GUFF & Steve Perry - I Can See It In Your Eyes

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Postby Deb » Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:12 am

PROPERRY wrote:
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fredinator wrote:Shania: Did you listen to his interview? What did you think, if you did? I listened to part of it and he sure talked about Neal A LOT, I thought...

I've listened to the whole thing,Fred.I know some people thought it was a boring interview,but I would disagree.
I don't know what exactly was expected of him,but if that means "Hey everyone,I am here to tell you that I'm in the studio recording my brand new album"...please!That's ridiculous!
If SP ever decides to do an album he will not break the news in a radio interview among jokes and memories.An even like that would be much more professionally orchestrated.The radio show would be a way to promote something new,not to officially announce it.

So,knowing that he will not reveal a new solo poject,I wanted to hear other things...I sure did.
What struck me was that when he was asked how does he feel sitting in the studio and watching a band recording,aside of saying that he sits back and "bites his fists",he said something else...almost the same wording he used before releasing FTLOSM:"I am getting kind of creative again".Then,just like now,he backed away from the business for some long years,and did the same thing he is doing now - recording and producing for/with other musicians.

It's like deja vu.

My feeling was that behind the jokes and the laughs during this interview,underneath his amused tone of voice,SP was trying to say he is in a good place again.Didn't want to reveal too much,didn't want to give away his intentions,because,as always,he doesn't want to be pressured.I remember what he said about his appearance at the HWOF and why he didn't tell anyone he was going to be there..."I had to lie to everybody,just so I could have the choice to choose."
It really makes sense to me,and I don't blame him for being secretive and vague about possible solo recordings.
Can you imagine how many people would bug him about a new album?All the rumors and the speculations that would arise?
SP just doesn't need that,he's had enough throughout the years.

My take is that if SP will record a new album,he will want to do it in peace,at his own pace and we will find out only when the record will be done and ready to be released.
I for one,am eagerly waiting to be shocked. :wink: 8)




Excellent Post!! Agree with you whole heartedly!

I thought his interview was FAR from boring. I enjoyed hearing from him! No pressure from this Perry fan, IF he does it, I'll be VERY HAPPY, and if he never does it, I still will remain his fan! :D

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Somebody needs to poke the bear again! :lol: If you didn't hear the interview, won't have a clue what I'm talking about.
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Postby JeremyP » Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:15 am

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Somebody needs to poke the bear again! :lol: If you didn't hear the interview, won't have a clue what I'm talking about.


Hear that Neal? Solo album! :P
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Postby PROPERRY » Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:37 am

strungout wrote:
PROPERRY wrote:
Shania wrote:
fredinator wrote:Shania: Did you listen to his interview? What did you think, if you did? I listened to part of it and he sure talked about Neal A LOT, I thought...

I've listened to the whole thing,Fred.I know some people thought it was a boring interview,but I would disagree.
I don't know what exactly was expected of him,but if that means "Hey everyone,I am here to tell you that I'm in the studio recording my brand new album"...please!That's ridiculous!
If SP ever decides to do an album he will not break the news in a radio interview among jokes and memories.An even like that would be much more professionally orchestrated.The radio show would be a way to promote something new,not to officially announce it.

So,knowing that he will not reveal a new solo poject,I wanted to hear other things...I sure did.
What struck me was that when he was asked how does he feel sitting in the studio and watching a band recording,aside of saying that he sits back and "bites his fists",he said something else...almost the same wording he used before releasing FTLOSM:"I am getting kind of creative again".Then,just like now,he backed away from the business for some long years,and did the same thing he is doing now - recording and producing for/with other musicians.

It's like deja vu.

My feeling was that behind the jokes and the laughs during this interview,underneath his amused tone of voice,SP was trying to say he is in a good place again.Didn't want to reveal too much,didn't want to give away his intentions,because,as always,he doesn't want to be pressured.I remember what he said about his appearance at the HWOF and why he didn't tell anyone he was going to be there..."I had to lie to everybody,just so I could have the choice to choose."
It really makes sense to me,and I don't blame him for being secretive and vague about possible solo recordings.
Can you imagine how many people would bug him about a new album?All the rumors and the speculations that would arise?
SP just doesn't need that,he's had enough throughout the years.

My take is that if SP will record a new album,he will want to do it in peace,at his own pace and we will find out only when the record will be done and ready to be released.
I for one,am eagerly waiting to be shocked. :wink: 8)




Excellent Post!! Agree with you whole heartedly!

I thought his interview was FAR from boring. I enjoyed hearing from him! No pressure from this Perry fan, IF he does it, I'll be VERY HAPPY, and if he never does it, I still will remain his fan! :D

Lori


Somebody needs to poke the bear again! :lol: If you didn't hear the interview, won't have a clue what I'm talking about.



Oh I heard the interview. The "Poke the bear" remark was funny! :lol: He sure has a clever sense of humor. And yea , just give Perry a gentle little poke from all us fans!! :wink:

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Re: GUFF & Steve Perry - I Can See It In Your Eyes

Postby AlienC » Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:07 pm

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Genius, it is NOT a new song. Been out from Journey since 83. And NO, you cannot definitely hear perry. He is so mixed in and is no way clear or loud.


Wow, I thought it was from the Trial By Fire era. So I guess they recycled it like "In Self-Defense"?

No, It was written in rehersal in Oakland prior to recording TBF. Definately NOT 1983.
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Postby fredinator » Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:29 pm

Noone will probably answer this (**sigh**), but in this song I Can See It In Your Eyes, is Steve singing ALL of the background harmonies, does anyone know? If so, seems like he did a lot of singing on this song? Can anyone tell?
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Re: GUFF & Steve Perry - I Can See It In Your Eyes

Postby JeremyP » Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:35 pm

AlienC wrote: No, It was written in rehersal in Oakland prior to recording TBF. Definately NOT 1983.


