journey this summer. In my eyes Survivor is as big if not bigger than both of these acts! Why can't FS and company get a gig like that or are they just not interested? Or is it poor promotion and management?

by **Eyeof** » Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:23 am

Slander I think you would have to actually commit to playing more than five shows a year and they just aren't quite ready for that yet!

by **scarab** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:25 am

With Jimi back on board, Journey should open for Survivor.
They have become a Karaoke act playing the dirty dozen.

by **Abitaman** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:42 am

scarab wrote:With Jimi back on board, Journey should open for Survivor.
They have become a Karaoke act playing the dirty dozen.

At least they are playing....

by **Mikele** » Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:16 pm

scarab wrote:With Jimi back on board, Journey should open for Survivor.
They have become a Karaoke act playing the dirty dozen.

but they are entertaining (at least in 2008 they still were). Survivor could play their dirty one too and get away with it better, I agree

by **Eyeof** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:36 pm

Here we go again!

by **Slander** » Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:26 am

Eyeof wrote:Here we go again!

My tank is empty. It's hard to give when no one is giving back. I expected so much more. I really did. Shame on me for believing.

by **Eyeof** » Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:35 am

Damn! That kind of post from Slander hurts!

by **Eyeof** » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:53 pm

This reminds me of the times that it got so barren in here that I would go over to the Journey boards and start telling them how - Next to Dave Bickler, Steve Perry was not all that bad and most likely a clear number two....Or drop a Bryan Adams post about him playing on Mars or something...

Alas, I just don't have it in me any longer either...

by **Slander** » Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:29 am

Eyeof wrote:This reminds me of the times that it got so barren in here that I would go over to the Journey boards and start telling them how - Next to Dave Bickler, Steve Perry was not all that bad and most likely a clear number two....Or drop a Bryan Adams post about him playing on Mars or something...

Alas, I just don't have it in me any longer either...

Here's what I don't understand-I feel that there's a sense of entitlement that we, the fans will always be there! How can that be possible? It's not like they are playing gigs in all 50 states! What happened to transparency? Communicating with fans? It's great Survivor is on Twitter, FB, but what good is it if you don't tell us anything interesting or remotely new? I could careless if someone worked out to Tiger this morning, or the song was the inspiration for someone's son in little league. My god, haven't we moved past that already? I love this band, love the music, but enough already.

by **DavidWT** » Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:16 am

Slander wrote:Here's what I don't understand-I feel that there's a sense of entitlement that we, the fans will always be there!

I don't know-- Do you think they really CARE if they have any fans? It just seems to me that they've all pretty much outgrown their interest in being a rock band, and fair enough, people's interests change. They're not in their 20s anymore. I really don't know if they still care about having a fan base. They don't like recording music, apparently, and they also don't like touring, so why would they need fans? They don't really have anything to sell, so they don't need buyers. If they play a gig at a state fair or something, I'm sure a few people will always show up just because it's some live music, and it seems to me that that's enough for Survivor at this point.

by **bulldog** » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:03 am

Nobody mentioned that Jimi Jamison has a new cd coming out this fall. It was front page news on this website. Pride Of Lions does too . For some reason Frankie either doesn't have enough confidence in his material or has no intention of releasing anything new.

I watched Firefest 2011 dvd the other day . I must say Jimi is a much better front man when the shows are his. The band that backs him up also kicks Survivor's ass out of the park and brings new life and modern sounds to the old songs.

Caught In The Game , Didn't Know It Was Love & Is This Love belong in the setlist. Everyone is seriously missing out on Jimi"s version of Is This Love . You have to hear it !

by **Slander** » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:12 am

bulldog wrote:Nobody mentioned that Jimi Jamison has a new cd coming out this fall. (because it's not Survivor) Pride Of Lions does too. (It's been noted time and time again) For some reason Frankie either doesn't have enough confidence in his material (nice jab at Sullivan, the complaint here isn't about FS abilities but lack of activity.)

I watched Firefest 2011 dvd the other day . I must say Jimi is a much better front man when the shows are his. The band that backs him up also kicks Survivor's ass out of the park and brings new life and modern sounds to the old songs.

Caught In The Game , Didn't Know It Was Love & Is This Love belong in the setlist. Everyone is seriously missing out on Jimi"s version of Is This Love . You have to hear it !

