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[Infinity]

Even if his voice changed


there is no 'if' about it...even Perry has admitted it.

Wtf?We all know that.What`s your point?

He hasn't sung like his former self since the first part of the ROR tour.

Former self?LOL.Once a singer,always a singer.Who cares about the high pitched notes as long as he can deliver a song like a pro?Trust me,he still got it.

Perry sounds raspy and without range on TBF and even on FTLOSM.

That`s how YOU hear it,so you should add "IMHO" to this statement.

Augeri sounds %100 better then Perry on Generations.

Put it this way:I am sure 10 years ago you could party all night long and go to work the next morning like a fresh daisy.
Augeri is 10 years younger than Perry.Period.
Let`s wait and hear Augeri in 2016,ok?

the former talent who hasn't really impressed me in 20yrs.

That`s your problem.

Perry hasn't completed a full tour since Frontiers. He will never tour again. I doubt he will ever perform live again, with or without the rest of Journey.

I told you before,don`t act like you are his manager.You can`t possibly know what he is up to.

I doubt he could sing a set of a dozen songs.

he couldn't sing a single song live and make it anything less then a disaster.

Perry will never go out on tour...his voice won't take it.

All these lines are suppositions.

[Rockindeano]

Monker, damn you. YOU know exactly what the Hell is up. Don't put down Perry when you know what is up with SA.

PM me.

[NealIsGod]

Put it this way:I am sure 10 years ago you could party all night long and go to work the next morning like a fresh daisy.
Augeri is 10 years younger than Perry.Period.
Let`s wait and hear Augeri in 2016,ok?

Who the fuck cares about Journey in 2016? We are talking about TODAY.

[Monker]

>>there is no 'if' about it...even Perry has admitted it.

Wtf?We all know that.What`s your point?

The point is YOU said, "Even if he voice has changed." It HAS changed...the "if" in your statement should not be there.

Former self?LOL.Once a singer,always a singer.

ANYBODY can sing. But, I don't want somebody who sounds like an aging Rod Stewart singing Journey songs.

Who cares about the high pitched notes as long as he can deliver a song like a pro?

I do...and it's not just 'high pitched notes'. His entire delivery of Journey songs changed during ROR and continued into FTLOSM - and I don't like how he changed it.

Trust me,he still got it.

Why should I trust you when I hear absolutely NO evidence that you are correct?

Put it this way:I am sure 10 years ago you could party all night long and go to work the next morning like a fresh daisy.
Augeri is 10 years younger than Perry.Period.
Let`s wait and hear Augeri in 2016,ok?

IMO, Augeri sounds better today then Perry did 20yrs ago. We also have not heard Perry REALLY sing live since FTLOSM - and even that wasn't impressive.

>>the former talent who hasn't really impressed me in 20yrs.

That`s your problem.

No, it's your problem - and to fix it, you want Perry back in the band. That is a situation I do not want in Journey.

I told you before,don`t act like you are his manager.You can`t possibly know what he is up to.

I am doing nothing different then what you did when you said Augeri should go back to TS.

Perry will not tour again. I have been saying that ever since I heard "I Stand Alone"...every year since then someone always has this idea that Perry will tour...and I have been right every year. He won't tour because his voice can't take it. He sounds like he can barely record ONE SONG in a STUDIO...there is no way he will be able to perform a full concert or complete a tour.

All these lines are suppositions.

And, it is your 'supposition' that Perry would treat another reunion differently then the last one. Hey, maybe you're right...he'll sign up, record, and then he'll need his shoulder replaced this time.

Herbie was right when he says in his various interviews that Perry would never tour with them...that he would find an excuse. The Bill Graham tribute and FTLOSM tour should have been enough evidence. His voice can't take it. Today we even have a canceled TBF tour...and you still want to give Perry another opportunity to thrown Journey under the bus...unbelievable.

[Abitaman]

Wtf?We all know that.What`s your point?



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question is, what is yours. why are you rehashing Perry coming back? It is pointless-ERIC

[Abitaman]

Monker, damn you. YOU know exactly what the Hell is up. Don't put down Perry when you know what is up with SA.

PM me.

i KNOW WHAT IS UP, AND WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL!!!!!!!!!!PERRY DID IT, WOULD BE NOW TOO!!!!

