Just for the Fashion Police :)

[Enigma869]

I didn't care for things that he was posting about Perry and posted as much and he came onboard with name calling and whining.

Huh???? Am I missing something here??? When and where has Jeff ever been insulting or defmatory toward Perry (and I'm not talking about good-natured ribbing)??? If you read his original post in this thread, you'd see that he was actually making light of a situation that was raised on BT where one of those yahoos accused him of not dressing appropriately for Journey! Jesus...one of those morons actually accused the guy of being too tall to front Journey...GIVE ME A BREAK! I actually give Jeff a lot of credit for not telling these yahoos what he really thinks, because I wouldn't be anywhere near as controlled!

For the record, I've read a lot of postings and interviews of Jeff's and have NEVER, EVER, EVER read a single disparaging word about Steve Perry. In fact, I think he's gone out of his way to be quite complimentary of Perry and speak of the musical influence Perry was in his career! Listen...if fans don't like the guy as Journey's front man...FINE! That's certainly your right. That said, let's not turn this into Jeff is saying disparaging things about Perry, because I haven't seen any of that!


John from Boston

[donnaplease]

I can draw two conclusions from the posted pic of Perry.

1. He's dating a 6'1" chick and is getting a lot of action = COOL pants
2. He's dating a 6'1" dude and smoking a lot of pole = FAG pants = NOT cool

You forgot the RIGHT answer.

3. It was 19fuckin94, grunge was in, and he's was trying to roll flannel to keep up with "the look." Very unPerrylike maneuver.

Yeah, he had quite the grunge hairstyle going there too, huh Red???

For the record (and take note...this is coming from a "loon"), I HATED that whole look for Steve Perry. I agree, Red, a very 'unPerrylike maneuver', indeed...

[Its Me]

The fact that Jeff takes the time to interact with the fans is really cool and not all bands do this kind of thing. Just saying that there are very few people in the business that make themselves as available as he does.

well said Ed!!!

[Rockindeano]

You all are too much.

Do you not know that Soto threw out a barb at an old dust up he had with HOTS on the now deceased Journeyforums? Jesus, relax a little.


It is impossible to prove to me, that Soto has ever, uttered a deflamatory word or sentence at Mr. Perry. He respects SP as much as anybody in the industry. Gimme a break. Let this go already.

[ohsosoto]

Hmm, I guess Perry shopped for his jeans the same place I get mine, looks like we both don't dress right for Journey

well, ya know, he doens't have job. he needs to take up a donation.

[cyndy!]

It is impossible to prove to me, that Soto has ever, uttered a deflamatory word or sentence at Mr. Perry. He respects SP as much as anybody in the industry. Gimme a break. Let this go already.

i agree. i have not seen any disrespect towards perry.

[Deb]

I can draw two conclusions from the posted pic of Perry.

1. He's dating a 6'1" chick and is getting a lot of action = COOL pants
2. He's dating a 6'1" dude and smoking a lot of pole = FAG pants = NOT cool

You forgot the RIGHT answer.

3. It was 19fuckin94, grunge was in, and he's was trying to roll flannel to keep up with "the look." Very unPerrylike maneuver.

Yeah, he had quite the grunge hairstyle going there too, huh Red???

For the record (and take note...this is coming from a "loon"), I HATED that whole look for Steve Perry. I agree, Red, a very 'unPerrylike maneuver', indeed...

Hmm, and what are your thoughts on the ROR look?

[Aaron]

Red,

Good thought. I'd say they SUCK then!

L8r

I can draw two conclusions from the posted pic of Perry.

1. He's dating a 6'1" chick and is getting a lot of action = COOL pants
2. He's dating a 6'1" dude and smoking a lot of pole = FAG pants = NOT cool

You forgot the RIGHT answer.

3. It was 19fuckin94, grunge was in, and he's was trying to roll flannel to keep up with "the look." Very unPerrylike maneuver.

[donnaplease]

Yeah, he had quite the grunge hairstyle going there too, huh Red???

For the record (and take note...this is coming from a "loon"), I HATED that whole look for Steve Perry. I agree, Red, a very 'unPerrylike maneuver', indeed...

Hmm, and what are your thoughts on the ROR look?

