Hot News! God wins the Super Bowl!

[Voyager]

From Daily Kos News:

Sun Feb 04, 2007 at 07:53:15 PM PST

It must be so. The owner (or was it the general manager) said so, on national TV. So did the coach. Let's face it: without God's intervention, Tony Dungy, Peyton Manning, et al would never have had a chance against the godless Chicago Bears. For who could ever imagine that god would favor the Windy City when He could have a chance to bless Indianapolis instead ("if God didn't make no little green apples, and it don't rain in Indianapolis in the summertime"). Of course, god can be a bit petulant sometimes, for He also wanted the team to experience a little adversity--that's why he had Chicago's Devin Hester score a TD on the opening kickoff.

I assume this is the same god who enjoys watching a hundred twenty Iraqis die in a marketplace suicide bombing, who delights in a tsunami that kills hundreds of thousands and spreads His benevolence on the inhabitants of Darfur. Heck, He even knocked off twenty Floridians this week!

I just think it's great that a god so powerful that He can drown New Orleans, foment revolution in Afghanistan and keep Osama bin Laden on the run (you think?) has the time and inclination to bless the Indianapolis football team. Don't you? I suppose it's true: The Lord does indeed work in mysterious ways.

This is really nothing new. Hell, God was always causing the school sports teams to win at my former church that I attended as a kid. Every game that they would pray (in faith) for God to give them the victory, He did. However, as our pastor said, the times when they lost - they simply hadn't prayed with enough faith.

God was too busy to save 300,000 poverty-stricken victims from a tsunami, but He made sure our Christian school basketball team won the state championship.

Here's a pic of the coach giving God all the glory after a victory:



Hallelujiah!

[Voyager]

A friend of mine named Greg recently called and talked to God. Here is the video of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRUyXRmx3ys

I wonder if Deano had anything to do with God's decision on the Super Bowl? Did you twist the Big Guy's arm Dean? I know that you seem to have a lot of pull with Him.

[Carlitto H@kk]

You know, being from Pittsburgh, I LOVE
Tony Dungy because I remember watching him play
for the Steelers back in the 70's.
I watched him as a coach with Chuck Knoll
and I have ALWAYS thought of him as one of the
classiest coaches in the league.
But for some reason, I really have a problem
with this statement that he made after the Super Bowl...

"I'm proud to be the first African-American coach to win this,"
Dungy said during the trophy ceremony. "But again, more than anything,
Lovie Smith and I are not only African-American but also Christian coaches,
showing you can do it the Lord's way. We're more proud of that."

What does that really have to do with the game of football?
And what is Dungy trying to say to the rest of the league?

It just kinda bugs me...

[Rockindeano]

Please, let's let our Lord plan his time accordingly. I don't think he is consumed with NFL scores as he is with the Iraqi conflict

[Voyager]

Please, let's let our Lord plan his time accordingly. I don't think he is consumed with NFL scores as he is with the Iraqi conflict

I agree. God and His buddy G.W. Bush have been over there kicking some major ass, and they are probably pretty too busy with that.

[NealIsGod]

Don't worry, the way the world is headed I think God will be here pre-tty soon...

[conversationpc]

From Daily Kos News:

Sun Feb 04, 2007 at 07:53:15 PM PST

It must be so. The owner (or was it the general manager) said so, on national TV. So did the coach. Let's face it: without God's intervention, Tony Dungy, Peyton Manning, et al would never have had a chance against the godless Chicago Bears. For who could ever imagine that god would favor the Windy City when He could have a chance to bless Indianapolis instead ("if God didn't make no little green apples, and it don't rain in Indianapolis in the summertime"). Of course, god can be a bit petulant sometimes, for He also wanted the team to experience a little adversity--that's why he had Chicago's Devin Hester score a TD on the opening kickoff.

I assume this is the same god who enjoys watching a hundred twenty Iraqis die in a marketplace suicide bombing, who delights in a tsunami that kills hundreds of thousands and spreads His benevolence on the inhabitants of Darfur. Heck, He even knocked off twenty Floridians this week!

I just think it's great that a god so powerful that He can drown New Orleans, foment revolution in Afghanistan and keep Osama bin Laden on the run (you think?) has the time and inclination to bless the Indianapolis football team. Don't you? I suppose it's true: The Lord does indeed work in mysterious ways.