[Abitaman]

Put it this way:I am sure 10 years ago you could party all night long and go to work the next morning like a fresh daisy.
Augeri is 10 years younger than Perry.Period.
Let`s wait and hear Augeri in 2016,ok?

Who the f**k cares about Journey in 2016? We are talking about TODAY.

Well said ( for the most part ), stop living in the past, how ever good it was, it is not coming back. enjoy Journey now, or leave them alone-ERIC

[Infinity]

ANYBODY can sing. But, I don't want somebody who sounds like an aging Rod Stewart singing Journey songs.

Sure.Anybody can sing,but not like Perry.He isn`t considered The Voice of AOR for nothing,ya know?Add to this the fact that his voice will always be identified with Journey.

But, I don't want somebody who sounds like an aging Rod Stewart singing Journey songs.

O really? What if Perry never left Journey and he would’ve *aged* in the band? I am sure they would have tailored the old songs to fit his vocal capabilities.They could do the same thing now.

Trust me,he still got it.

Why should I trust you when I hear absolutely NO evidence that you are correct?

And you have NO evidence that he can’t sing anymore.

>>the former talent who hasn't really impressed me in 20yrs.

That`s your problem.

No, it's your problem - and to fix it, you want Perry back in the band. That is a situation I do not want in Journey.

You missed the point.If Perry didn`t impress you in 20 years,that`s entirely your problem.A hearing problem,maybe?
A lot of people want Perry back in the band because they want the magic back.Some things can’t be separated.Journey is like the five elements.Take one out and the entire formula is messed up.

and you still want to give Perry another opportunity to thrown Journey under the bus...unbelievable.

Naw.They would be in it.For a last tour.

[Monker]

Sure.Anybody can sing,but not like Perry.

Anybody could sing like the Perry of today. I can go to a baseball game and scream out DSB just as good as him.

O really? What if Perry never left Journey and he would’ve *aged* in the band?

That's what happened between ROR and TBF. That is what we would have today if Perry was in the band.

I am sure they would have tailored the old songs to fit his vocal capabilities.They could do the same thing now.

kinda hard to do that when Perry is sitting on his metalic hip doing no singing at all.

And you have NO evidence that he can’t sing anymore.

I have plenty of evidence that I don't WANT him to sing JOURNEY songs any more, ESPECIALY with Journey itself: The ROR tour, the Bill Graham tribute, the canceled FTLOSM tour, the canceled TBF tour, his 'singing' at the White Sox thing...The guy sounds like crap to me, he cancels tours and doesn't follow through on his obligations. He constantly makes up excuses. He is a has been.

You missed the point.If Perry didn`t impress you in 20 years,that`s entirely your problem.

THAT isn't a problem. The problem is you don't want Journey as they are now...so you want a crappy old has-been to rejoin the band.

{quote]A lot of people want Perry back in the band because they want the magic back.[/quote]

Yeah, that wonderful magic of TBF, where Perry abandons the band for a second. Wow, they should tour Disney and Neverland with that kinda magic. It's a fantasy...that 'magic' hasn't REALLY existed since 1983.

Some things can’t be separated.Journey is like the five elements.Take one out and the entire formula is messed up.

LOL. Well, I guess Infinity, Evolution, Departure, Captured, and ROR are all 'messed up'.

Naw.They would be in it.For a last tour.

Doesn't matter cuz Perry won't do it anyway.

[Free]

Monker, damn you. YOU know exactly what the Hell is up. Don't put down Perry when you know what is up with SA.

PM me.

Nope. I don't think monker realizes any of this. Look at his/her past posts.

[Red13JoePa]

Still think they have a cache of riffs, licks and melodies in the Schon/Cain(/Augeri) warchest that can be polished into some releasable material by fall. Meantime use the Lepps tour to kick some Gens material and the Dozen...and write.

[yak]

He 'relaxed' his voice for years following ROR, and his live voice for the FTLOSM tour still sounded he needed to hack up a hairball.

Instead of practicing pawing his old tails on stage, maybe he should have worked on his voice during that FTLOSM tour...he sounded bad. Now, he takes his place among the has-beens.

