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Postby Barb » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:55 am

Lifehouse will be featured on PBS' Soundstage next week in HD. I do not get the PBS channel that it's on and DirecTV will not give me that channel because I have local PBS channels. Well, my local PBS channels are not showing this and I'm about to lose it.

If anyone has this channel in HD and can record this to a DVD, I'll pay you $50 plus shipping and handling.

Thanks!
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Postby Arkansas » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:15 am

I'll try. I know I can record it in HD thru my DVR, but I don't know how to get it to DVD and keep it HD.
I'll investigate. No promises...


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Postby STORY_TELLER » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:24 am

Can't be done. A show in HD can't be recorded to a DVD. Not enough space. This is a job for HD-DVD or Blu-Ray.

You might be able to record segments across multiple DVD's, but depending on the length of the show (including commercials) and how compressed the HD is (i.e. is it 720p, 1080i or 1080p?) you could be looking at one show spread across several DVD's. This is also assuming you have a TV which can display HD and a HD-DVD or Blu-Ray player to play it on (SD DVD player will likely choke on the HD imagery). If not, you'll be watching it on your computer and even then, you'll probably have to convert the files into something the computer can handle or downconvert and compress the imagery into SD.

Sorry :cry:
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Postby Barb » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:42 am

STORY_TELLER wrote:Can't be done. A show in HD can't be recorded to a DVD. Not enough space. This is a job for HD-DVD or Blu-Ray.

You might be able to record segments across multiple DVD's, but depending on the length of the show (including commercials) and how compressed the HD is (i.e. is it 720p, 1080i or 1080p?) you could be looking at one show spread across several DVD's. This is also assuming you have a TV which can display HD and a HD-DVD or Blu-Ray player to play it on (SD DVD player will likely choke on the HD imagery). If not, you'll be watching it on your computer and even then, you'll probably have to convert the files into something the computer can handle or downconvert and compress the imagery into SD.

Sorry :cry:


Crap. That makes total sense. DAMMIT!!!! :x
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Postby nolippin » Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:15 am

Check with the PBS station that is broadcasting it to see if copies of the show will be made available. Often, things like this will be offered during one of the stations fundraisers. Since PBS stations operate on donations, they would be happy to get your $50 donation. :D Good Luck.





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STORY_TELLER wrote:Can't be done. A show in HD can't be recorded to a DVD. Not enough space. This is a job for HD-DVD or Blu-Ray.

You might be able to record segments across multiple DVD's, but depending on the length of the show (including commercials) and how compressed the HD is (i.e. is it 720p, 1080i or 1080p?) you could be looking at one show spread across several DVD's. This is also assuming you have a TV which can display HD and a HD-DVD or Blu-Ray player to play it on (SD DVD player will likely choke on the HD imagery). If not, you'll be watching it on your computer and even then, you'll probably have to convert the files into something the computer can handle or downconvert and compress the imagery into SD.

Sorry :cry:


Crap. That makes total sense. DAMMIT!!!! :x
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Postby conversationpc » Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:29 am

Lifehouse sucks anyway.




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Postby Barb » Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:46 am

conversationpc wrote:Lifehouse sucks anyway.




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Postby cudaclan » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:46 pm

The Personal Video Recorder (PVR) needs to have the ability to record in HD mode. Then you can "burn" with a Blue Ray/ HD DVD recorder. Reality, most have the ability to record in digital format (at present). A TV tuner card recorded to a PC with xtra hard drive space for storage will do.
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Postby Rick » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:48 pm

cudaclan wrote:The Personal Video Recorder (PVR) needs to have the ability to record in HD mode. Then you can "burn" with a Blue Ray/ HD DVD recorder. Reality, most have the ability to record in digital format (at present). A TV tuner card recorded to a PC with xtra hard drive space for storage will do.


I don't think very many people have a HD or Blue Ray burner. Those are prohibitively expensive.
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:52 pm

:? what happened to the days of just putting in a blank VHS? set the timer... was easy..
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Postby Rick » Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:58 pm

larryfromnextdoor wrote::? what happened to the days of just putting in a blank VHS? set the timer... was easy..


Larry, maybe for you, but for most people, figuring out how to record anything to a VHS off of TV was a major task. I usually got nothing but ant races in my recordings. :lol:
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:14 pm

Rick wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote::? what happened to the days of just putting in a blank VHS? set the timer... was easy..


