Knew before the show??

by **perryfaithful** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:15 am

"During recent shows he has struggled with his voice and as I understand, he was aware before the show that this would be his last performance of this tour"

How did you know this Andrew?

This idea really concerns me considering how poorly the show went. Why not cancel the show all together because of his health instead of forcing him to go on and then having his last night with Journey be such a disaster? Especially for him personally. They certainly had the lousy reviews up til this night to back up the cancellation, they didn't need another even BIGGER one. I have to say I feel for Steve Augeri. Sure he may have handled it with dignity but it still is not right that he had to end his run like that!

by **StyxCollector** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:18 am

Put this one on the backs of Azoff, Schon, and Cain if you ask me.

Steve A did nothing but his job - which at this point as we all know was damn near impossible. Steve Augeri should have never been placed in that situation. For that Journey and its management should be ashamed.

by **NealIsGod** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:19 am

Yeah, that was a lousy way to go out. But, supposedly, he will be back, right? :?:

by **StyxCollector** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:20 am

NealIsGod wrote:But, supposedly, he will be back, right?

Suuuuuuuuuuure he will.

by **Citygirl** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:26 am

I really hope I'm wrong, but I don't buy the whole "only for this tour" thing.

I believe he does have a throat problem... anyone would with all that touring. But to me, there's something very strange about the whole thing. As I mentioned already, there was all that stuff going on here and fans almost killing each other. Then this happens right after all that.

I'm gonna be shot on here for saying this, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're just saying it's temporary so we don't get too upset basically. I mean, if you're a kid and someone you like's going away permanently... it's always "he's going away for a little while but he'll be back," but once they've been away for a wee while and you're used to it you get told they're away for longer... etc. Not saying any of us are kids... okay I'm only about 2 years past the kid zone... but what I am saying is that maybe we're being told it's not permanent for the same reason.

by **perryfaithful** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:27 am

NealIsGod wrote: he will be back, right?

Why do I doubt that?

by **Liam** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:27 am

StyxCollector wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:But, supposedly, he will be back, right?

Suuuuuuuuuuure he will.

WOW. This is REALLY reminding me of Styx now. StyxCollector (or any other Styx fans who remember Paradisetheatre.com)...remember right when the Brave New World tour started Tommy Shaw said something like "When Dennis is back to 100%, we'll gladly have him back touring, but until then, Lawrence Gowan". (Of course this is NOT verbatum...but he DID say something of the like)
I personally don't see Augeri coming back at all. It's all "conveinience" right now.

by **NealIsGod** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:28 am

perryfaithful wrote:
NealIsGod wrote: he will be back, right?

Why do I doubt that?

I do, too. But I hope he is back.

by **StyxCollector** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:52 am

Escape79 wrote:WOW. This is REALLY reminding me of Styx now. StyxCollector (or any other Styx fans who remember Paradisetheatre.com)...remember right when the Brave New World tour started Tommy Shaw said something like "When Dennis is back to 100%, we'll gladly have him back touring, but until then, Lawrence Gowan". (Of course this is NOT verbatum...but he DID say something of the like)
I personally don't see Augeri coming back at all. It's all "conveinience" right now.

I remember that stuff. At the time it was the party line. Then Dennis did my interview that fall around his solo best-of CD and all hell broke loose.

You don't make a change like this as a temporary one. JSS may be getting an audition as a permanent spot, but if JSS doesn't stay, I don't see Augeri returning.

by **Adikeo** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:16 am

The very definition of chronic (as in chronic throat infection) is : of long duration, continuing, marked by frequent recurrence.

Which says to me Steve won't be coming back. Not if he wants to keep his health. His health should be more important than any tour.

by **whocares** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:33 am

Adikeo wrote:The very definition of chronic (as in chronic throat infection) is : of long duration, continuing, marked by frequent recurrence.

Which says to me Steve won't be coming back. Not if he wants to keep his health. His health should be more important than any tour.

exactly what I was thinking Adikeo. Chronic was a key word in that release. I don't think he'll be back at all either, I think he's gone through his last concert with these guys.

by **Citygirl** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:41 am

That's why I say they're probably just saying it's temporary because they know some people will be upset.

by **whocares** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:46 am

of course they will, they already are (you know where).

