Could it be Steve Augeri?

by **wildone** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:47 pm

Rockn'deano wrote:
TheOptiMystic wrote:No, you are on a crusade for a reason that not very many of us can figure out, but it definitely seems personal to me. Again, I stand by my statement that the guys couldn't have been nicer people and took the time to chat with every single fan that they met. I got to meet Neal again two summers ago, and he was just as accomodating then as he was the first time.

I don't know why you're doing this, but I can think of at least a dozen "artists" right off the top of my head that could be accused of ripping people off, and Journey is not one of them.

Just an observation here, but the more you rant and rave about this, the less credible you become.....

Dano

Go back and suck mommy's tit. You are clueless.

These guys put on a great show! People go, love it, then go buy a cd or dvd. They are buying cd's and dvd's because of the awsome performance they put on. The problem is, they didn't put on an awesome performance. They all walked on that stage knowing that what they were doing was bullshit. They also thought they knew they would never get caught. Guess what, they did. And they will surely hit a troubled path these next few weeks and months. I am glad they are pissed, stressed and worried...they all should be. Every single one of these gius are getting rich off a fucking tape. There is NO talent in faking it to a tape. NONE.

Get this through your heads. You will see this week that I succeeded in what I wanted to achieve.

lmao moms tit....

by **Dano** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:52 pm

Get this through your heads. You will see this week that I succeeded in what I wanted to achieve.

Yep, making yourself out to be a complete jerk!! You've completely succeeded already in my book. You can quit while you're ahead.

There was no need to respond so rudely to my posts. I don't know you from Adam and you slammed on me the way you're acting toward every other rational person (and Journey fan, which you clearly are not) on this forum.

If there is indeed a "tape" as you claim there is, Mr. Inside Information, I thought your claims were about the lead vocals only. Now you're alleging that the whole band is playing to tape, which is complete and utter BS.

Please do us all a favor and get a hobby! Geez!

Dano

by **Rockindeano** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:01 pm

Hey Euro, I know you are a Euro because of your name. Anyway, I am as big a fan as there is for this band. Ask anyone here, excet Eric, because Slingblade flatout has no clue. Everyone knows I am not a Perry Loon and supported this lineup 100%.

For the last time, for you slow learners. I accuse Journey of lip synching the LEAD VOCALS only. They play live music to the lipped vocal. That is how Neal is allowed to play variations of his leads and chorus riffs and magically end up back where he is supposed to when Fraudgeri returns to tape.

These guys, the 4 Neal, Deen, Ross and Cain are as good as any 4 mucisians on a stage together, period. Unfortunately, and I mean this, Augeri sadly can't bring it anylonger. Not even close. You will see next Friday, 13.

This is NOT a vendetta, but it is a wake up call for my band. My band you ask? Yes, my band. Wasn't the code of the road from Journey, that is was always the fans' band? What the Hell happened? It is now a fans supported karaoke show playing at am ampitheatre near you.

I am right on this. You will all see soon.

by **LAWoman** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:02 pm

Rockn'deano wrote:
Get this through your heads. You will see this week that I succeeded in what I wanted to achieve.

You have gone off the deep end.

by **ForceInfinity** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:03 pm

Funny, I didn't see any lip syncing going on in the Reno/Tahoe show last year. I know he busted one line during Escape where he completely missed it (voice nowhere to be found or anything). Picked back up afterwards.

*shrugs* What the hell do I know. I've been to shows where the voice didn't quite make it...been to shows where he's on. Seen a show where Deen busted a drum and so you could tell something was amiss from the percussion. Only so much you can massage without a significant number of people noticing

by **Dano** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:21 pm

Okaaaaay, Deano. I am going to respond to you one more time (against my better judgement) and then that's it, because it's obvious you cannot be reasoned with at this point. Regardless, I'll give it one more go.

First off, you might want to go and re-read your posts, especially the ones directed at me. You have quite clearly gone from alleging Augeri's vocals are canned to claiming that "the whole band is playing to tape". It's right there in black and white, in more than one post on this board, so you might want to pay more attention to what you're typing. You can try to backpedal all you want, but you have clearly gone from saying Steve Augeri to "the band" on this forum.

You might also want to re-read my original post, which is where I state that I have seen the band with Augeri many times up close and have never seen or suspected any lip-synching going on. I'm a musician as well, and would be able to pick up on that in a heartbeat. Also, he certainly has ad-libbed and vamped enough each time that I've seen them. Kinda hard to lip-synch the name of the town they're playing at in the middle of a line of a song!

Lastly, I am not a "Euro", not that there's anything wrong with that. LOL. Don't know where you'd possibly come to that conclusion based on my nickname. I was born and bred in the good old US of A.

Now I will go back to ignoring you, and save my comments for some people who can engage in intelligent discussion without resorting to insults and name-calling.