Humina humina humina...

I LOVED IT!!!!!

[Rockindeano]

It is impossible to prove to me, that Soto has ever, uttered a deflamatory word or sentence at Mr. Perry. He respects SP as much as anybody in the industry. Gimme a break. Let this go already.

i agree. i have not seen any disrespect towards perry.

I love it when you agree with me. You are now number one in my power rankings as woman poster.

[cyndy!]

I love it when you agree with me. You are now number one in my power rankings as woman poster.

so you're saying i haven't ALWAYS been #1?!?

[Rockindeano]

I love it when you agree with me. You are now number one in my power rankings as woman poster.

so you're saying i haven't ALWAYS been #1?!?

No, I mean yes. I mean, just accept your status as number one woman poster.

[PROPERRY]

You do realize that Jeff is the ONLY member of the band that comes in here and chats with us "regular"folks right?

Keep on throwing shit bombs at the guy and we won't even have that to look forward to. I don't blame him for being defensive. He lurks and sees what's written. At least the guy is willing to come in and speak his mind. None of the other band members you mentioned would do that.

I don't agree with flaming just to flame.. but HOTS and Jeff have history - where she wasn't the most welcoming fan.

Wrong! I disagreed with something he posted and he called me a dickhead and he has called others names that might have disagreed with him. He's even complained about posters "creaming over Deen." What the hell?

This is wrong on so many levels HOTS. Your track record with Jeff is widely known. I read the post where you were called a dickhead, and it was a fair response. You like to call them as you see them, well he did the same in that instance. There's only so much criticism a person can take until they blow a gasket. And you and a few others in my opinion try to do just that. I don't know why you want to run Jeff off, but for crying out loud, you are going to ruin it for the rest of us. The vast majority of the membership here appreciates his posting. But there are always a few that ruin it for everyone else. You don't want to be that do you? Or do you? Please chill out and leave Jeff alone. Please.

I can't beilieve this! So You feel Jeff is being "picked on", and will leave the board because of some thing someone has said to him that he didn't like, a long while back. YOU make Jeff sound weak!

We've ALL had things said to us that we didn't like , but we are all STILL HERE on the board.

PLEASE!

HOTS has done nothing but stir shit up since she joined. There is barely a week that goes by where she sticks her beak in to disrupt a concersation with a thinly veild barb.

And I (as have others) have had enough.

Andrew,

I don't see it that Hots was stirring things up. In JSS last post he said he was joking , well if you go back and read Hots' first repsonse in this thread to him , Hots response appeared to me to be teasing him, she used the "smiley razzing face" after her comment. I just think Jeff over reacted.

[Crazie Scarab]

It is impossible to prove to me, that Soto has ever, uttered a deflamatory word or sentence at Mr. Perry. He respects SP as much as anybody in the industry. Gimme a break. Let this go already.

i agree. i have not seen any disrespect towards perry.

Very true & I agree, too.

[Andrew]

I don't see it that Hots was stirring things up. In JSS last post he said he was joking , well if you go back and read Hots' first repsonse in this thread to him , Hots response appeared to me to be teasing him, she used the "smiley razzing face" after her comment. I just think Jeff over reacted.

Hi Lori,
I have absolutely no issue with you, but with respect...I know the game Hots is playing as it is the same game that has been played for a long time now.

When another message board was operating, she did not visit this board at all. Now there is no other place to go, the same attitude returns.
I'm not commenting on this topic alone, it is a long running pattern of behaviour and I've given out my last warning in regards to it.

[treetopovskaya]

i too don't see where jss was baited.

[Blueskies]

Seems like HOTS likes the spotlight and getting a reaction from JSS. Now you are all keeping her/him onstage and asking for an encore.

[Rick]

i too don't see where jss was baited.

Were you not at TJF?

[Crazie Scarab]

Seems like HOTS likes the spotlight and getting a reaction from JSS. Now you are all keeping her/him onstage and asking for an encore.

Yeah.. and you just contributed to that in a big way. Ya think?