This is really nothing new. Hell, God was always causing the school sports teams to win at my former church that I attended as a kid. Every game that they would pray (in faith) for God to give them the victory, He did. However, as our pastor said, the times when they lost - they simply hadn't prayed with enough faith.

God was too busy to save 300,000 poverty-stricken victims from a tsunami, but He made sure our Christian school basketball team won the state championship.

Here's a pic of the coach giving God all the glory after a victory:



Hallelujiah!

I find it rather funny that some people just get so worked up when an athlete or coach speaks openly about their faith. I think I'm pretty safe in saying that Tony Dungy wasn't saying that God caused, wanted, or even cared about which team won the game. This is just another excuse for anti-religion bigots to spew their hatred.

[conversationpc]

Don't worry, the way the world is headed I think God will be here pre-tty soon...

[Angiekay]

"I'm proud to be the first African-American coach to win this,"
Dungy said during the trophy ceremony. "But again, more than anything,
Lovie Smith and I are not only African-American but also Christian coaches,
showing you can do it the Lord's way. We're more proud of that."

What does that really have to do with the game of football?

Because SOME people believe that God is with them in everything they do and give thanks for the blessings bestowed upon them. I find nothing wrong with Tony(or Lovie saying the same thing in the Championship game)saying thanks for a little help from above. There a few here that could use some as well.

[Carlitto H@kk]

"I'm proud to be the first African-American coach to win this,"
Dungy said during the trophy ceremony. "But again, more than anything,
Lovie Smith and I are not only African-American but also Christian coaches,
showing you can do it the Lord's way. We're more proud of that."

What does that really have to do with the game of football?

Because SOME people believe that God is with them in everything they do and give thanks for the blessings bestowed upon them. I find nothing wrong with Tony(or Lovie saying the same thing in the Championship game)saying thanks for a little help from above. There a few here that could use some as well.

I have absolutely no problem with prayer and people in Sports "thanking God" for all that has been granted to them.
But this comment went beyond that. This comment wasn't about just "thanking God",
it was also a 'subtle' slam to coaches and players that are more vocal, use more
colorful language and that have different styles and techniques to get thier message
across. At least that's the way I took because so much hype was built around Lovie and Tony,
thier strong beliefs and thier quiet, stoic demeaners.
Maybe I took it the wrong way but that's how I interpretted
this remark and why it kinda bothered me.
The last thing we need in ANY sport is the inclusion of religion
as a method or a prerequisite.
Believe me, I live in UTAH now; I know how that feels

[conversationpc]

I have absolutely no problem with prayer and people in Sports "thanking God" for all that has been granted to them.
But this comment went beyond that. This comment wasn't about just "thanking God",
it was also a 'subtle' slam to coaches and players that are more vocal, use more
colorful language and that have different styles and techniques to get thier message
across. At least that's the way I took because so much hype was built around Lovie and Tony,
thier strong beliefs and thier quiet, stoic demeaners.
Maybe I took it the wrong way but that's how I interpretted
this remark and why it kinda bothered me.
The last thing we need in ANY sport is the inclusion of religion
as a method or a prerequisite.
Believe me, I live in UTAH now; I know how that feels

I don't think he was slamming other coaches or players at all. There is a prevailing attitude in sports, pro football in particular, that nice guys don't finish first. He was saying you don't have to be that way in order to have the drive and ambition to finish at the top of your profession.

[SteveForever]

Carlitto,
I sort of understand what you are saying, but when you get kids in sports someday in another state that might not be quite as polite, you are going to see just how bad it can be. My son has been in football, baseball, tennis, swim, and track. Its brutal out there and I think the coach was saying there can be a balanced way to do sports without all the screaming and threats (I've heard that his way is to be calm without the cursing) and even dishonest ways to do business.
This country is way over the top with sports and I thought his comments were refreshing.

[Carlitto H@kk]

I have absolutely no problem with prayer and people in Sports "thanking God" for all that has been granted to them.
But this comment went beyond that. This comment wasn't about just "thanking God",
it was also a 'subtle' slam to coaches and players that are more vocal, use more
colorful language and that have different styles and techniques to get thier message
across. At least that's the way I took because so much hype was built around Lovie and Tony,
thier strong beliefs and thier quiet, stoic demeaners.
Maybe I took it the wrong way but that's how I interpretted
this remark and why it kinda bothered me.
The last thing we need in ANY sport is the inclusion of religion
as a method or a prerequisite.
Believe me, I live in UTAH now; I know how that feels

I don't think he was slamming other coaches or players at all. There is a prevailing attitude in sports, pro football in particular, that nice guys don't finish first. He was saying you don't have to be that way in order to have the drive and ambition to finish at the top of your profession.

