OT: Whitesnake - "Good To Be Bad"

[Rip Rokken]

Do they mention from when the Live Tracks from the Bonus Disc are? I have a Live Double CD from 2006 (Live.. In the Shadow of the Blues) but I'm not sure if this CD was released in the USA and I don't want to buy double...

I'm not sure... I should read the liner notes. Here's the track listing for the bonus disc (apparently minus the enhanced video):

# 1 Burn Stormbringer - (live)
# 2 Give Me All Your Love Tonight - (live)
# 3 Walking In the Shadow... - (live)
# 4 Deeper the Love, The - (live)
# 5 Ready & Willing - (live)
# 6 Don't Break My Heart Again - (live)
# 7 Take Me With You - (live)
# 8 Ready To Rock - (live)

Also, found a place that's streaming the first 5 of the new songs -- here it is:

http://www.imeem.com/boyanpure/playlist ... _playlist/

Let me know what you think! That should give you plenty of taste of what the new songs sound like. Also, it doesn't sound muddy like the disc in my car, so I need to listen to it elsewhere to get a better opinion.

[IngoK]

Thanks for the Info. I'm only asking because the european limited version is different (Summer Rain as acoustic track for e.g.).

The Album itself is great.

[Rip Rokken]

The Wombat gave it a 95%!

[JH'sTXfan]

Do they mention from when the Live Tracks from the Bonus Disc are? I have a Live Double CD from 2006 (Live.. In the Shadow of the Blues) but I'm not sure if this CD was released in the USA and I don't want to buy double...

I'm not sure... I should read the liner notes. Here's the track listing for the bonus disc (apparently minus the enhanced video):

# 1 Burn Stormbringer - (live)
# 2 Give Me All Your Love Tonight - (live)
# 3 Walking In the Shadow... - (live)
# 4 Deeper the Love, The - (live)
# 5 Ready & Willing - (live)
# 6 Don't Break My Heart Again - (live)
# 7 Take Me With You - (live)
# 8 Ready To Rock - (live)

Also, found a place that's streaming the first 5 of the new songs -- here it is:

http://www.imeem.com/boyanpure/playlist ... _playlist/

Let me know what you think! That should give you plenty of taste of what the new songs sound like. Also, it doesn't sound muddy like the disc in my car, so I need to listen to it elsewhere to get a better opinion.

Thanks for the link Rip. I'm lovin' this!!!!!!!

(BTW, your AV looks enbalmed )

[weatherman90]

The Wombat gave it a 95%!

Go Wombat & Whitesnake!!

I really want to see these guys this year....and Def Leppard too...and Journey....and...

[Since 78]

The Wombat gave it a 95%!

Well Deserved, Freakin Rocks!!!!

[Fire99]

well the album has had its 4th or 5th play now and its really starting to grow on me. My initial response was a bit mixed but i think D.C has made a ballsy move by not just fading away in a half-hearted nostalgia trip but releasing a real hard rocking album with quite a mix of elements..

My only criticism is the album cover which i agree looks a bit bland. If you remember 'Restless Heart' the artwork on the cover was fantastic.. This is a bit cartoon-like.. but hey i didn't buy the album to look at

Stick it in your car and play it loud..... It rocks!!


Regarding Slip of the Tongue, i actually think some of the songwriting is top class and 'Sailing Ships' is one of Whitesnake's greatest songs.. However the production and guitar sound gives it a strange feel. The production feels a bit raw and lacking depth but with overcomplicated guitars widdling all over it.

It'll never happen but i'd love to hear that album re-recorded with the current line-up and see what they could add to the mix.

[Rip Rokken]

My only criticism is the album cover which i agree looks a bit bland. If you remember 'Restless Heart' the artwork on the cover was fantastic.. This is a bit cartoon-like.. but hey i didn't buy the album to look at

I totally agree on the cover. But "Restless Heart"... was there a cover that I missed? Mine featured a head/shoulders pic of David Coverdale on it.

Regarding Slip of the Tongue, i actually think some of the songwriting is top class and 'Sailing Ships' is one of Whitesnake's greatest songs.. However the production and guitar sound gives it a strange feel. The production feels a bit raw and lacking depth but with overcomplicated guitars widdling all over it.

It'll never happen but i'd love to hear that album re-recorded with the current line-up and see what they could add to the mix.

Another perfect description. Most of the songs were quite good, and among some of my favorites. I'd read an interview years and years ago where D.C. mentioned sending the studio tracks to Steve Vai, who recorded his guitars over them and sent them back -- this may have been in the earlier days of swapping DAT tapes back and forth for convenience. But I've never really cared for Vai's cartoonish sound, and he did layer them in pretty thick. Maybe they should swap cover art with Slip because the new one fits Vai more.

