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Postby Saint John » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:54 am

Rick wrote:
Saint John wrote:I know one gentleman that has spot on information. Always has. You all know him too. 8)


The marsupial? He doesn't know shit from Shinola. How long has it been since you've heard that one? :lol:

You're right, his info is, as you said, spot on.


While you are 100% correct, Rick, that isn't the person I was referring to. My referring to him as a "gentleman" may have thrown you off, though. :lol: :twisted: :P :wink:
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Postby nutz4Neal » Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:57 am

MartyMoffatt wrote:IMO there are probably quite a few people here do who have ‘inside’ knowledge of fragments of the truth, through contacts, friendships or personal situations. They generally keep quiet about the fact, for a couple of reasons. Firstly, the information may be private and intended to be kept that way, and secondly it usually results in severe interrogation by other members here, or blatant denial, or argument. The facts then get lost in wave after wave of re-interpretation and further speculation. I can’t believe anybody who really cares about the band members etc (as people instead of idols) would want to be responsible for the free for all that ensues.

Of the people who do claim to have inside information, some are clearly making it up and speculating wildly, hoping that somebody else will rebut their claim and inadvertently let slip the real truth. Some may have a little knowledge but try to be careful in what they reveal for the reasons explained above. And some simply cannot contain themselves.

I agree it is difficult to know who does know things and who doesn’t, especially with contradictory ‘inside’ facts.

I don’t think anybody has complete ‘inside’ knowledge. Even if they directly know a band member well, it is unlikely they will be privy to all the goings on, and their knowledge is likely to be biased towards the person they know. Therefore any comments they make here should be read in that context.

Marty



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Postby Rick » Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:10 pm

Saint John wrote:
Rick wrote:
Saint John wrote:I know one gentleman that has spot on information. Always has. You all know him too. 8)


The marsupial? He doesn't know shit from Shinola. How long has it been since you've heard that one? :lol:

You're right, his info is, as you said, spot on.


While you are 100% correct, Rick, that isn't the person I was referring to. My referring to him as a "gentleman" may have thrown you off, though. :lol: :twisted: :P :wink:


Rockindeano then. He and Andrew are always on the money.
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Postby Saint John » Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:46 pm

Rick wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Rick wrote:
Saint John wrote:I know one gentleman that has spot on information. Always has. You all know him too. 8)


The marsupial? He doesn't know shit from Shinola. How long has it been since you've heard that one? :lol:

You're right, his info is, as you said, spot on.


While you are 100% correct, Rick, that isn't the person I was referring to. My referring to him as a "gentleman" may have thrown you off, though. :lol: :twisted: :P :wink:


Rockindeano then. He and Andrew are always on the money.


Bingo. 8)
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Postby lparn » Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:56 pm

Being the owner of this site and moderator, Andrew does post and share info with the readers, posters. etc and its in an official capacity that the information is shared, which again is my point.
I dont know if it is the nature of this band and the fans etc, however things seem to take on a more intense
nature when it comes to information and opinions.
I agree with the post and the statement that Marty made.
The internet and things posted should be taken with a grain of salt regardless of the site, forum or how related to the band/members past or present when it is not in an official capacity or site like this or an official site.
People tend to claim to know things and people and it is easy to get sucked in and then find out the hard way that the claims are not only not true or valid, the people claiming them are using the situation to their own benefit, advantage and to look more special and like better fans that is the only reason that I can think of as to why people would claim to know someone or something. The internet is fullof sites and forums about and for the band members past and present. It is not hard to create a site or forum however, there should be some sort of responsibility and standard on some of these unofficial sites/forums, otherwise allowing people to run amuk on some of these non official sites or forums, claiming to know this or that or this person or that band member, leads to speculating,
and can create a sense of animosity when it is being done with the idea of looking more important and special and to take advantage of others, and to use what/who they do know or in most case are claiming to know to exclude the people they feel are not deserving enough or "true fans" like them. It goes from being fun and enjoying the music to something negative, which does not do the posters or the said band/member past or present any good. Unless I am mistaken, the purpose and goal of these unofficial sites and forums is to have a place for people to go to spread the word, support, and honor the band/member past or present. How is a person going to do that if they do not feel safe and comfortable posting/logging onto/visiting one of these unofficial sites/forums with all this going on. If people truley care about the band/members past and present as people rather than idols they should and would want them to have tons of fans not turn people off/away. I don't understand the logic. I think people need to realize that the band/members past and present and any artist for that matter are doing a job. Part of that job is public relations. While I can only vouch for the sincerity of the band members past and present I have met, meeting a band member past or present 1, 10 or 20 times does not make anyone more special or important then any other person. It certainly does not give anyone free rein to form a site or forum for a band/member past or present with the intention of bringing the fans together to support. and spread the word about a band member past or present, when they are really using the situation to look more important and special and when said band member past and present is not around they are taking advantage of, being mean and excluding people who are only looking to meet new people and support said band member past and present. I am more than willing to bet that in the course of a courteous, polite. " hi, thanks for coming to the show and for supporting me/us and the music" people are not being told private, personal, career or professional information, and thinking, claiming or assuming that they are is just absurd. Nor are people that have never met or talked to any of the band/members past or present being told these things personally or because they know someone that does. Claiming to know or have that kind of information for that reason and or to look more special and important just leads to animosity and hard feelings and does not make people feel comfortable and safe going to or posting on some of these unofficial sites. How does that help to support and spread the word about the music ?
I don;t think any of the band members past or present are sharing info private or professional with anyone not in an official capacity, and anyone that is saying that is the case is bs. I don;t care if someone has met a said band member past or present 1, 10 or 20 times, they are not being told that kind of information, and if they are, like Marty stated in his post it is privied and not meant to be public. Until things changes with regard to the unofficial sites/forums etc and people realize it is not a competition and we all have the some goal, to support the band/members past and present, I do not believe anything unless I see it on an official site or in that capacity.
When we are suppose to know we will be told on an official and by someone in that capacity, like here on the front page.
You believe everything you read and hear on the internet, or trust the people claiming to know imformation/someone they probably do not, that is how you wind up getting burnt.
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