I can see that, Dave.
Like I said, I probably miss interpretted what he said.
It justa kinda rubbed me the wrong way the first time I heard it.
Been a fan of Tony's since he played and coached for my Steelers
back in the 70s and 80s. He's like Cowher was last year, one of the true
greats that really deserved a Super Bowl

BTW, I think Rhoades and Adei (sp?) got robbed!
THEY shoulda been Co-MVPs

[conversationpc]

BTW, I think Rhoades and Adei (sp?) got robbed!
THEY shoulda been Co-MVPs

That's what I thought as well.

[ohsherrie]

I think I understand what Voyager is saying. I mean, I've never really thought much about people who receive awards thanking their particular deity, but when you compare someone who just won the Grammy for a gangster rap album thanking God, to someone who just lost everything they own in a natural disaster thanking God for sparing their lives, the former seems to trivialize God's intentions. It could make one wonder which circumstance God saw as being in need of devine intervention.

[Angiekay]

I think I understand what Voyager is saying. I mean, I've never really thought much about people who receive awards thanking their particular deity, but when you compare someone who just won the Grammy for a gangster rap album thanking God, to someone who just lost everything they own in a natural disaster thanking God for sparing their lives, the former seems to trivialize God's intentions. It could make one wonder which circumstance God saw as being in need of devine intervention.

He's got a plan for everyone...not all of them are perfect.

[ohsherrie]

I think I understand what Voyager is saying. I mean, I've never really thought much about people who receive awards thanking their particular deity, but when you compare someone who just won the Grammy for a gangster rap album thanking God, to someone who just lost everything they own in a natural disaster thanking God for sparing their lives, the former seems to trivialize God's intentions. It could make one wonder which circumstance God saw as being in need of devine intervention.

He's got a plan for everyone...not all of them are perfect.

I guess that's one way to look at it.

[NealIsGod]

Yes, do not question Neal's plan for you. Just accept it.

[ohsherrie]

Yes, do not question Neal's plan for you. Just accept it.

Damn, that's a scary thought.

[Carlitto H@kk]

Yes, do not question Neal's plan for you. Just accept it.

Ha!

When I was 11, 12 years old I used
to ROYALLY piss my mother of in Church.
(Itallion Family, BIG Catholics, Yes I was an Alter Boy)

The Sign Of the Cross???

"In the name of the Father
the Son and Steve Perry, Amen"


Mom was not too pleased with me!

[Angiekay]

The Sign Of the Cross???

"In the name of the Father
the Son and Steve Perry, Amen"


Mom was not too pleased with me!

My dad had one better:

Spectacles, testicles, wallet and watch.

[Voyager]

You have to understand, I grew up in a church that was very controlling and basically turned into a cult. Since then I have been quite skeptical when people take it upon themselves to speak for God. For example, what about when some of the families of 9/11 victims openly thanked God for sparing their loved ones? What does that say to the people who lost loved ones? It says that your peeps were not worthy of God sparing them.

Sorry, but when I saw 300,000 people die in the Indonesian tsunami without God's intervention, I find it hard to believe that God caused someone to win a football game. I'm not saying there is no God, I just don't believe mankind has an accurate perception of God.

[ohsherrie]

What you have to consider Voyager, is that a lot of people thank God because it's an auto-response or because they feel it's the right thing to do. Whether they feel it's right for religious, Karma, PC or PR reasons, they're not thinking beyond that. It's not meant to be a reflection on anyone else. Only people like you and I who occasionally look beyond the surface of the auto-response nature of it question it.

[Angiekay]

What you have to consider Voyager, is that a lot of people thank God because it's an auto-response or because they feel it's the right thing to do. Whether they feel it's right for religious, Karma, PC or PR reasons, they're not thinking beyond that. It's not meant to be a reflection on anyone else. Only people like you and I who occasionally look beyond the surface of the auto-response nature of it question it.

No offense, but maybe it's just people like you who don't understand it, so they just chalk it up to an "auto response". If someone in *your* daily life does something good or nice for you or to you and you say thank you, is it an "auto response" for you or do you really mean it? Same concept. It's called appreciation and graditude...If you can't understand it, don't knock those who do.