No I really don't have to hear it. Thanks for the Jamison lovefest. Next he'll be parting the RED SEA in concert and healing people.

by **axecrew** » Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:13 pm

Slander wrote:
bulldog wrote:Nobody mentioned that Jimi Jamison has a new cd coming out this fall. (because it's not Survivor) Pride Of Lions does too. (It's been noted time and time again) For some reason Frankie either doesn't have enough confidence in his material (nice jab at Sullivan, the complaint here isn't about FS abilities but lack of activity.)

I watched Firefest 2011 dvd the other day . I must say Jimi is a much better front man when the shows are his. The band that backs him up also kicks Survivor's ass out of the park and brings new life and modern sounds to the old songs.

Caught In The Game , Didn't Know It Was Love & Is This Love belong in the setlist. Everyone is seriously missing out on Jimi"s version of Is This Love . You have to hear it !

No I really don't have to hear it. Thanks for the Jamison lovefest. Next he'll be parting the RED SEA in concert and healing people.

They'd have to play one first.

by **Andrew** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:22 pm

Slander wrote:
bulldog wrote:Nobody mentioned that Jimi Jamison has a new cd coming out this fall. (because it's not Survivor) Pride Of Lions does too. (It's been noted time and time again) For some reason Frankie either doesn't have enough confidence in his material (nice jab at Sullivan, the complaint here isn't about FS abilities but lack of activity.)

I watched Firefest 2011 dvd the other day . I must say Jimi is a much better front man when the shows are his. The band that backs him up also kicks Survivor's ass out of the park and brings new life and modern sounds to the old songs.

Caught In The Game , Didn't Know It Was Love & Is This Love belong in the setlist. Everyone is seriously missing out on Jimi"s version of Is This Love . You have to hear it !

No I really don't have to hear it. Thanks for the Jamison lovefest. Next he'll be parting the RED SEA in concert and healing people.

At least he's doing something. Survivor fans are going to live this new material. Really kicks.

by **Eyeof** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:09 am

Well slander we can't hold it against JJ that he actually has the drive to do SOMETHING...ANYTHING!

This is FS's fault...did he fight for Survivor just so he could kill it? WTF

by **Slander** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:05 am

Eyeof wrote:Well slander we can't hold it against JJ that he actually has the drive to do SOMETHING...ANYTHING!

This is FS's fault...did he fight for Survivor just so he could kill it? WTF

No Joke. Glad JJ is doing something, that something isn't always good! Quality of quantity, but at this point it would be nice if they just released a new single that fans could download.

by **Journey/Survivor** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:07 pm

Eyeof wrote:This is FS's fault...did he fight for Survivor just so he could kill it? WTF

It's like you have mentioned before, Sullivan is that bratty-kid that doesn't want to play with the toy, he just wants to make sure that none of the other kids get to play with it.

Sullivan doesn't want to do anything with Survivor, he just wants to make sure that Peterik doesn't get to do anything with Survivor. Or that Jamison doesn't get to do anything with Survivor without his (Sullivan's) control.

by **Andrew** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:37 pm

Slander wrote:
Eyeof wrote:Well slander we can't hold it against JJ that he actually has the drive to do SOMETHING...ANYTHING!

This is FS's fault...did he fight for Survivor just so he could kill it? WTF

No Joke. Glad JJ is doing something, that something isn't always good!

Someone is losing the plot here I think.

by **Slander** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:31 am

Andrew wrote:
Slander wrote:
Eyeof wrote:Well slander we can't hold it against JJ that he actually has the drive to do SOMETHING...ANYTHING!

This is FS's fault...did he fight for Survivor just so he could kill it? WTF

No Joke. Glad JJ is doing something, that something isn't always good!

Someone is losing the plot here I think.

Glad there is no longer silence! Glad I could oblige. All you have to do is be slightly critical of JJ and everyone comes running. What a hoot.

by **Abitaman** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:33 am

Slander wrote:
bulldog wrote:Nobody mentioned that Jimi Jamison has a new cd coming out this fall. (because it's not Survivor) Pride Of Lions does too. (It's been noted time and time again) For some reason Frankie either doesn't have enough confidence in his material (nice jab at Sullivan, the complaint here isn't about FS abilities but lack of activity.)

