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Postby knox » Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:25 am

I just watched the Seperate Ways clip on You Tube (still trying to burn the MTV video out of my memory). This had to be close to the end of the tour.

So, here is the part I might get blasted for, but what the heck.

I thought Perry wore the Leopard shirt the entire tour. When did he change? Did he wear any others besided the leopard and the red/black one? The red/black seems to fit in more with the Frontiers Era than the Escape era. At least Perry still had his long hair in the video.

Shallow and girlie, I know... But does anyone have any answers?

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Re: Meaningless but curious

Postby froy » Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:27 am

knox wrote:I just watched the Seperate Ways clip on You Tube (still trying to burn the MTV video out of my memory). This had to be close to the end of the tour.

So, here is the part I might get blasted for, but what the heck.

I thought Perry wore the Leopard shirt the entire tour. When did he change? Did he wear any others besided the leopard and the red/black one? The red/black seems to fit in more with the Frontiers Era than the Escape era. At least Perry still had his long hair in the video.

Shallow and girlie, I know... But does anyone have any answers?

Thanks.




That was after the Escape tour and just prior to the Frontiers tour thats why its different.
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Postby JeremyP » Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:30 am

I could be wrong, but I think that clip is from one of the "Day At The Green" shows that Journey played at in 1982.

I always thought it was neat to see Steve sing that song with long hair. lol

It's weird how we associate certain songs with different looks of the band, like I can't hear a ROR song and not picture Perry's feathered mullet-ish thing.
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Postby froy » Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:34 am

JeremyP wrote:I could be wrong, but I think that clip is from one of the "Day At The Green" shows that Journey played at in 1982.

I always thought it was neat to see Steve sing that song with long hair. lol

It's weird how we associate certain songs with different looks of the band, like I can't hear a ROR song and not picture Perry's feathered mullet-ish thing.


No your not wrong its from 82 DOTG just prior to the Frontiers tour
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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:58 am

He wore that Goddamned "Heaven" shirt on Frontiers tour.

Yeah, he wore that red and black one too.

Fuck I need to shower. I feel gay all over. Thanks Knox you big dick.
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Postby Enigma869 » Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:01 am

That "Separate Ways" video might be the most gay video I ever saw...And before all you yahoo fanatics come out of the woodwork to tell me that I'm somehow a gay basher, I don't mean gay, as in homosexual! Hell, I'm from Massachusetts. We're the only progressive state in the entire country that allows this to be solemnized by "marriage" :twisted:


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Postby knox » Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:09 am

RockinDeano wrote:He wore that Goddamned "Heaven" shirt on Frontiers tour.

Yeah, he wore that red and black one too.

Fuck I need to shower. I feel gay all over. Thanks Knox you big dick.


Whatever I can do, Deano :lol:

Here ya go, this outa help:

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Thanks for the info. I am not the fashion police, but I am glad you guys know your stuff.

And yes, that Seperate Ways video is perhaps one of the worst videos EVER! I think it was banned from ever being played on MTV again.

I seriously think that video did some damage to Journey's image. The Chain Reaction and After The Fall didn't help much, either. I know it was the early 80's, but c'mon - if Duran Duran could put out quality stuff why couldn't Journey? Did anyone actually WATCH those things before they put them on air? Tongue in cheek is one thing. These things were Major Swiss Cheese...

No wonder they lost credibility. Their videos were embarassing! They should have just stuck to Live.


Once again, I am just glad I have something POSITIVE to associate that song with. I still panic when my GH DVD starts on Sep. Ways. I have to shut my eyes and feel my way around the controls to skip to the next song. :shock:
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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:13 am

knox wrote:
Here ya go, this outa help:

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Now I would definitely fuck those guys. I love those two fuckers. Can Boo Berry watch?


I seriously think that video did some damage to Journey's image. The Chain Reaction and After The Fall didn't help much, either. I know it was the early 80's, but c'mon - if Duran Duran could put out quality stuff why couldn't Journey? Did anyone actually WATCH those things before they put them on air? Tongue in cheek is one thing. These things were Major Swiss Cheese...

No wonder they lost credibility. Their videos were embarassing! They should have just stuck to Live.


