Arnel Pineda

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Postby ScarabGator » Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:37 am

Journey could play in my backyard and I could get 20,000 in there easy!!!!
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Re: Arnel Pineda

Postby slucero » Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:38 pm

ScarabGator wrote:
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Tango wrote:Arnel's voice sounded like they went to 11 on the reverb dial -- I mean, I almost had to dry my speakers after playing that stuff! Seriously, his voice doesn't even sound real -- it's like a perfect match to Studio Steve Perry (as opposed to Live Steve Perry). Scary good.

I've got a good friend from the Philippines -- he says that Journey and Richard Marx are absolutely huge there, and almost every family has a karaoke machine. Singing is there what eating is in the U.S.

Is there more hidden singing talent from the Philippines that A&R reps are just oblivious to?

Tango


I dont know about more Phillipino talent but Arnel certainly is a one of a kind find. There will never be another Steve Perry but give Arnel his due, he will create his own legacy.


Geez... Scarab, seriously, there will be no "legacy" for Arnel even if he was better than Perry (which he's not). Melodic rock is over dude. The main stream doesn't care about it anymore. Journey is in their golden years of retirement. Only the diehard fans will purchase their new music. They won't make a dent in radio play and unless the Walmart deal is a direct sales deal (that is, where Walmart purchases the quantity in bulk from their own pocket and has to eat what it doesn't sell) I doubt Journey's new disk will outsell Arrival.

Journey's place in history began and ended with Steve Perry. He was not only the voice, but a very large part of the song writing and melody creation. The collaboration between Neal, Cain and/or Rollie with Perry is what yielded the songs which are now a part of rock and roll history, but it's over because that style of music is over. This happens every generation. Popular music cycles every 10 years on average. Sinatra had his time. Elvis had his time. The Beatles had their time. Melodic rock in general had its time, but now it's over.

Arnel will tour the hits and will continue to make new music with Journey (hopefully), but make no mistake, people that go to the concerts want to hear the Perry era material and could give two shits about the new stuff. On every tour, when the new stuff is played, people get up to go to the bathroom or talk to their friends. Neal and Jon know this all too well.

I wish Arnel well, but the only Journey that matters to the masses is the one with Perry on the mic regardless of what shape his voice is in. That's where the casual fan's memories lie and that's what every singer after Perry is competing against. The fan's memories and emotional attachment of Journey at its peak.


You know, I agree with you to an extent but didnt The New Cars, without Ric Ocasek and Ben Orr-the nucleus of the band just sell an amazing number of CD's and a very successful tour across the country? I think the public will still have interest.


Ummm... WRONG....

With Arnel they have instant credibility in Asia.... and they already have it in South America.... most overseas fans aren't as zealous as US fans about the post Perry years... and the replacement singers.... I'd be willing to bet we see very little of the band stateside... they can avoid any backlash by touring outside the US, make massive money in Asia & South America, and wait till there is a real demand for them in the US before they return....

Further... with Arnel in the band they can play the "international" band card... which will only help them overseas....

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Postby treetopovskaya » Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:59 pm

andrew said eh... hehehee. }:C)
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