[Centaure]

The album is good, but almost every songs sound like a previous Whitesnake song (or other band's songs, Led Zeppelin, Thin Lizzy).

[yulog]

Bingo!!

[marco17]

Good CD, actually better than I was expecting. Was a bit surprised with the song choices for the extra live CD though. I guess Coverdale was trying to feature some other songs then the typical ones you'd expect to see on that.

[Fire99]

I totally agree on the cover. But "Restless Heart"... was there a cover that I missed? Mine featured a head/shoulders pic of David Coverdale on it.

Sorry i was thinking of the Japanese Import Edition which had a sword surrounded by Restless Heart and some barbed wire etc..

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4 ... SS500_.jpg

[Rip Rokken]

Sorry i was thinking of the Japanese Import Edition which had a sword surrounded by Restless Heart and some barbed wire etc..

[img]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41RYVB123CL._SS500_.jpg

Ahh... very nice! I'd forgotten seeing that before, but it's been years! Yes, that should have been the official cover overall, I think. But I wonder about the difference in marketing... this one just says "Whitesnake", whereas the other was billed as "David Coverdale & Whitesnake". It's been a long time since I had this disc, from from what I remember, it wasn't very rocking at all -- a much more stripped down sound.

[Rip Rokken]

The album is good but almost every songs sound like a previous Whitesnake song (or other band's songs, Led Zeppelin, Thin Lizzy).

I remember having this thought when I first heard the entire S/T album years and years ago. I made the comment to a drummer friend of mine who replied that Coverdale was a "master thief".

[SilvioRodrigues]

I'm going to see them live tonight. It's my first Whitesnake concert and I'm sure it will be great, and tomorrow, I'll see Queensryche for the second time. The first one was in 1991 during Rock in Rio II.

It will be a busy week!!

Friday I hope to write some lines about these concerts.

[LtVanish]

Love the new album, it is classic Whitesnake. It is very catchy no doubt. Does anyone know when they will be touring the states? I am wondering who they will be paired up with, since Def Leppard is already touring this summer. I was hoping Cinderella, but they have a tour put together now with Warrant.

[JrnyScarab]

almost every songs sound like a previous Whitesnake song (or other band's songs, Led Zeppelin, Thin Lizzy).

This is not a bad thing. Whitesnake is one of those bands that can make it work. AC-DC is another. Most ZZ Top songs also sound alike. The thing is, the driving beats and rhythm keep you rocking and the energy flowing which negates the sameness if that makes any sense.

[ProgRocker53]

almost every songs sound like a previous Whitesnake song (or other band's songs, Led Zeppelin, Thin Lizzy).

This is not a bad thing. Whitesnake is one of those bands that can make it work. AC-DC is another. Most ZZ Top songs also sound alike. The thing is, the driving beats and rhythm keep you rocking and the energy flowing which negates the sameness if that makes any sense.

Agreed. Alot of these songs may sound similar but they're not usually exact copies of one another. These particular artists seem to have established an instantly recognizable sound. I've been able to identify AC/DC songs I had never heard before as AC/DC, due to their trademark qualities: sparse riffs, sleazy vocals, bluesy tone.

[JrnyScarab]

almost every songs sound like a previous Whitesnake song (or other band's songs, Led Zeppelin, Thin Lizzy).

This is not a bad thing. Whitesnake is one of those bands that can make it work. AC-DC is another. Most ZZ Top songs also sound alike. The thing is, the driving beats and rhythm keep you rocking and the energy flowing which negates the sameness if that makes any sense.

Agreed. Alot of these songs may sound similar but they're not usually exact copies of one another. These particular artists seem to have established an instantly recognizable sound. I've been able to identify AC/DC songs I had never heard before as AC/DC, due to their trademark qualities: sparse riffs, sleazy vocals, bluesy tone.

Funny thing with Whitesnake is they achieve that sound no matter who seems to play guitar in that band. Steve Vai didn't really, but all the others seem to "Get" that sound that makes Whitesnake what it is.

[Rip Rokken]

I'm going to see them live tonight. It's my first Whitesnake concert and I'm sure it will be great, and tomorrow, I'll see Queensryche for the second time. The first one was in 1991 during Rock in Rio II.

It will be a busy week!!

Friday I hope to write some lines about these concerts.

Silvio -- looking forward to your reviews!

[Centaure]

almost every songs sound like a previous Whitesnake song (or other band's songs, Led Zeppelin, Thin Lizzy).

This is not a bad thing. Whitesnake is one of those bands that can make it work. AC-DC is another. Most ZZ Top songs also sound alike. The thing is, the driving beats and rhythm keep you rocking and the energy flowing which negates the sameness if that makes any sense.

Well, it is not a bad thing, but it is the first Whitesnake album that does that.

