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Postby Argus » Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:28 am

Rockn'deano wrote:
ace wrote:
A Fire Inside wrote:
Rockn'deano wrote:Uh dude, if you saw Journey last year you didn't see Augeri live.

As far as Cain being weird, he is next on my list. He can get the fuck out too, as far as I'm concerned.

JSS...wow, dude has testes. JSS=Journey/Soul/Sirkus. Dude brings in a value that can only take this band places.

I think you should direct your spiteful energy toward world issues instead of working on tearing an AOR band apart...


Yep.. agreed.. JC is the Journey Conductor. He leads the band on stage. I guess some people :roll: can't let go of conspiracy theories and must always have a place in some spotlight to fuel their ego-centric fires. :wink: :!:


Hey ace, I 'm still waiting to be fined by RIAA. You getting lazy, or giving up?


:?: I work for RIAA now :?: cool can't wait for my paychecks to start coming in :wink:
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Postby JrnySuxBalls » Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:31 am

johnroxx wrote:
Doesn't change the fact that Deano spouts fiction as though it was fact.


You saw one of the first shows that were live. The rest were not.
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Postby johnroxx » Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:33 am

whocares wrote:
johnroxx wrote:You're entitled to your opinion, of course.

Doesn't change the fact that Deano spouts fiction as though it was fact. And yes, I did call him on it. I wish more people would. The guy needs a serious reality check.

;^)


as do the people who won't let it go. :roll:


...as well as those who post for the sake of it, despite having nothing of substance to add to the topic at hand.

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Postby johnroxx » Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:34 am

JDouglee wrote:
johnroxx wrote:
Doesn't change the fact that Deano spouts fiction as though it was fact.


You saw one of the first shows that were live. The rest were not.


I've yet to see concrete evidence of that.

And my point was, and remains, that Deano's statement was false...which it was.

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Postby nolippin » Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:35 am

Well, at least you are making progress. You are starting to catch on, but haven't realized that the same applies to your posts!


johnroxx wrote:
whocares wrote:
johnroxx wrote:You're entitled to your opinion, of course.

Doesn't change the fact that Deano spouts fiction as though it was fact. And yes, I did call him on it. I wish more people would. The guy needs a serious reality check.

;^)


as do the people who won't let it go. :roll:


...as well as those who post for the sake of it, despite having nothing of substance to add to the topic at hand.

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Postby johnroxx » Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:37 am

nolippin wrote:Well, at least you are making progress. You are starting to catch on, but haven't realized that the same applies to your posts!


Where's the substance in your posts in response to me here, today, Lippster?

That's what I thought...

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Postby JrnySuxBalls » Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:39 am

johnroxx wrote:
JDouglee wrote:
johnroxx wrote:
Doesn't change the fact that Deano spouts fiction as though it was fact.


You saw one of the first shows that were live. The rest were not.


I've yet to see concrete evidence of that.


I told you to go check it out. You didn't. Believe what you want. It's done, they have a live
singer now. And thank God.
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Postby nolippin » Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:40 am

Well, it's obvious that you are nothing here but a troll. I think the best thing the rest of us can do is just ignore this little man.


johnroxx wrote:
nolippin wrote:Well, at least you are making progress. You are starting to catch on, but haven't realized that the same applies to your posts!


Where's the substance in your posts in response to me here, today, Lippster?

That's what I thought...

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Postby johnroxx » Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:48 am

nolippin wrote:Well, it's obvious that you are nothing here but a troll.


The "troll card"...so predictable.

yaaawwwnnn....

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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:49 am

johnroxx wrote:
The "troll card"...so predictable.

yaaawwwnnn....



The troll card may be often invoked, but that doesn't make it any less accurate.
The band has started fresh on Friday.
I am excited for their future.
Can't you do the same.
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Postby johnroxx » Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:57 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
johnroxx wrote:
The "troll card"...so predictable.

yaaawwwnnn....



The troll card may be often invoked, but that doesn't make it any less accurate.
The band has started fresh on Friday.
I am excited for their future.
Can't you do the same
.


I will always be excited for the band's future, regardless of whether Augeri returns, or JSS (a fine talent who I've had the great pleasure of meeting) remains.

Why on earth would you question that, based on what I've said?

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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:58 am

johnroxx wrote:Why on earth would you question that, based on what I've said?


Because the lip-synch scandal (no matter what side you're on) is a thing of the past.
Let it lie, man, let it lie.
The band has done right by its fans and I, for one, am ecstatic.
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Postby whocares » Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:59 am

as right as they can for now.
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Postby Aaron » Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:16 am

I've been thinking this JSS deal through a bit more. I remember hearing "Believe in Me" last year and immediately getting pissed off. Its clearly a "Journey" song and I liked it, but Journey wasn't doing anything on a new record (before Generations was released). So, if JSS is now in Journey, maybe they can get on with it. This song pretty well rocks and is as close to Journey as anything I've heard from JSS. Have a listen and let me know what you think. I'm still noodling on this deal.

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Postby nolippin » Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:19 am

Wasn't there some talk about Faith in the Heartland originally being written for Soul Sirkus??? They didn't like it for SirkUS, so it ended up on a Journey CD???



Aaron wrote:I've been thinking this JSS deal through a bit more. I remember hearing "Believe in Me" last year and immediately getting pissed off. Its clearly a "Journey" song and I liked it, but Journey wasn't doing anything on a new record (before Generations was released). So, if JSS is now in Journey, maybe they can get on with it. This song pretty well rocks and is as close to Journey as anything I've heard from JSS. Have a listen and let me know what you think. I'm still noodling on this deal.