Larry, maybe for you, but for most people, figuring out how to record anything to a VHS off of TV was a major task. I usually got nothing but ant races in my recordings. :lol:


man.. at one time.. i thought i was a trend setter.. in 1991 or so bought an RCA home theater,, "it consisted of a tv and 2 little speakers.. remember the commercial with the dalmations watching tv".. thats still my main tv..ok,, i get it home BIG TIME excited about the Picture in Picture,,, i NEVER figured it out.. never.. i had an AB switch and 2 splitters.. i still , to this day,, dont understand how that was suppose to work,, and im smart.. like a tractor..
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Postby Rick » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:16 pm

larryfromnextdoor wrote:
Rick wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote::? what happened to the days of just putting in a blank VHS? set the timer... was easy..


Larry, maybe for you, but for most people, figuring out how to record anything to a VHS off of TV was a major task. I usually got nothing but ant races in my recordings. :lol:


man.. at one time.. i thought i was a trend setter.. in 1991 or so bought an RCA home theater,, "it consisted of a tv and 2 little speakers.. remember the commercial with the dalmations watching tv".. thats still my main tv..ok,, i get it home BIG TIME excited about the Picture in Picture,,, i NEVER figured it out.. never.. i had an AB switch and 2 splitters.. i still , to this day,, dont understand how that was suppose to work,, and im smart.. like a tractor..


:lol: They make that stuff forgetting that it is to be operated by ordinary people like you and me and forget that they obviously would know how to operate it because they freakin designed it.
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Postby Moon Beam » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:20 pm

larryfromnextdoor wrote: and im smart.. like a tractor..



I'm choking with laughter Lar!
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Postby Perrydise » Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:15 pm

http://www.shoppbs.org/search/index.jsp ... stage&sr=1

PBS Soundstage store- though not much listed on there. You may want to contact them.
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Postby tammy » Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:34 pm

Moon Beam wrote:
larryfromnextdoor wrote: and im smart.. like a tractor..



I'm choking with laughter Lar!


That made me laugh, too...Lar, ya always have such funny remarks. :D
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Postby texafana » Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:57 pm

"Can't be done. A show in HD can't be recorded to a DVD. Not enough space. This is a job for HD-DVD or Blu-Ray."

You could probably just record it in SVideo mode right?
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Postby Arkansas » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:34 am

STORY_TELLER wrote:Can't be done. A show in HD can't be recorded to a DVD. Not enough space. This is a job for HD-DVD or Blu-Ray.

You might be able to record segments across multiple DVD's, but depending on the length of the show (including commercials) and how compressed the HD is (i.e. is it 720p, 1080i or 1080p?) you could be looking at one show spread across several DVD's. This is also assuming you have a TV which can display HD and a HD-DVD or Blu-Ray player to play it on (SD DVD player will likely choke on the HD imagery). If not, you'll be watching it on your computer and even then, you'll probably have to convert the files into something the computer can handle or downconvert and compress the imagery into SD.

Sorry :cry:


The PBS show is probably 720p (1080i at best but not likely). And I've got all the equipment, just xfer'ing between the hardwares and maintaining the format without losing compression is tough to do...outside of a professional studio. I have successfully xfer'd shows to a computer and done selective editing to remove ads & breaks, but it does take sophisticated software to manage it all, and perhaps more importantly, the right sound & video cards to handle the a/v...not to mention hours of work. What I've been able to do so far, while better than typical analog tv, is still a little grainy in certain angles and you do occasionally get an odd pixelation and/or annoying artifacting.

So yeah, it can be done - at home - but it's neither easy, nor near the quality you'd want.
Btw, an hour of SD takes 10+ gigs of space, and 720p HD can take over 30g...1080i/p will take even more.

Thinking of getting a new camcorder and seeing what its hard drive will handle. I should be able to take an out straight from my dvr, using the camera as a secondary monitor, and just hit record. I imagine though it will be significanly down-converted...or just refuse to do it. ???

Back to the original question - your best bet is to buy it from a professional (& legal) source.


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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:39 am

i got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you can set up a video camera in front of the tv!!! would that be worth any bucks? if so ,,im on it.. :wink: ...no for real..
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Postby Barb » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:39 am

Arkansas wrote:Back to the original question - your best bet is to buy it from a professional (& legal) source.


later~


I really hope that becomes an option, but not all soundstage performances are put out on DVD. Thanks for the info!
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Postby piecesofeight » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:40 am

conversationpc wrote:Lifehouse sucks anyway.




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I was wondering how long it would take before this turned into a 'comment' thread instead of a 'help' thread.. :lol:
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Postby STORY_TELLER » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:58 am

Arkansas wrote:So yeah, it can be done - at home - but it's neither easy, nor near the quality you'd want.


Sorry, I should have been more specific when I said it can't be done. I should have said, it can't be done by your average person with consumer grade equipment. Nor can it be done without a lot of time consuming work with expensive prosumer quality equipment. Shame on me for cutting to the chase. :lol:
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