That is a very valid point. Look at ZZ Top. Those guys got excellent feedback from male concertgoers and fans, because their videos, while all alike, had hot rods and hot chicks. Remember Legs? Fuck, it's all I can do to whip out Big Jim and go to town when I see that video.
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Postby knox » Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:38 am

I don't suppose there is a dvd or audio of the Day On The Green is there?
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Postby Rick » Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:39 am

RockinDeano, you are one crazy/sick opinionated dude. I'm glad to be here because of people like you.
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Postby ohsherrie » Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:42 am

knox wrote: I still panic when my GH DVD starts on Sep. Ways. I have to shut my eyes and feel my way around the controls to skip to the next song. :shock:


An official girlie Perryhead agreeing with you on this. I HATE that damned video and the Chain Reaction one. I think the Perry dance in the After the Fall video is kinda cute though. :wink:
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Postby froy » Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:00 pm

ohsherrie wrote:
knox wrote: I still panic when my GH DVD starts on Sep. Ways. I have to shut my eyes and feel my way around the controls to skip to the next song. :shock:


An official girlie Perryhead agreeing with you on this. I HATE that damned video and the Chain Reaction one. I think the Perry dance in the After the Fall video is kinda cute though. :wink:


Heck I Love Chain Reaction its a 6 man JRNY band and Perry throws Neal to the ground.
After the fall is great also.

I want to make a video for Colors of The Spirit
I will shoot it in Nevada at the Valley of Fire
I can see it in my head right now
The intro a snake flying by and The band in the Red desert Perry up on a cliff dancing around
Its all in my brain.
Someday the follow up to Anyway .
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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:15 pm

froy wrote:
Heck I Love Chain Reaction its a 6 man JRNY band and Perry throws Neal to the ground.
After the fall is great also.


Thta's the ONLY way you will see Perry push Neal down, I can guarantee you Neal would knock Espees beak back through his head and out through the back of his dome.

Dude, back away from the crackpipe. 6 man Journey? There never was a 6 man Journey.
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Postby froy » Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:21 pm

Dude, back away from the crackpipe. 6 man Journey? There never was a 6 man Journey.


Ahh Ahh Deano you are wrong dude
Neal at the bar with Perry who is playing the guitar in the background
Neals brother thats who .

I know my shit ,
6 man JRNY in that video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avVxbD95Kc4
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Postby ohsherrie » Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:29 pm

froy wrote:
I want to make a video for Colors of The Spirit
I will shoot it in Nevada at the Valley of Fire
I can see it in my head right now
The intro a snake flying by and The band in the Red desert Perry up on a cliff dancing around
Its all in my brain.
Someday the follow up to Anyway .


OMG Froy, I can almost visualize it. It would be a true masterpiece in video art. I wish I thought it could really happen. :(
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Postby froy » Sun Dec 31, 2006 12:38 pm

ohsherrie wrote:
froy wrote:
I want to make a video for Colors of The Spirit
I will shoot it in Nevada at the Valley of Fire
I can see it in my head right now
The intro a snake flying by and The band in the Red desert Perry up on a cliff dancing around
Its all in my brain.
Someday the follow up to Anyway .


OMG Froy, I can almost visualize it. It would be a true masterpiece in video art. I wish I thought it could really happen. :(


Im telling you OH Sherrie I have it in my head
It would start out with a rattle snake wisping by on the desert ground
You would see the bom boom on a funky native american drum
It would be a Native American theme set to this killer tune
The part when Perry say's we are One we are one he would be high on a cliff hand in a U shape and he would be yelling it from high on a big red mountain
The band would be on all different levels of the canyon where it would be shot
There would be an eagle flying away at the end into the sunset
Steve Smith would have a very primitive Drum kit
The AHHHHHHHHHHHHH part towards the end would be an Indian chant
I see it so clearly

If you have ever been to the Valley of Fire you would know this is the place for this video
If not goggle it .
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Postby ohsherrie » Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:01 pm

froy wrote:
ohsherrie wrote:
froy wrote:
I want to make a video for Colors of The Spirit
I will shoot it in Nevada at the Valley of Fire
I can see it in my head right now
The intro a snake flying by and The band in the Red desert Perry up on a cliff dancing around
Its all in my brain.
Someday the follow up to Anyway .


OMG Froy, I can almost visualize it. It would be a true masterpiece in video art. I wish I thought it could really happen. :(


Im telling you OH Sherrie I have it in my head
It would start out with a rattle snake wisping by on the desert ground
You would see the bom boom on a funky native american drum
It would be a Native American theme set to this killer tune
The part when Perry say's we are One we are one he would be high on a cliff hand in a U shape and he would be yelling it from high on a big red mountain
The band would be on all different levels of the canyon where it would be shot
There would be an eagle flying away at the end into the sunset
Steve Smith would have a very primitive Drum kit
The AHHHHHHHHHHHHH part towards the end would be an Indian chant
I see it so clearly

If you have ever been to the Valley of Fire you would know this is the place for this video
If not goggle it .