I have plenty of evidence that I don't WANT him to sing JOURNEY songs any more, ESPECIALY with Journey itself: The ROR tour, the Bill Graham tribute, the canceled FTLOSM tour, the canceled TBF tour, his 'singing' at the White Sox thing...The guy sounds like crap to me, he cancels tours and doesn't follow through on his obligations. He constantly makes up excuses. He is a has been.

Amen........and Amen.

[Rockindeano]

I have plenty of evidence that I don't WANT him to sing JOURNEY songs any more, ESPECIALY with Journey itself: The ROR tour,

Whoa. Yak, you know I luv ya, but you're saying Perry had vocal probs and should never sing Journey songs again, yet Augeri resorts to a fucking tape recorder, and you want him to continue singing? My, Journey and it's fans have definetely lowered the bar.

By the way, Perry singing ROR was better than Augeri has ever sang, period. That ain't opinion, but fact. Fuck I wish Fraudgeri could sing half that good nowadays. Hell, he cannot even talk let alone sing!

[TRAGChick]

Perry sounds raspy and without range on TBF and even on FTLOSM....He 'relaxed' his voice for years following ROR, and his live voice for the FTLOSM tour still sounded he needed to hack up a hairball.

Nope....excuse me, I have GOT to answer this:

I was 6th ROW in Poughkeepsie, NY for the FTLOSM tour..."hair ball"?? I DON'T THINK SO!

His voice was SO POWERFUL, that I had to put in my earplugs to save my hearing from SERIOUS "ringing", which my friend had the next day - she was sorry she did not follow my advice....his voice was so sonically powerful....there's ABSOLUTELY NO WAY that he had a "vocal problem" on that tour.

After that date, yes, he DID cancel the rest - he was supposed to be in New Haven, CT (which I ALSO had tix for) - so I was DAMN LUCKY that I had the NY State tix.

[*Laura]

He is a has been.

I really don’t think so.A "has been" is an artist who doesn’t get any interest from anyone anymore.No one can say that about Steve Perry.The mere fact that after all these years his name can light up a Journey forum or that people still believe in his voice speaks volumes.I say this "has been" can step back in the limelight anytime he wants without being concerned about his position in the top five AOR singers.

[Rockindeano]

Wow, right on the money.

Monker just got owned....agian. Fuckin' dickweed.

[PROPERRY]

That is just wishful thinking on Monker's part that Perry is a "has been".

Perry has a HUGE fan base that will always love & support him , no matter what he does regarding singing for the fans. It doesn't matter "what key" Perry sings in either, the FANS LOVE HIM & HIS VOICE, and would buy his music up in a heart beat!!!!

Lori

[Rockindeano]

Dammit, I have agreed with Lori 3 times in a row.

Perry DOES have such an unique voice. Even when he talks he has that sound. What Monker was saying is he thinks that Perry can't sing like Departure or Escape, or ROR anylonger. So what? At least he can sing. Augeri can't even talk without cracking.

[r@y]

Anybody could sing like the Perry of today. I can go to a baseball game and scream out DSB just as good as him.

Wow, I am impressed....

But you'd have to pay people money for them to listen to you sing....

Perry can acapella DSB, in any fuckin key, at any fuckin event...put it out on a CD, at a premium...and guess what..???

yeah, you know the answer to that...

scream out DSB as good as Perry....what a joke...


Ray

[PROPERRY]

Anybody could sing like the Perry of today. I can go to a baseball game and scream out DSB just as good as him.

Wow, I am impressed....

But you'd have to pay people money for them to listen to you sing....

Perry can acapella DSB, in any fuckin key, at any fuckin event...put it out on a CD, at a premium...and guess what..???

yeah, you know the answer to that...

scream out DSB as good as Perry....what a joke...


Ray

Well GOD help those poor fans at the baseball stadium that would be sitting around MONKER having to listen to HIM sing ANYTHING! They would be covering their ears & running out of the stadium to get away from him!!

Lori

[Red13JoePa]

Dammit, I have agreed with Lori 3 times in a row.

Perry DOES have such an unique voice. Even when he talks he has that sound.

Hold on a goddam minute here, Flopper.
When I agreed with Dave28's post that Perry had such a unique voice making it hard for Augie to follow you turned your bullshit barrels on us a "stupid shits."

Now you kill yourself sucking up to Lori who said the same thing. Now your credibility dissipation light is blinking.