Dano

by **Rockindeano** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:26 pm

Okay, my last post to you. The only part he actually sings, rather talks, is once in a great while, he might say, "hello Toront" or "You rock Baton Rouge." Everything else is faked, 100%.

The band plays live around the taped lead vocal which is going into their ear monitors. Got it?

By the way, you cannot tell he is lipping even if your are 5 feet from Him.

How the hell you think they have gotten away with it for 4 years?

by **augeri1** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:34 pm

Rockn'deano wrote: Unfortunately, and I mean this, Augeri sadly can't bring it anylonger. Not even close. You will see next Friday, 13.
I am right on this. You will all see soon.

?? Friday? damn Deano, you told me the tour would be canceled..you keep flip floppin like this and I'm gonna get to the point where I don't believe a word you say :lol:

by **JrnySuxBalls** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:35 pm

Rockn'deano wrote:
The band plays live around the taped lead vocal which is going into their ear monitors. Got it?

True, technically they have a click track in their ears, or at least Dean
does, to keep everything in sync. I always thought "Deen has good time,
why does the band need that? Oh it's for keyboard pads & background
vocals...and maybe more...?

by **Abitaman** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:21 pm

TheOptiMystic wrote:Hey All,

Despite being a long-time fan of this site, I've never posted on the forums before, but I felt I had to considering the subject.

Like many of you here, I too have seen Steve Augeri with Journey several times now, all from great seats close to the stage except for one show, and on four different tours. I can honestly say that I have never seen Steve lip-synch once in all those times. He definitely gives his all.

As far as the sound clips go, I listened to both Faithfully and BGTY. I agree with what someone else already posted-that Steve had the crowd sing along as it was the end of the show and he might've been tired out. Plus the fact that the song always turns into a singalong by default, at least at the shows I've attended. But I've gotta say that Dean's claims that the posted MP3 of BGTY has the vocals from the 2001 DVD used on it to be complete bollocks. I just don't hear that at all.

Most of all, I don't understand this vendetta that he's on against the band, and where his level of venom is coming from.

All this being said, I wanted to also mention that I had the privilege of meeting all the guys back on the initial "Vacation's Over" tour after Augeri first joined, which was a huge thrill for me. I don't think anyone else has mentioned this amongst all the mudslinging going on, but let me go on the record and say that Steve was one of the nicest and most down-to-earth guys you'd ever want to meet. As a matter of fact, all the members of the band were. They do care about the fans, and I believe they truly appreciate (and deserve) our support.

Let's all try to keep this all in perspective and wait for the facts, if there is anything to be reported. My guess is this is all a bunch of BS, but I will continue to support my favorite band regardless of what comes of this. As a fan, their music has given me so much joy and great memories over the years, and nothing can change that.

Just MHO. Be good to yourselves...

Dano

Deano is EGO

by **Abitaman** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:23 pm

TheOptiMystic wrote:Okaaaaay, Deano. I am going to respond to you one more time (against my better judgement) and then that's it, because it's obvious you cannot be reasoned with at this point. Regardless, I'll give it one more go.

First off, you might want to go and re-read your posts, especially the ones directed at me. You have quite clearly gone from alleging Augeri's vocals are canned to claiming that "the whole band is playing to tape". It's right there in black and white, in more than one post on this board, so you might want to pay more attention to what you're typing. You can try to backpedal all you want, but you have clearly gone from saying Steve Augeri to "the band" on this forum.

You might also want to re-read my original post, which is where I state that I have seen the band with Augeri many times up close and have never seen or suspected any lip-synching going on. I'm a musician as well, and would be able to pick up on that in a heartbeat. Also, he certainly has ad-libbed and vamped enough each time that I've seen them. Kinda hard to lip-synch the name of the town they're playing at in the middle of a line of a song!

Lastly, I am not a "Euro", not that there's anything wrong with that. LOL. Don't know where you'd possibly come to that conclusion based on my nickname. I was born and bred in the good old US of A.

Now I will go back to ignoring you, and save my comments for some people who can engage in intelligent discussion without resorting to insults and name-calling.

Dano

Don't let Deano get to you, if he can't get you on his side, he will cuss you and try to be little you, typical EGO move-ERIC

by **LAWoman** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:34 pm

Rockn'deano wrote:
By the way, you cannot tell he is lipping even if your are 5 feet from Him.

How the hell you think they have gotten away with it for 4 years?

So now your allegations are that SA has not been singing live for 4 years? I haven't seen them yet this year so I can't comment on the present, but I know your "4 years" allegation to be absolutely false.