Thanks for clearing that up.

It's my understanding that when Journey moved into their rehearsal space, the first thing they jammed on was a bunch of classic Journey tunes. Can I ask, were you present for that? And if so, how did they sound?
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Postby JeremyP » Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:37 pm

fredinator wrote:Noone will probably answer this (**sigh**), but in this song I Can See It In Your Eyes, is Steve singing ALL of the background harmonies, does anyone know? If so, seems like he did a lot of singing on this song? Can anyone tell?


I kinda think that it's all Steve.
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Re: GUFF & Steve Perry - I Can See It In Your Eyes

Postby AlienC » Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:06 am

JeremyP wrote:
AlienC wrote: No, It was written in rehersal in Oakland prior to recording TBF. Definately NOT 1983.


Thanks for clearing that up.

It's my understanding that when Journey moved into their rehearsal space, the first thing they jammed on was a bunch of classic Journey tunes. Can I ask, were you present for that? And if so, how did they sound?

A couple of points for clarification.
#1. Journey's rehersal space was the original rehersal hall, first occupied by Larry Graham (Graham Central Station) Journey moved in afterwards, then moved out in late 80's. It was then housing Neal's stuff and recording studio. It was first run by Hawkeye, Neal's tech from the glory days. Then he was fired and a couple of mob types slithered in under false pretenses, running the studio, pocketing the cash, and never paying rent. When they were evicted (finally) Neal took over operations again, and that's when I was hired to do a renovation and overhaul on the studio. Neal re-openend the studio for public use, we booked out to Tracy Chapman for over a year, and then it was Journey time again.

#2. When they first played together again, they jammed on some standard rock tunes, before going into the Dirty Dozen. I taped every minute of those sessions and the tapes were last in the possession of management, gathered together with the Masters and other detrius from the writing sessions.

There was some transposing of keys for the Journey songs, necessitated by the shift (down) in range of SP's voice. This was my first indication that there would be "resistance" to playing those particular songs, by a specific entity.They do not sound the same when dropped more than 2 whole steps, and everyone knew it.

The coolest songs from those warm up jams ( they did that every morning to knock off the sleepy eyes) were the Led Zep covers and the Hendrix covers. Smitty went in "drum clinic" mode when explaing to the band how Bonham's "lazy hand" technique is essential to the Zeppelan sound. I had a copy of that but the master tape was eaten by an errant deck during transfer ( pre- omnipresent CD burning days) Needless to say the Hendrix tunes ( All along the Watchtower and Manic Depression } were stunningly brilliant.

It was a high point in my life to have been associated and involved with such creative minds. Such creativity is essential to life as far as I'm concerned.

It's too bad they aren't able to express it more openly.
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Postby fredinator » Thu Dec 14, 2006 7:03 am

JeremyP--Thanks for answering me and also for all the downloads--you are very sweet...
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Re: GUFF & Steve Perry - I Can See It In Your Eyes

Postby JeremyP » Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:00 am

AlienC wrote:
JeremyP wrote:
AlienC wrote: No, It was written in rehersal in Oakland prior to recording TBF. Definately NOT 1983.


Thanks for clearing that up.

It's my understanding that when Journey moved into their rehearsal space, the first thing they jammed on was a bunch of classic Journey tunes. Can I ask, were you present for that? And if so, how did they sound?

A couple of points for clarification.
#1. Journey's rehersal space was the original rehersal hall, first occupied by Larry Graham (Graham Central Station) Journey moved in afterwards, then moved out in late 80's. It was then housing Neal's stuff and recording studio. It was first run by Hawkeye, Neal's tech from the glory days. Then he was fired and a couple of mob types slithered in under false pretenses, running the studio, pocketing the cash, and never paying rent. When they were evicted (finally) Neal took over operations again, and that's when I was hired to do a renovation and overhaul on the studio. Neal re-openend the studio for public use, we booked out to Tracy Chapman for over a year, and then it was Journey time again.

#2. When they first played together again, they jammed on some standard rock tunes, before going into the Dirty Dozen. I taped every minute of those sessions and the tapes were last in the possession of management, gathered together with the Masters and other detrius from the writing sessions.

There was some transposing of keys for the Journey songs, necessitated by the shift (down) in range of SP's voice. This was my first indication that there would be "resistance" to playing those particular songs, by a specific entity.They do not sound the same when dropped more than 2 whole steps, and everyone knew it.

The coolest songs from those warm up jams ( they did that every morning to knock off the sleepy eyes) were the Led Zep covers and the Hendrix covers. Smitty went in "drum clinic" mode when explaing to the band how Bonham's "lazy hand" technique is essential to the Zeppelan sound. I had a copy of that but the master tape was eaten by an errant deck during transfer ( pre- omnipresent CD burning days) Needless to say the Hendrix tunes ( All along the Watchtower and Manic Depression } were stunningly brilliant.

It was a high point in my life to have been associated and involved with such creative minds. Such creativity is essential to life as far as I'm concerned.

It's too bad they aren't able to express it more openly.


Thanks for this!! I've wondered about this particular moment in Journey history for the longest time. "All Along The Watchtower..." man that must have ROCKED!!
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Postby JeremyP » Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:02 am

fredinator wrote:JeremyP--Thanks for answering me and also for all the downloads--you are very sweet...


Thanks Fred, I really appreciate that. :)
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