Attention Perry Heads

by **Eric** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:21 am

Are you guys planning on giving JSS a chance?

by **Red13JoePa** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:28 am

Eric wrote:Are you guys planning on giving JSS a chance?

Prediction: No.

Maybe a little credit at first but wait until he gets comfortable then IT will start.

by **chickpea** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:29 am

I guess since I'm a fan of Perry and not such a fan of the Augeri-led lineup then I would be classified as a "perryhead" even though I've never trashed Augeri or the current group on here.

With that said, obviously for me, replacing Augeri with JSS doesn't have the same sting as when Perry was replaced. I've listened to some of the clips of JSS this morning since I read the news. He sounds pretty good, but I won't be rushing out to buy a ticket for a show. It's not that I don't think he's capable. It's that I prefer to hear the old songs sung the way I remember them by the voice that I remember and like the best.

I hope that Steve Augeri gets the medical attention he so obviously needs and is able to get back to business with Journey. Even though I am not a fan of his, I know he has many, and I know how they are feeling right now.

by **StyxCollector** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:30 am

If anything, this would be fuel for the fire to staunch Perry supporters of an "I told you so - no one could fill Steve P's shoes!".

by **heardonthestreet** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:37 am

[quote="Eric"]Are you guys planning on giving JSS a chance?[/quote

............................

If he shows enough strength of character. He has a good voice and I would hope that he will make himself heard. Perry's Journey is untouchable. If Jeff can make an unforgettable Journey, more power to him.

by **whocares** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 3:20 am

It only becomes a Perry issue when those trying to get "Perryheads" to respond in a negative way, call it a Perry issue. Give up on trying to make it about Perry, It's not and won't be. Give it up.

by **ohsherrie** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:59 am

whocares wrote:It only becomes a Perry issue when those trying to get "Perryheads" to respond in a negative way, call it a Perry issue. Give up on trying to make it about Perry, It's not and won't be. Give it up.

Well said. It was all the "Perry who" and "Who needs Perry" and "Perry can't sing anymore, we have one who can" and "Perry was such an asshole" kind of bullshit I was reading on all the Journey boards back in 2000 that got me involved in all this in the first place. I care no more about this JSS person than I did about Augeri joining Journey, as long as people don't try to take the legacy away from Perry. But then, I think the legacy has been taken away from Journey altogether, so it's irrelevant now.

by **ohsherrie** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:09 am

Sorry for the double post. I'm having problems on this site today. I keep getting the Critical Error message.

by **NealIsGod** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:18 am

ohsherrie wrote:Sorry for the double post. I'm having problems on this site today. I keep getting the Critical Error message.

Me too. Hacker, maybe?

by **Red13JoePa** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:19 am

Yep, been a rough, slow day.
I haven't been able to see the site for 5 hours.

by **Journeynut** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:25 am

I have loved Journey since 1979. I have never thought that any of the band members were replaceable. You don't just take one out and put in another no matter how much talent the replacement has and expect to keep going like nothing happened. It's like messing with a perfect recipe and leaving out the most important ingredient.

Is this what the future is? A revolving door of lead singers?

by **NealIsGod** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:28 am

Journeynut wrote:I have loved Journey since 1979. I have never thought that any of the band members were replaceable. You don't just take one out and put in another no matter how much talent the replacement has and expect to keep going like nothing happened. It's like messing with a perfect recipe and leaving out the most important ingredient.

Is this what the future is? A revolving door of lead singers?

Who knows? But no one is forcing you to stay for the ride.

by **Liz22562** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:29 am

Times a changing....get use to it. As long as Journey has Neal, Ross, Jon....let 'em rock.

by **ohsherrie** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:29 am

NealIsGod wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:Sorry for the double post. I'm having problems on this site today. I keep getting the Critical Error message.

Me too. Hacker, maybe?

Hope not!

by **Marabelle** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:55 am

Critical error here as well.