I find it amazing that you can refute anyone's counter to your position just by saying "you cannot tell he is lipping even if your 5 feet from Him." So somehow you were able to figure it all out, but it is invisible to everyone else. So how did you stumble on this controversy that rocked your world?

by **Rockindeano** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:27 am

LAWoman wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote:
By the way, you cannot tell he is lipping even if your are 5 feet from Him.

How the hell you think they have gotten away with it for 4 years?

So now your allegations are that SA has not been singing live for 4 years? I haven't seen them yet this year so I can't comment on the present, but I know your "4 years" allegation to be absolutely false.

I find it amazing that you can refute anyone's counter to your position just by saying "you cannot tell he is lipping even if your 5 feet from Him." So somehow you were able to figure it all out, but it is invisible to everyone else. So how did you stumble on this controversy that rocked your world?

You are about as dumb as they come, you know that? You are a BT er coming in here to flood this place with confusion.

by **LAWoman** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:31 am

Rockn'deano wrote:
LAWoman wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote:
By the way, you cannot tell he is lipping even if your are 5 feet from Him.

How the hell you think they have gotten away with it for 4 years?

So now your allegations are that SA has not been singing live for 4 years? I haven't seen them yet this year so I can't comment on the present, but I know your "4 years" allegation to be absolutely false.

I find it amazing that you can refute anyone's counter to your position just by saying "you cannot tell he is lipping even if your 5 feet from Him." So somehow you were able to figure it all out, but it is invisible to everyone else. So how did you stumble on this controversy that rocked your world?

You are about as dumb as they come, you know that? You are a BT er coming in here to flood this place with confusion.

That's a very persuasive response.

by **NealIsGod** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:32 am

Yeah, when he has no defense, the other person becomes a BTer. Classic Deano. :lol:

by **Rockindeano** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:34 am

We'll see who laughs last, won't we?

by **NealIsGod** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:36 am

Rockn'deano wrote:We'll see who laughs last, won't we?

You have been saying that for a long time. Will we see it before Journey's 2012 tour?

by **LAWoman** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:40 am

Rockn'deano wrote:We'll see who laughs last, won't we?

I don't find any of this funny and I won't be laughing either way. You are taking this like some kind of a personal crusade. You are the one who will be crushed if things don't turn out like you want or imagine. It's a band.

by **zino** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:22 am

I have been lurking on this topic for a wek or so now, and iif I have this correct, we have 1 sweedish Jouralist, saying all this, two bad bootlegged songs and a bunch of allegations against the band. I underdtand we are all fans of the band, but to say that Augeri has been faking it for 4 years is a bit off the deep end wouldn't you say. If people in the first few rows couldn't see he was lipping the words, dont you think this story would of broke in the US a while ago, all the shows over the last 4years has too be about 150 or more and NO ONE, NOT A SINGLE PERSON, ZERO, NOBODY has said a word about this before.
What about the guy in "the blue hat nest to the drum kit" he was really the keyboard tech. Also how could you tell those "photos of Kevin Elson" were in Sweeden, that could of been any park in the world

I would need to see concret evedience of this myself to beleive this, what that is right now I dont know, but 1 guy with 2 bad boots really doesnt do it fir me. I was 4 the row last year in Hollywood Fla and I thought the concert was great and thought Augeri sound that night was a bit all over the place some songs he was better on than others, but it was a great show. Does this mean they then go use voice tracks the next year, I would highy doubt it.
Has this story even been picked up any where in the States?

Just my points of few

Cant wait till July 10th West Palm Beach

Zino

by **zino** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:22 am

I have been lurking on this topic for a wek or so now, and iif I have this correct, we have 1 sweedish Jouralist, saying all this, two bad bootlegged songs and a bunch of allegations against the band. I underdtand we are all fans of the band, but to say that Augeri has been faking it for 4 years is a bit off the deep end wouldn't you say. If people in the first few rows couldn't see he was lipping the words, dont you think this story would of broke in the US a while ago, all the shows over the last 4years has too be about 150 or more and NO ONE, NOT A SINGLE PERSON, ZERO, NOBODY has said a word about this before.
What about the guy in "the blue hat nest to the drum kit" he was really the keyboard tech. Also how could you tell those "photos of Kevin Elson" were in Sweeden, that could of been any park in the world

I would need to see concret evedience of this myself to beleive this, what that is right now I dont know, but 1 guy with 2 bad boots really doesnt do it fir me. I was 4 the row last year in Hollywood Fla and I thought the concert was great and thought Augeri sound that night was a bit all over the place some songs he was better on than others, but it was a great show. Does this mean they then go use voice tracks the next year, I would highy doubt it.
Has this story even been picked up any where in the States?

Just my points of few

Cant wait till July 10th West Palm Beach

Zino

by **verslibre** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:22 am

Ahhhhhhhhhh....I just ripped a juicy one!

by **heardonthestreet** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:37 am

Quick, lock this thread! :lol:

MR

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