L8r,

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Postby JrnySuxBalls » Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:22 am

nolippin wrote:Wasn't there some talk about Faith in the Heartland originally being written for Soul Sirkus??? They didn't like it for SirkUS, so it ended up on a Journey CD???

Harm's Way actually. :wink:
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Postby Aaron » Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:23 am

nolippin,

It seems there was some talk of FITHL being written for Soul SirkUS but I can't remember for sure. My memory isn't that good anymore. : ) Deano, what's the scoop on this one?

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Postby nolippin » Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:24 am

It was Harm's Way??? What's the story???



JDouglee wrote:
nolippin wrote:Wasn't there some talk about Faith in the Heartland originally being written for Soul Sirkus??? They didn't like it for SirkUS, so it ended up on a Journey CD???

Harm's Way actually. :wink:
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Postby JrnySuxBalls » Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:27 am

nolippin wrote:It was Harm's Way??? What's the story???



JDouglee wrote:
nolippin wrote:Wasn't there some talk about Faith in the Heartland originally being written for Soul Sirkus??? They didn't like it for SirkUS, so it ended up on a Journey CD???

Harm's Way actually. :wink:

It was written from the SS days, not completed, and JRNY finished it off.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:27 am

Both, "Faith in the Heartland" and "Out of Harm's Way" were initially written for "Planet US" and then were brought into "Soul Sirkus" and eventually found their way into "Journey".
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Postby Abitaman » Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:28 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Both, "Faith in the Heartland" and "Out of Harm's Way" were initially written for "Planet US" and then were brought into "Soul Sirkus" and eventually found their way into "Journey".


Both great songs too-ERIC
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Postby nolippin » Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:38 am

Interesting...so both were started by JSS and Neal?? for Soul SirkUS??

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Both, "Faith in the Heartland" and "Out of Harm's Way" were initially written for "Planet US" and then were brought into "Soul Sirkus" and eventually found their way into "Journey".
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Postby Argus » Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:51 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
johnroxx wrote:Why on earth would you question that, based on what I've said?


Because the lip-synch scandal (no matter what side you're on) is a thing of the past.
Let it lie, man, let it lie.
The band has done right by its fans and I, for one, am ecstatic.



Amen! Good to see you posting again!
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:54 am

nolippin wrote:Interesting...so both were started by JSS and Neal?? for Soul SirkUS??


No. Neal when into a writing frenzy a while back and he wrote a bunch of riffs and stuff. He took most of this stuff and made a solo record and alot of it went with him into Planet Us. Then, after that went awry, he took them into Sirkus. JSS added lyrics and made structural/musical changes to the Neal material he dug and other Neal material he left alone. Jon Cain heard some of the unused material and whipped it into shape for "Generations".
For example, its reported that Jon heard what Neal had already written for "Out of Harm's Way" and thought instantly, "this sounds like war".
He then put on his lyrical cap and went to town on it.
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Postby knox » Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:57 am

Well, since my thread was hijacked, I will make a few statements regarding the shots at Dean. I don't know him from from the guy driving past me on the freeway, but you have to admit something...

Journey made a change
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Re: New Era For Journey

Postby odessa » Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:21 am

knox wrote:This is all just my speculation, but allow me to wax philosophically.

I hope this is a fresh chapter in Journey's history. It is my opinion that Soto is the change Journey has needed for years now. You don't replace Perry with a soundalike. (For those that say Augeri was not hired to be a vocal "clone", go back and watch Deen say that he was Steve Perry with a perm on Separate Ways during BTM). You replace Perry with a singer who has his own style, who brings something different to the table.

I keep hearing people say "This is just temporary, Augeri will be back". I am not buying that for even a second.

I also don't think you can judge ANYTHING on fan acceptance from this tour. It is my understanding that most of the crowds are DL fans, and Journey is viewed as a warm-up band. With Augeri, I would tend to agree with this view.

It is no secret that I am not an Augeri fan. I don't know much about Soto, but I like what I hear when he tones his voice down from screamer to singer. I am pulling for Soto like the Augeri Heads pulled for Augeri.

I believe Journey is going to open things up, get noticed, and finally write something worth listening to. In my opinion, Generations was a joke - a horrible album. I want them to find time to write this year, get in the studio next year, and become a HUGE blip on the radar screen.

JOURNEY IS BACK ! In a way that hasn't happened since Trial By Fire :D .

Finally, something to get excited about with the band, with the internet boards, and with the music.


Agree 100%!
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Postby odessa » Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:43 am

nolippin wrote:So, what reason would he have for keeping you around then? Andrew has asked that the BT chatter stop. I believe that would mean from both sides.

Give it a rest. It's become very boring and high schoolish, IMO.

johnroxx wrote:
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YankeeRose wrote:I hope Steve Augeri is back soon and healthy. I am glad I got to see them live with Augeri.


Uh dude, if you saw Journey last year you didn't see Augeri live.

As far as Cain being weird, he is next on my list. He can get the fuck out too, as far as I'm concerned.

JSS...wow, dude has testes. JSS=Journey/Soul/Sirkus. Dude brings in a value that can only take this band places.

Maybe Andrew keeps you around for the "amusement factor." Can't see any other possible reason why he would.

;^)


It's not just you that feels this way, believe me. I feel it's boring and childish too!
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:46 am

jrnysc wrote:I only worry about Jonathan. Did you notice him being strange last night? I read a couple of reviews that stated he seemed to be somewhere else, and going through the motions. I wondered what his take on this would be.


JC has been like that for about 3 years!
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Postby JrnySuxBalls » Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:51 am

knox wrote:Well, since my thread was hijacked, I will make a few statements regarding the shots at Dean. I don't know him from from the guy driving past me on the freeway, but you have to admit something...

Journey made a change

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Postby Marabelle » Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:56 am

i like jss.
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