I haven't seen it, I'll google it, but I'm getting the picture anyway. Damn, why did it all have to end too soon?
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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Dec 31, 2006 1:45 pm

froy wrote:
Dude, back away from the crackpipe. 6 man Journey? There never was a 6 man Journey.


Ahh Ahh Deano you are wrong dude
Neal at the bar with Perry who is playing the guitar in the background
Neals brother thats who .

I know my shit ,
6 man JRNY in that video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avVxbD95Kc4


Yep, you are right. I totally misunderstood what you were saying but o well.

Goddammit, does Ross look a CHP cop with that fucking awful looking cookie duster?
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Postby knox » Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:02 pm

Okay, here is another video from Day On The Green.

There is a dvd out there somewhere, and I WANT IT!!!

Anyone know the set list, or what date this was?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9HsKwQ-bWQ&mode=related&search=



PLEASE, I NEED THIS DVD!!!!!
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Postby knox » Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:07 pm

Okay, June 26, 1982... Along with Santana, Gamma, Toto, The Tubes

In additiion : Journey, Cheap Trick, Black Sabbath, Molly Hatchet, Gamma (July 27, 1980)

Now I need BOTH concerts... Were these short sets?


Still looking around :D


Adding: Day On The Green #2: Journey, J. Geils Band, UFO, Thin Lizzy, Nazareth, The Rockets (July 4, 1979).

Love Nazareth's "Love Hurts"


ARE THESE AVAILABLE ANYWHERE??? I am going nuts over here :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Postby froy » Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:11 pm

knox wrote:Okay, here is another video from Day On The Green.

There is a dvd out there somewhere, and I WANT IT!!!

Anyone know the set list, or what date this was?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9HsKwQ-bWQ&mode=related&search=



PLEASE, I NEED THIS DVD!!!!!


There are only 3 songs released from this show
Open Seperate and Whos
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Postby knox » Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:12 pm

Thanks for the info... Now I just need to see OA, though I don't know why - I am tired of that song.

However, I am compelle to see it :cry:
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Postby JeremyP » Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:58 pm

I just realized that this performance is the last we hear of Perry's smooth Escape era tenor before "Frontiers" when he added the gravel edge to his voice that we're familiar with from "Separate Ways" and "Ask The Lonely" and others.

I know he sounded pretty smooth on the "Frontiers" tour, but these Day On The Green performances seem like the end of an era or something.
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Postby Deb » Sun Dec 31, 2006 3:03 pm

froy wrote:
knox wrote:Okay, here is another video from Day On The Green.

There is a dvd out there somewhere, and I WANT IT!!!

Anyone know the set list, or what date this was?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9HsKwQ-bWQ&mode=related&search=



PLEASE, I NEED THIS DVD!!!!!


There are only 3 songs released from this show
Open Seperate and Whos


There is also footage of Don't Stop Believin, Dead or Alive and Party's Over from Day On the Green........not as clear quality as the youtube vids tho.
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Postby knox » Sun Dec 31, 2006 3:12 pm

JeremyP wrote:I just realized that this performance is the last we hear of Perry's smooth Escape era tenor before "Frontiers" when he added the gravel edge to his voice that we're familiar with from "Separate Ways" and "Ask The Lonely" and others.

I know he sounded pretty smooth on the "Frontiers" tour, but these Day On The Green performances seem like the end of an era or something.


Jeremy, that is EXACTLY what I thought when I was watching these. The end of an era.

My favorite Journey times are from 78-81. However, I will now add 82 to that. Something changed between 81 and the recording of Frontiers in 82/release of 83. I know Deano and a lot of other people love Frontiers, but it went downhill for me there.

There was magic during 81/82 that even surpassed my favorite Departure lineup with Rollie.

Funny how we both had the same thoughts about this performance.
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Postby knox » Sun Dec 31, 2006 3:13 pm

Thanks for the info, Strung Out.
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Postby JeremyP » Sun Dec 31, 2006 5:57 pm

knox wrote:
Jeremy, that is EXACTLY what I thought when I was watching these. The end of an era.

My favorite Journey times are from 78-81. However, I will now add 82 to that. Something changed between 81 and the recording of Frontiers in 82/release of 83. I know Deano and a lot of other people love Frontiers, but it went downhill for me there.

There was magic during 81/82 that even surpassed my favorite Departure lineup with Rollie.

Funny how we both had the same thoughts about this performance.


Wow, that is weird!

It seems like a transition or something. Good or bad, Journey was heading somewhere.

I like the Frontiers album a lot except the song "Back Talk" I just think it's kinda cheezy, although Steve Smith is excellent on it. I just wish it could have been an instrumental track. Steve saying, "Don't talk to me with that tone of voice!" is just too much IMO. lol
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