The most obvious ''hommage'' to previous Whitesnake songs:

Call on Me = In the Still of the Night
A Fool In Love = Crying In the Rain

The whole album has the feel of the 1987 self-titled album. The guitar distortion sound almost exactly the same.

[T-Bone]

This is one hell of a release... Doug Aldrich is a MONSTER

[Centaure]

Yes Doug Aldrich is great on it, that is for sure.

Reb Beach is quite a good guitarist too, I am surprise that he didn't co-wrote any of the new songs. After all, he has good composing skills and has been in the band as long as Aldrich.

[T-Bone]

Yes Doug Aldrich is great on it, that is for sure.

Reb Beach is quite a good guitarist too, I am surprise that he didn't co-wrote any of the new songs. After all, he has good composing skills and has been in the band as long as Aldrich.

He was a late-comer from what I unerstand. He was invited into the band knowing in advance that Aldrich had the reins... Reb is alot more skilled as far as theory and profeincy goes, but Aldrich is a balls out rocker, which I think is what Whitesnake and Coverdale was looking for. He does the Sykes sound to a tee, plus adds a little Zakk Wylde to it as well. Reb is more like a Steve Vai/Andy Timmons/Paul Gilbert type of guitarist

[Rip Rokken]

Yes Doug Aldrich is great on it, that is for sure.

Reb Beach is quite a good guitarist too, I am surprise that he didn't co-wrote any of the new songs. After all, he has good composing skills and has been in the band as long as Aldrich.

He was a late-comer from what I unerstand. He was invited into the band knowing in advance that Aldrich had the reins... Reb is alot more skilled as far as theory and profeincy goes, but Aldrich is a balls out rocker, which I think is what Whitesnake and Coverdale was looking for. He does the Sykes sound to a tee, plus adds a little Zakk Wylde to it as well. Reb is more like a Steve Vai/Andy Timmons/Paul Gilbert type of guitarist

Correct, and if you watch the last Whitesnake Live DVD, you can tell Reb Beach is really a supporting player -- much more than we are used to seeing him be. He's only given a few solos, and of those, only half of one... I think his soloing style just doesn't fit Whitesnake any more than Steve Vai's did. And if you catch D.C.'s comment about Reb who "feels it's his destiny to work with me" in the extras, it kinda supports all that. Combine that with Reb's comment on the same disc that "there aren't that many gigs out there for a player like me" and it fleshes out the picture.

Now, Reb is a hell of a player, no doubt -- but Rip thinks he needs to quit making cartoonish faces while he solos, because it strips the rock out of the performance.

[JrnyScarab]

The guitar distortion sound almost exactly the same.

Yeah it does! But man, do I LOVE that sound. Smoking!

[conversationpc]

He was a late-comer from what I unerstand. He was invited into the band knowing in advance that Aldrich had the reins... Reb is alot more skilled as far as theory and profeincy goes, but Aldrich is a balls out rocker, which I think is what Whitesnake and Coverdale was looking for. He does the Sykes sound to a tee, plus adds a little Zakk Wylde to it as well. Reb is more like a Steve Vai/Andy Timmons/Paul Gilbert type of guitarist

Correct, and if you watch the last Whitesnake Live DVD, you can tell Reb Beach is really a supporting player -- much more than we are used to seeing him be. He's only given a few solos, and of those, only half of one... I think his soloing style just doesn't fit Whitesnake any more than Steve Vai's did. And if you catch D.C.'s comment about Reb who "feels it's his destiny to work with me" in the extras, it kinda supports all that. Combine that with Reb's comment on the same disc that "there aren't that many gigs out there for a player like me" and it fleshes out the picture.

Now, Reb is a hell of a player, no doubt -- but Rip thinks he needs to quit making cartoonish faces while he solos, because it strips the rock out of the performance.

Beach doesn't quite have the unique sound that Vai had, so he fits in a lot better than Vai ever did. Vai's sound is just too weird to fit well in any band but his own.

[Rip Rokken]

Beach doesn't quite have the unique sound that Vai had, so he fits in a lot better than Vai ever did. Vai's sound is just too weird to fit well in any band but his own.

I guess I meant that they are both tap-heavy players... You are right, though -- their styles aren't that similar.

[Rip Rokken]

The most obvious ''hommage'' to previous Whitesnake songs:

Call on Me = In the Still of the Night
A Fool In Love = Crying In the Rain

The whole album has the feel of the 1987 self-titled album. The guitar distortion sound almost exactly the same.

Great call on the second comparison, but the first is a real stretch to me -- the whole groove and pace of "Call on Me" is totally different than "S.O.T.N."

[Centaure]

Well, the first riff is very similar to the one in Still Of The Night, isn't it ? Of course, I like SOTN better.

BTW, I like Reb's faces when he plays solos !