Journey, would you consider this?

by **NealIsGod** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:55 am

I love Kate Bush.

by **Greg** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:58 am

Jeremey wrote:The Seether thing was more of a background vocal on an Evanescence track, really not a true duet. There is only one duet that rises above mediocrity and gimmicks - that is the incomprable Lionel Ritchie and Diana Ross singing "Endless Love."

Well, maybe calling it a true duet isn't what I am really thinking of. Amy Lee sang lead vocals on the second verse of the song (Broken) you're referring to. It was actually a Seether song and Seether re-recorded the track with Amy Lee sharing vocals.

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:02 am

Jeremey wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:

I thought Henley and Patty Smyth sounded pretty good together. I agree with you on the whole Stevie Nicks thing. She is viewed in many circles as a legend woman rocker, but has never been my cup of tea. I'll take Ann Wilson's vocals (Heart) ANY DAY! That woman could sing her ass off!

John from Boston

Ann's amazing. But the funny thing is, women rock vocalists were just never my cup of tea. There are some great ones out there, but for some reason my favorite women vocalists never fell into that catagory. Give me any of these over any of the greatest hard rock singers any day:

• Oleta Adams
• Roberta Flack
• Tina Turner
• Sade
• Bjork
• Bonnie Raitt
• There's an amazing contemporary gospel singer with one of the best voices I've ever heard. Can't recall her name.

billie holiday could be on your list..

by AR » Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:11 am

A couple of my favorite female vocalists not mentioned yet:

Jann Arden
Heather Nova
Steve Perry (sorry, couldn't resist)

Jann Arden's album "Living Under June" is terrific. Heather Nova is more of an alternative rocker, but I love most of her stuff.

Also, Patti Russo, who has sang backing vocals with Meat Loaf for many years is just an INCREDIBLE singer. Not sure if she has any solo rock stuff or not though.

by **Greg** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:15 am

Jason 980 wrote:thats a dumb ass idea! Just because you like a certain singer does not mean that everyone else does. Her voice doesn't even match their music, and if there was to be a duet it would have to be someone with a lower register.

On the other hand, just because you DON'T like the singer doesn't mean nobody else does. I mentioned Amy Lee because of several reasons: she's got a strong, rock voice, Evanescence is quite popular and it exposes others to Journey that wouldn't touch them otherwise, and I believe if Journey decided to go toward a harder rocking sound, that this would give them credibility in those respects.

by **ArnelRox** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:23 am

NealIsGod wrote:I love Kate Bush.

Me too. She is totally awesome. Always was & still is. She might be a bit old for this project tho. Not sure how much she appeals to the teenyboppers.

by **ArnelRox** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:25 am

Enigma869 wrote:• Sade

Let's save her for Perry. That's something I'd love to hear.

by **NealIsGod** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:29 am

JourneyRox wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:• Sade

Let's save her for Perry. That's something I'd love to hear.

She is damn sexy in concert.

So is Sarah Brightman.

by **lowdbrent** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:44 am

Enigma869 wrote:Well, I can tell you that I'm one fan who has ZERO desire to hear Journey singing a duet with some chick! Sorry...Just not my thing! I know it's been thrown around on this board in the past, but I think Journey needs to make themselves musically relevant again without the aid of gimmicks! This isn't the NFL..."trick plays" aren't going to get the job done!

John from Boston

That band sucks. I have the latest CD. It makes me want to buy a box of razor blades and cut myself, buy a gun and kill my past offender and then pull out my Boston collection and hear some real melody, harmonies, and un-ProTool'd guitars. I make records like that for young bands. It is all slice, dice and depression. I have enough worries without spending good money listening to a clueless chick sing about hers.

by **Greg** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:24 am

lowdbrent wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:Well, I can tell you that I'm one fan who has ZERO desire to hear Journey singing a duet with some chick! Sorry...Just not my thing! I know it's been thrown around on this board in the past, but I think Journey needs to make themselves musically relevant again without the aid of gimmicks! This isn't the NFL..."trick plays" aren't going to get the job done!

