conversationpc wrote:
Well, the Pats went to the Super Bowl in '84. So they got plowed by the Bears? Big deal. It wasn't like the entire decade was a waste.
I actually kinda liked those teams with Steve Grogan and, of course, the year they went to the big game, Tony Eason was the starting QB and he had a pretty good year. Irving Fryar was on that team, too. One of my all-time favorite receivers.
You should brush up on your Patriots history. The Patriots played in the 1986 Super Bowl (from the 1985 season). They went 2-14 in 1981 and 1-15 in 1982! That's putrid by anyone's measure! As for Grogan...Grogan was a very tough player and very underrated. As for Eason...He SUCKED! John Hannah said it best when he said Eason should be wearing a skirt! As for Irving Fryar...He had a VERY disappointing career. I believe he is one of only two receivers, EVER, taken as the number one overall pick. By that measure, he had a VERY average career. Also, Irving Fryar was more of a knucklehead when he played for the Patriots. I remember that he actually left Schaeffer Stadium (what it was called before Foxboro Stadium) before a Patriots game was even over, (he bailed at halftime, because of a disagreement with the coach...yes, this shit really happened back then), back in the early 80's, and actually got into a car accident on the way home. Then later that night, he was arrested for a knife fight with his wife! Ahhhhh....Those were the days! That's why the fact that people actually think we need to apologize because we have a good team now is beyond laughable to me!!!!!!
I can tell you this...As a Patriots fan, I'd much rather hear stories about Belichick stealing coaches signs than some moron player stabbing his wife, and winning 1 game a season! I was far more embarrassed by that than I ever was about the gamemanship that has been going on in football, since they wore leather helmets!!!!! Because I grew up playing football, I know for a fact that every coach I've ever played for has attempted to pick up the other teams defensive signals, even though they didn't have the videotape technology back then. This thing has gotten so blown out of proportion that common sense has gone completely out the window. Now I have to listen to that moron, Don Schula saying the Patriots have an asterisk if they go undefeated. HUH????? Even if I believe the videotaping allegation (and for the record, I do), it happened in one half of the very first game of the season against a DREADFUL Jets team! How the hell does that taint the entire season???? The answer is...It doesn't. Everyone just hates the Patriots because Belichick is arrogant, and thinks he's smarter than everyone else (and has made a pretty compelling case, that he actually is)!
Oh well...This happens with ALL teams who are successful. The first season the Patriots won the Super Bowl, the entire country (except St. Louis) was rooting for them, because they were the "new" team, fairly limited in the talent department, and 14 point underdogs! Now, three Lombardi trophies later, with the most powerful offense ever assembled, it's only natural that if you're not from Boston, you're going to hate this team! As I said, all successful teams deal with it. The Yankees have a ton of haters across the country, and so do the Cowboys, and the Celtics did, when they were winning their titles. I suspect most Patriots fans are actually amused that everyone hates the Patriots now. I listen to the sports talk shows all day long, and laugh my ass off at how much this team is despised. As a fan, we Patriots fans know this...There has NEVER EVER been a team in ANY sport who thrive more on everyone hating them and disrespecting them, than the Patriots do! They live for this shit! I truly believe that if the whole "Spygate" thing hadn't happened, this team probably wouldn't be undefeated, at this point. This team plays FAR better with a chip on their shoulder. As soon as I heard LT run his mouth the week they played the Chargers (I believe his exact quote was that the Patriots live by the motto that if they're not cheating, they're not trying), I knew the Pats would steamroll the Chargers. Then when I heard that buffoon Philips run his mouth the Dallas week, I knew the Cowboys were toast. Now all we have to do is get ready for the next Jets game, and see what happens to Mangini, after the whole "Spygate" episode. You guys haven't seen "running up the score", until you watch that game! As that moron T.O. said..."Get your popcorn ready"!!!!!
John from Boston
You're right. You're not awful losers, your terrible winners. Has anybody seen my camcorder?