It slays me to see people saying give Journey with Augeri a chance. Anyone who would give up on the band now is crazy, then when it's announced that JSS is "filling in", suddently they no longer support the band. That is including people posting here.

by **StyxCollector** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:52 am

whocares wrote:of course they will, they already are (you know where).

Yeah, they're flipping out.

But are they more upset than when Steve Perry was no longer officially in the band? Short term memory.

Despite the horrible circumstances and poor handling, it was actually done for the right reasons.

by **whocares** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:55 am

I didn't think they'd address the OTHER issue though. That's really the saddest part for me, besides they are seemingly leaving S.A. out to dry. Can you imagine him even leaving the house much, knowing people will be all over him about this? The poor guy is gonna be worse off than he was a few days ago.

the way it was handled throught eh official site saying there wasn't an official release until it was posted on that site, and saying they had no idea how Andrew could have gotten ahold of it, or that he leaked it on purpose to try to get the scoop, just stinks to high heaven. So much for all the "Angels".

by **StyxCollector** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:58 am

whocares wrote:I didn't think they'd address the OTHER issue though. That's really the saddest part for me, besides they are seemingly leaving S.A. out to dry. Can you imagine him even leaving the house much, knowing people will be all over him about this? The poor guy is gonna be worse off than he was a few days ago.

Yeah, they hung him out there pretty good - and not just from a looks standpoint. There will always be a big ? next to Augeri and can he do it. I feel sorry for him on that level - I truly do.

Whoever (cough*Neal-Azoff-Cain*cough) allowed him to stay on the road the past year may have damaged him permanently. That's the real crime here. Tapegate aside, I'd be pissed if I was Augeri at those guys. What leverage didn't he have if he knew his problems but couldn't stop the train wreck?

by **StyxCollector** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:02 am

whocares wrote:the way it was handled throught eh official site saying there wasn't an official release until it was posted on that site, and saying they had no idea how Andrew could have gotten ahold of it, or that he leaked it on purpose to try to get the scoop, just stinks to high heaven. So much for all the "Angels".

Are you surprised? Seriously ... the word "dysfunctional" comes to mind.

I thought Styx was screwed up, but this makes the Styx soap opera tame. Their squabbles have never harmed anyone.

by **whocares** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:03 am

oh well, Barry Bonds (the scum that he is) won't have an * by his name in the record books, so I doubt Augeri will over time. But it stinks. They should send him off to parts unknown where people won't recognize him, so he doesn't have to put up with the B.S.

It's sad to think they not only have helped to ruin his voice but possibly his life. I don't admire him at all for the position he is in.

by **StyxCollector** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:10 am

whocares wrote:oh well, Barry Bonds (the scum that he is) won't have an * by his name in the record books, so I doubt Augeri will over time. But it stinks. They should send him off to parts unknown where people won't recognize him, so he doesn't have to put up with the B.S.

It's sad to think they not only have helped to ruin his voice but possibly his life. I don't admire him at all for the position he is in.

Agreed. No *, but there will be unspoken doubt when he hits a stage for those who believed tapegate.

This whole thing just has a wretched stench attached to it. JSS is just stepping in to try to make it better, but someone should be accountable in the end. This is not Augeri's fault he's in this mess.

Let this be a lesson for anyone in bands ...

by **junky** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:13 am

whocares wrote:I didn't think they'd address the OTHER issue though. That's really the saddest part for me, besides they are seemingly leaving S.A. out to dry. Can you imagine him even leaving the house much, knowing people will be all over him about this?

The guy lives in New York City. Very few people here care about this. No one's going to be all over him. There's plenty of bigger celebs with bigger problems wandering around this town. He'll be fine.

by **perryfaithful** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:44 am

The guy absolutely "took one" for the band!

by **Andrew** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:55 am

perryfaithful wrote:
How did you know this Andrew?

I just did. Sad for all concerned how the show went, but Steve was a class act.

by **Ash** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 11:06 am

NealIsGod wrote:
perryfaithful wrote:
NealIsGod wrote: he will be back, right?

Why do I doubt that?

I do, too. But I hope he is back.

Thats what Tommy Shaw said about Dennis DeYoung too - and we know how that ended.

MR

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