John from Boston

That band sucks. I have the latest CD. It makes me want to buy a box of razor blades and cut myself, buy a gun and kill my past offender and then pull out my Boston collection and hear some real melody, harmonies, and un-ProTool'd guitars. I make records like that for young bands. It is all slice, dice and depression. I have enough worries without spending good money listening to a clueless chick sing about hers.

Evanescence is a hot band. I'm sure some won't agree, but I believe they have loads of talent. It doesn't always have to sound like Journey to be good.

I'm not saying Journey HAS to do a duet with someone like Amy in order to score radio hits, but I believe they do have to present something that is attractive and different in order to attract record companies who have the power to push them.

I'm also not saying they have to change their sound either, but there has to be something they can do that will make people stand up and take notice, rather than to say..."well this is just another 80's corporate rock band who's still trying to push their old sound." I hope that's Jeff's presence and energy in the band.

by **Jeremey** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:30 am

One of the most amazing things I've ever seen a band due to ignite some fire in their sound was when Roland Orzabal and Curt Smith came across Oleta Adams, singing in a piano bar in Kansas City, and brought her in and wrote a whole record around her voice and piano. No one would have ever put together the music of Tears for Fears with the soulful bluesy voice of someone like Adams, but it was amazing, and they pretty much had their best record ever.

Nothing like that would work for Journey, and their situation is nowhere close to being similar, but I use that because 1) I like to talk about Oleta Adams, and (2) it goes to show that thinking outside the box does work for bands.

by **lowdbrent** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:34 am

To each his/her own.

Take away the production in ProTools, etc, and you will have much less enjoyment. 90% of their sound is manufactured. I listen to bands/artists like this: If we were bombed back to the stone age, would this band be able to be musical? There is a difference between making music and rythmic noise sliced and diced on a digital audio workstation. Industry-wide, talent is down, and the bands today cannot make musical magic acoustically in real time.

by **Greg** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:48 am

lowdbrent wrote:To each his/her own.

Take away the production in ProTools, etc, and you will have much less enjoyment. 90% of their sound is manufactured. I listen to bands/artists like this: If we were bombed back to the stone age, would this band be able to be musical? There is a difference between making music and rythmic noise sliced and diced on a digital audio workstation. Industry-wide, talent is down, and the bands today cannot make musical magic acoustically in real time.

Samething was said about Journey, REO Speedwagon, and Starship back in the 1980's. That was the main argument as to why grunge came about in the early 90's.

I suppose you haven't had the experience of listening to Amy Lee with just an acoustic piano and her voice. It's not all protools guitars like you claim.

by **Greg** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:53 am

Jeremey wrote:One of the most amazing things I've ever seen a band due to ignite some fire in their sound was when Roland Orzabal and Curt Smith came across Oleta Adams, singing in a piano bar in Kansas City, and brought her in and wrote a whole record around her voice and piano. No one would have ever put together the music of Tears for Fears with the soulful bluesy voice of someone like Adams, but it was amazing, and they pretty much had their best record ever.

Nothing like that would work for Journey, and their situation is nowhere close to being similar, but I use that because 1) I like to talk about Oleta Adams, and (2) it goes to show that thinking outside the box does work for bands.

Yes....see Jeremey understands where I am coming from. It's not a question of specifics as to what different things (if any) that the band could try to get noticed...it's just the fact of thinking outside the box...outside of Journey, and coming up with something that is musically enjoyable. While it still has Journey's stamp on it, their personality, it can be something that is fresh and new, yet people could still say.."wow this is Journey!"

We all say we want new music and obviously the concept of trimming back the dirty dozen has come into our minds, I truly believe that means we want something that is different, fresh, and new. Not necessarily something that isn't Journey at all, but just something that lets us know the Journey can be as musically relevant to those stupid record execs now as they were in the 80's. Journey certainly has the talent and the creativity to pull off anything.

MR

Journey, would you consider this?

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