"Songs were noticeably slowed down"? No

[Andrew]

There wouldn't be any shit, abuse, and mudslinging if certain proven headhunters had their accounts axed before they ignite more shitstorms.

Its coming.

But even when I do that I get grief e-mailed privately. I cannot win. But at least the board would be peaceful.

[ProgRocker53]

Let me say this. MR is being watched by more boards and people than you think. I moderate a board, and there is a thread there about the shit, abuse, etc, that is said here.

Andrew, this isn't the kind of publicity you want for this board. People are not wanting to come here and post because of what is happening here. Just thought I would give you something to think about.

There wouldn't be any shit, abuse, and mudslinging if certain proven headhunters had their accounts axed before they ignite more shitstorms.

The board's been relatively peaceful and friendly for awhile now, and there's a reason.

First 2 accounts that should be axed. IMHO

Rockin' Deano

ProgRocker53

[Clasicrockldy]

Let me say this. MR is being watched by more boards and people than you think. I moderate a board, and there is a thread there about the shit, abuse, etc, that is said here.

Andrew, this isn't the kind of publicity you want for this board. People are not wanting to come here and post because of what is happening here. Just thought I would give you something to think about.

There wouldn't be any shit, abuse, and mudslinging if certain proven headhunters had their accounts axed before they ignite more shitstorms.

The board's been relatively peaceful and friendly for awhile now, and there's a reason.

There are lots of offenders here. All of those should go. Is this what Andrew wants his board to be? It doesn't look good for him if people are not coming here to post if there is abuse. And let me tell you this, boy, abuse happens when it isn't asked for. People have differing opinions. No one here I see respects that. What I see is if you aren't in with Arnel, you get shit. End of story. This board isn't peaceful, it is just in limbo for the next offender(s) who resides here to blow their top off. And it doesn't take much.

You might want to rethink that headhunters shit. Most of them are here, and they sling the shit right off the bat!

[stevew2]

As someone who's on the fence, I can honestly see bias in Dan's review. JSS was mentioned all too often and feathered throughout. It really felt like sour grapes. That being said, the subsequent review felt like it came from a cheerleader and just as biased in the opposite direction. As soon as that reviewer mentioned he was once friends with and reconnected with Deen Castronovo (at the show), it kind of became clear there's no way this guy was going to have (let alone write) a purely objective opinion. I mean, seriously, everything posted on the web gets back to Journey management, especially on the front page of MR.com. Hard to believe after a guy reconnects with a band member, exchanging phone numbers, that he was going to say one negative thing about the concert.

Seems to me the Journey camps are as polarized as today's politics in this country. Nay-sayers on one side and cheerleaders on the other. Very few middle of the roaders (which is the camp I currently reside in).

I think most from both camps lack objectivity.

This I think is the most objective post of the day.

I wish that I could have seen it for myself. I hate leaving reviews to outsiders (even ones I know well...).

11 things not discussed in detail on MR.

1 * plows through lead vocalists like Pamela Anderson goes through husbands.

2 * hired and then unceremoniously fired singer Jeff Scott Soto, alienating a number of long-time fans in the process.

3 * their third lead vocalist in as many years did not hold a candle to the Soto-led group that consistently blew Def Leppard off the stage

4 * During the brief Soto era, Neal Schon, Jonathan Cain, Ross
Valory and Deen Castronovo were tighter as a unit

5 * Unfortunately, all of that was missing in Las Vegas.

6 * the new Journey led by Pineda was not tight, the songs were noticeably slowed down

7 * was an uninspired and lackluster set that had many in crowd sitting for much of the show.

8 * Pineda, the 40-year-old Filipino who covered Journey songs in his previous band The Zoo, did a decent job imitating Steve Perry.

9 * he has an awkward stage presence, rarely interacted with his band members, and came in early on a few songs
and sang over Schon's guitar parts (see “Escape” and “Faithfully”).

10 * as the crowd started to exit their seats and make their way up through the aisles. Journey returned and Pineda announced, “We have to do one of the new ones again because we fucked it
up.” Schon and company then played “Wildest Dreams” for the second time.

11* the band needed to fix another tune, so Cain asked the
crowd: “Would you like to hear “Faithfully” again?”

Thats pretty much what went on,the clips proved it. Should have had a few band practices,part time bands at least do it.

[7 Wishes]

First 2 accounts that should be axed. IMHO

Rockin' Deano

ProgRocker53

OK, dick-in-the-ass. You're crossing the line now. Put a sock in it.

[Andrew]

Let me say this. MR is being watched by more boards and people than you think. I moderate a board, and there is a thread there about the shit, abuse, etc, that is said here.

Andrew, this isn't the kind of publicity you want for this board. People are not wanting to come here and post because of what is happening here. Just thought I would give you something to think about.

There wouldn't be any shit, abuse, and mudslinging if certain proven headhunters had their accounts axed before they ignite more shitstorms.

The board's been relatively peaceful and friendly for awhile now, and there's a reason.

First 2 accounts that should be axed. IMHO

Rockin' Deano

ProgRocker53

And the 3rd will be yours. Give it a break please.

[Clasicrockldy]

Let me say this. MR is being watched by more boards and people than you think. I moderate a board, and there is a thread there about the shit, abuse, etc, that is said here.

Andrew, this isn't the kind of publicity you want for this board. People are not wanting to come here and post because of what is happening here. Just thought I would give you something to think about.

I could not agree more. I bang my head against my office wall on a daily basis.

Andrew, if you want to see the thread at that board, I can e-mail to you privately. I will not put it out here because it isn't for everyone's eyes, just your own.