I watched Firefest 2011 dvd the other day . I must say Jimi is a much better front man when the shows are his. The band that backs him up also kicks Survivor's ass out of the park and brings new life and modern sounds to the old songs.

Caught In The Game , Didn't Know It Was Love & Is This Love belong in the setlist. Everyone is seriously missing out on Jimi"s version of Is This Love . You have to hear it !

No I really don't have to hear it. Thanks for the Jamison lovefest. Next he'll be parting the RED SEA in concert and healing people.

I do not think it was meant as a Jamison lovefest. But I could be reading it different. Think is Jimi came out with a cd last year and has one set for this year. He seems to be trying to make something of it. But Survivor with or without him is doing nothing. Seems to be, based on the info given, the problem seems to be Frankie.

by **Slander** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:39 am

Abitaman wrote:I do not think it was meant as a Jamison lovefest. But I could be reading it different. Think is Jimi came out with a cd last year and has one set for this year. He seems to be trying to make something of it. But Survivor with or without him is doing nothing. Seems to be, based on the info given, the problem seems to be Frankie.

I wasn't disputing that Frankie is at the controls. He is to blame for the inactivity, plain and simple. However, I have a hard time believe that any JJ concert solo is far superior to Survivor. Not buying it for a second. Also everything JJ and POL puts out isn't great. I've seen JJ solo once and it sucked. I wanted my money back it was so bad. That doesn't mean he's a bad guy, it means the concert wasn't very good.

by **Abitaman** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:43 am

Slander wrote:
Eyeof wrote:Well slander we can't hold it against JJ that he actually has the drive to do SOMETHING...ANYTHING!

This is FS's fault...did he fight for Survivor just so he could kill it? WTF

No Joke. Glad JJ is doing something, that something isn't always good! Quality of quantity, but at this point it would be nice if they just released a new single that fans could download.

The quality of all Jimi's Cd's have been above average. Even the demos sound good. Of course Jmi always seems to surrounded with good players, writers, producers, etc.... IMO, my least favorite Jimi solo CD was his first after his first run with Survivor in the early 90's. Name of the CD slips my mind right now, hard the songs, Rock Hard, Johnny's Got a Shot Gun, Long Walk Home, When Love Comes Down, etc.... The problem with that CD was the production, had some good songs, etc...

But I do not think people are coming out of the woodwork to defend Jimi, OK maybe they are, but he and Peterick are the only ones in the Survivor game still doing something. What is Frankie doing???? My least favorite CD that JImi is on is Reach, which I liked at first (because it was the first new CD in years!) But now years later it is my least favorite CD by Jimi or Survivor.

If Frankie would do something other than lie........(an empty promise is a lie to me).......

by **Slander** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:46 am

Abitaman wrote:But I do not think people are coming out of the woodwork to defend Jimi, OK maybe they are, but he and Peterick are the only ones in the Survivor game still doing something. What is Frankie doing????

I guess my point is, why does JJ need defending at all? Let the music do the talkin'. By the way I agree with you. at least JJ and Peterik are doing something, but let's not kid ourselves-that something isn't always great.

by **Abitaman** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:48 am

Slander wrote:
Abitaman wrote:I do not think it was meant as a Jamison lovefest. But I could be reading it different. Think is Jimi came out with a cd last year and has one set for this year. He seems to be trying to make something of it. But Survivor with or without him is doing nothing. Seems to be, based on the info given, the problem seems to be Frankie.

I wasn't disputing that Frankie is at the controls. He is to blame for the inactivity, plain and simple. However, I have a hard time believe that any JJ concert solo is far superior to Survivor. Not buying it for a second. Also everything JJ and POL puts out isn't great. I've seen JJ solo once and it sucked. I wanted my money back it was so bad. That doesn't mean he's a bad guy, it means the concert wasn't very good.

Saw Jimi on his first solo tour and I too will saw if wasn't good. But mine was free so I could ask for money back. But saw him years later on his on again, and it was great. So I am batting 500 with seeing him. But the New Orleans I saw in 2000 with Jimi and Survivor was not good at all. One of the worse shows I have ever seen. Jimi sounded good and was putting on a good show, but after the 15 minute guitar solo is was dead after that, and fans did not get back on there feet until the last song.
But for me CD wise Survivor has done good on all CD except for two. But except for 1 I would put Jimi's CD up there with most of Survivors.

MR

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