Oh JSS will bring his own stuff to Journey. He's going to keep it rockin! He's not a Steve Perry or Steve Aurgeri; but he can rock.

by **tammy** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:19 am

I've seen JSS in concert with SS & his solo stuff - he will definitely have his own style in Journey. I was open to seeing SA, too, and although I believe these guys (and Deen Castronovo) are very talented singers in their own right - I just chose to stay loyal with listening to Steve Perry singing these songs...that's just my preference & what is close to my heart. Everyone is different & that is fine with what you feel. Some here who were strong SA supporters now don't want to attend any J. concerts with a different singer, so it is understandable.

Absolutely, nothing against JSS or SA, it is just how I personally feel.

by **PROPERRY** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:53 am

I don't know know much about JSS music, I have listened to a few clips this morning of his. The ones I heard were pretty good & he has STRONG vocals, but I won't be buying tickets for the concert, I'll be sticking with the Perry/Journey that I've always loved for so many years!!!

Lori

by **FTLOSM** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:05 am

I miss Perry and consider myself a Perryhead, but I also really dig JSS and have for years, as for Augeri songs like Remember Me stick in my head as pretty good stuff, but I am MORE than willing to go see Journey now with JSS

by **EightyRock** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:22 am

Depends on if they continue with the same old, same old. You know, greatest hits tours.
I think JSS can make some noise if he makes it known that he is NOT going to try to imitate Perry in any way. They need to re-work the hits with Soto's own spin on them and fly it. I also think Neal & Jon need to suck it up and start telling the TRUTH about what they've faced trying to replace Perry. Start being honest that they tried, but that it can't be done, so they are reworking the old stuff to Soto's style and writing more new stuff. How many voices do they have to blow out before they get the idea that the hits were written in Perry's stratospheric vocal range?
If they make a fresh start, I think they will gain more fans than anything else. After all, Augeri was a blip on Journey's radar screen, nothing more, if the truth be told. He might have been a real prince of a guy, but there just was no chemistry. That wasn't meant to be harsh, just honest. I say give Soto a chance.

by **SF-Dano** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:56 am

After all, Augeri was a blip on Journey's radar screen, nothing more, if the truth be told.

Steve Augerie was a member of Journey for as long as Steve Perry was a member of Journey. Perry ,78 to '86, SA '98 to '06. Now, if you are talking about the success of the band, them maybe I can agree with your statement a little. And no, I do not count the ten years between ROR and TBF as time that Perry was a member of Journey. There was no Journey during that time, IMO.

And as far as chemistry goes, I think they had great chemistry. IMO, Arrival is a great CD, and Generation is a damn fine offering also. SA simply burned his voice out. It can be argued that the same happened to Perry.

I look forward to seeing Journey with Soto and seeing how things are changed up. One thing that Soto does have over SA is that he has a much more powerful voice, IMO. Even from when SA started with Journey.

So what does it all mean in the long run. Maybe the end is near. But I for one hope for the Journey to continue and maybe change direction a bit. Neal has always wanted to Rock, Soto is a rocker who can also handle a beautifully written ballad, and let's not forget Deen. Could there be a few duets in the future for Journey? I am going along for the ride. So in the words of SA "....so come along".

by **EightyRock** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:08 am

SFDano: Yeah, I'm talking about the success of the band..all the great songs they still play, not just the number of years each singer put in. Arrival had some decent tunes, I'll give ya that, but Augeri didn't write ANY of them with Neal & Jon. 13 was mostly Neal's baby and Gens was...well...don't ask me about that one. Too many singers and I'll stop at that.

by **Magwheels** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:38 am

ohsherrie wrote:
whocares wrote:It only becomes a Perry issue when those trying to get "Perryheads" to respond in a negative way, call it a Perry issue. Give up on trying to make it about Perry, It's not and won't be. Give it up.

Well said. It was all the "Perry who" and "Who needs Perry" and "Perry can't sing anymore, we have one who can" and "Perry was such an asshole" kind of bullshit I was reading on all the Journey boards back in 2000 that got me involved in all this in the first place. I care no more about this JSS person than I did about Augeri joining Journey, as long as people don't try to take the legacy away from Perry. But then, I think the legacy has been taken away from Journey altogether, so it's irrelevant now.

That is exactly what makes it so sweet for me.