[treetopovskaya]

whatever. why bring it here? i didn't see hots baiting jss in THIS thread... and even if she was still no excuse for the name calling.

if jss is just like one of us it should be okay for me to call him out... and if he is just a regular guy why do so many feel the need to kiss his ass. he did come off sounding a bit jerkish today. not everyone is in on the history between jss & hots... they just see jeff calling a girl a prick/c***. i didn't think it was nice & i still don't & that's not bait. that is how i honestly feel. sorry jss i'm not an ass kisser. }:C(

...and if steve perry himself came in here or anywhere throwing "c" bombs i'd say he was acting a jerk too.

[Crazie Scarab]

whatever. why bring it here? i didn't see hots baiting jss in THIS thread... and even if she was still no excuse for the name calling.

if jss is just like one of us it should be okay for me to call him out... and if he is just a regular guy why do so many feel the need to kiss his ass. he did come off sounding a bit jerkish today. not everyone is in on the history between jss & hots... they just see jeff calling a girl a prick/c***. i didn't think it was nice & i still don't & that's not bait. that is how i honestly feel. sorry jss i'm not an ass kisser. }:C(

Four words: GET OVER IT ALREADY!

[Clasicrockldy]

whatever. why bring it here? i didn't see hots baiting jss in THIS thread... and even if she was still no excuse for the name calling.

if jss is just like one of us it should be okay for me to call him out... and if he is just a regular guy why do so many feel the need to kiss his ass. he did come off sounding a bit jerkish today. not everyone is in on the history between jss & hots... they just see jeff calling a girl a prick/c***. i didn't think it was nice & i still don't & that's not bait. that is how i honestly feel. sorry jss i'm not an ass kisser. }:C(

Four words: GET OVER IT ALREADY!

Amen, Crazie!

[whocares]

Sure there's plenty of people here kissing Jeff's ass, but there's more people who are genuinely happy just to have someone "like him" among us, "average" people. It shows that he IS one of us, a FAN. It's the non fans of Jeff's that make this place a miserable place once in a while. Ya wanna bag on someone, bag on someone in person, and see if you don't come out of it, with a bloddy nose. It's easy to fuck with people here on the net. Sadly, too easy at times.

I remember Perry wearing (probably) that exact outfit when I saw him live in NINETEEN NINETY FOUR!!!!! Yes, during the very sad Grunge years. Hell, I wore jeans with holes in them too, probably (still) in 1994 even, and I'll even admit to wearing parachute pants in the 80's. What's wrong with people making fun of THEMSELVES? Jeff wasn't making fun of Perry, but then, only people smart enough to know this, would understand it.

[treetopovskaya]

Sure there's plenty of people here kissing Jeff's ass, but there's more people who are genuinely happy just to have someone "like him" among us, "average" people. It shows that he IS one of us, a FAN. It's the non fans of Jeff's that make this place a miserable place once in a while. Ya wanna bag on someone, bag on someone in person, and see if you don't come out of it, with a bloddy nose. It's easy to fuck with people here on the net. Sadly, too easy at times.

I remember Perry wearing (probably) that exact outfit when I saw him live in NINETEEN NINETY FOUR!!!!! Yes, during the very sad Grunge years. Hell, I wore jeans with holes in them too, probably (still) in 1994 even, and I'll even admit to wearing parachute pants in the 80's. What's wrong with people making fun of THEMSELVES? Jeff wasn't making fun of Perry, but then, only people smart enough to know this, would understand it.

but turning on those people isn't going to help change their minds... and it just doesn't end here. people from other boards read this stuff & share it all over the place. be the better person & just ignore them... though today i didn't see any baiting. whatever. i am over it. }:C))

i'm sorry i said anything to begin with...

btw... who said jss was making fun of perry. wtf?

[Andrew]

whatever. why bring it here?

Er.....EXACTLY!

[Andrew]

Ok, enough....time to move on...

[conversationpc]

When another message board was operating, she did not visit this board at all. Now there is no other place to go, the same attitude returns.
I'm not commenting on this topic alone, it is a long running pattern of behaviour and I've given out my last warning in regards to it.

I don't agree with HOTS on her interactions with/towards Jeff and I have voiced my opinion directly to her about it but, with all due respect, there are some here who do much worse on a much more consistent basis that are STILL here and have barely gotten even a slap on the wrist for it.