You were saying...Monker(etc)?

by **perryfaithful** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:51 am

I'll tell you who has a REAL problem at this time! Someone named "Iluvsteveaugeri" who has tickets for SIX shows coming up! Hurtin' gal....lol

by **wildone** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:56 am

perryfaithful wrote:I'll tell you who has a REAL problem at this time! Someone named "Ilovesteveaugeri" who has tickets for SIX shows coming up! Hurtin' gal....lol

well thats no big deal really they would've listened to steve a with tape gate or not!!!so i'd imagine there still gonna keep there 5* tickets cough cough ..lol But if anyone else out there has that kind of money to throw away ...please oh please throw it my way!!! :wink:

by **Carrington** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:14 pm

Nice one Wildone!........

I think the band is just looking to get through with the rest of the dates now and take a breather and let all of this cool down. I would hope, in retrospect, that Neal and Jon are kicking themselves in the ass for pushing Augeri to do this, but I know better, I'm sure thier egos are too big for them to concieve of that thought though. I think that JSS will do a good job, but I don't see him as a long term solution......I will still cling to the fantasy of Perry working it out and touring again with them, the chance will be there after this tour is done......

tell me I'm stupid, it'll will never happen......I don't give a shit, I'll believe it if I want to and if it doesn't, well I still have DVD and CD's to take me back......

Oh, and I would be pissed too if I had 6 shows worth of tickets.........enjoy "ILuvSteveaugeri"!!!

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:17 pm

SF-DANO wrote:And as far as chemistry goes, I think they had great chemistry. IMO, Arrival is a great CD, and Generation is a damn fine offering also.

Look, I don't wanna put Augeri down, but c'mon.
How many of the songs on those albums was he the principal writer for?
Very little.
I think Tall Stories is brilliant!
But Augeri's writing contributions in Journey left me cold.
The only good ones were ones that Schon and Cain wrote the majority of.
The exception being "Beyond the Clouds".
Largely written by Augeri and containing a little of that old Tall Stories magic.

by **FormerJrnyFan** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:18 pm

Carrington wrote:Nice one Wildone!........

I think the band is just looking to get through with the rest of the dates now and take a breather and let all of this cool down. I would hope, in retrospect, that Neal and Jon are kicking themselves in the ass for pushing Augeri to do this, but I know better, I'm sure thier egos are too big for them to concieve of that thought though. I think that JSS will do a good job, but I don't see him as a long term solution......I will still cling to the fantasy of Perry working it out and touring again with them, the chance will be there after this tour is done......

tell me I'm stupid, it'll will never happen......I don't give a shit, I'll believe it if I want to and if it doesn't, well I still have DVD and CD's to take me back......

Oh, and I would be pissed too if I had 6 shows worth of tickets.........enjoy "ILuvSteveaugeri"!!!

They have a long way to go... 'til the end of September!

by **Tree** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:30 pm

I will be the first to admit I am a "Perryhead" and proud of it! I think though for me it wont matter WHO is singing the music I just feel like the songs "belong" to the original lineup that had a hand in writing them and Ive never been a major fan of cover songs or groups or singers that do cover songs so thats what its all boiled down to for me. Its not just with Journey but with any group......the original (meaning the first time I heard the song being sung) cannot be done better in my opinion.....especially if I like the song when I hear it for the first time. That being said.....Ive never bashed Augeri so I have no reason to bash anyone else......just for me I prefer the original. :lol:

by **A Fire Inside** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:28 pm

EightyRock wrote:SFDano: Yeah, I'm talking about the success of the band..all the great songs they still play, not just the number of years each singer put in. Arrival had some decent tunes, I'll give ya that, but Augeri didn't write ANY of them with Neal & Jon. 13 was mostly Neal's baby and Gens was...well...don't ask me about that one. Too many singers and I'll stop at that.

Augeri being a blip just based on his sales isn't accurate, because you have to remember that these guys were old when they brought him in and hardly anyone had heard anything about Journey since 97 or maybe even 1986 when Augeri joined up. AOR acts just don't sell like they did in the 80s... he might have had a fighting chance if this had been 1978 instead of 1998. I don't like to immediately discount his talent because of his sales in a decade that has basically moved on from this genre.

MR

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