Drought of 87-96.

by **StoneCold** » Mon May 26, 2008 3:06 pm

When this hit radio, I thought it was new Journey. Got the cd. Pleasantly surprised to find Rolie, Smitty and RV about the business of putting out good music.

Enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mOr3P1lvtE&

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKj9Xr1mGkA&

Bonus:

Rolie and Chalfant live for "Just The Same Way".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwnD23Grl7U&

by **Journey/Survivor** » Mon May 26, 2008 4:06 pm

I slightly preferred Bad English. But I do love The Storm too. If we couldn't have actual Journey, then Bad English and The Storm were the next best thing.

But in the case of The Storm you had to miss Neal not being involved, as great as Josh Ramos is.

by **Ms_M** » Mon May 26, 2008 4:16 pm

I preferred BE to The Storm, too. Did see them when they opened for BA in '92. Great show - Rollie was all over the Journey stuff. At that point, it seemed like the closest thing I was going to get to a Journey show.

by **Vladan** » Mon May 26, 2008 8:15 pm

Bah! where is the option "its not Journey without Perry" Since when was Journey recognized for the guitarist? only a select few would say, only a select few...

by **mikemarrs** » Mon May 26, 2008 8:29 pm

i like the storm myself over bad english.

by **Red13JoePa** » Mon May 26, 2008 9:20 pm

Bad English CRUSHES The Storm.
Lay Down is the single best track of both albums combined. Tall Stories, too.

by **finalfight** » Mon May 26, 2008 9:52 pm

The Storm all the way for me. Both albums didn't really sound much like Journey though.

by **WykkedSensation** » Mon May 26, 2008 11:27 pm

The Storm any day over Bad English. BE had John Waite for a start off, who is so ridiculously overrated. Nah The Storm blow BE away for me with consumate ease.

by **NealIsGod** » Mon May 26, 2008 11:32 pm

The Storm is like vanilla ice cream. Pleasant and doesn't get you too excited. :lol:

Bad English kicked ass. Too bad Waite had lead singers disease.

by **ProgRocker53** » Tue May 27, 2008 12:10 am

Vladan wrote:Bah! where is the option "its not Journey without Perry" Since when was Journey recognized for the guitarist? only a select few would say, only a select few...

There is actually a large contigent of Journey fans that recognize that Neal Schon is, has been, and always will be Journey. However, they aren't as vocal as their "loonier" counterparts, as they have always felt like a part of the band.

I mean, after all... who is the only man to be onstage for every Journey concert for 35 years?

by **Saint John** » Tue May 27, 2008 12:35 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:
Vladan wrote:Bah! where is the option "its not Journey without Perry" Since when was Journey recognized for the guitarist? only a select few would say, only a select few...

There is actually a large contigent of Journey fans that recognize that Neal Schon is, has been, and always will be Journey. However, they aren't as vocal as their "loonier" counterparts, as they have always felt like a part of the band.

I mean, after all... who is the only man to be onstage for every Journey concert for 35 years?

Great points. If it weren't for Neal, this band would have been done in 86, 96 and 06.

by **ProgRocker53** » Tue May 27, 2008 12:39 am

Saint John wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:
Vladan wrote:Bah! where is the option "its not Journey without Perry" Since when was Journey recognized for the guitarist? only a select few would say, only a select few...

There is actually a large contigent of Journey fans that recognize that Neal Schon is, has been, and always will be Journey. However, they aren't as vocal as their "loonier" counterparts, as they have always felt like a part of the band.

I mean, after all... who is the only man to be onstage for every Journey concert for 35 years?

Great points. If it weren't for Neal, this band would have been done in 86, 96 and 06.

Indeed.

Also, while Journey have had long periods of inactivity.... Schon, never. He's always had some kind of solo album or side project to bridge the gap between Journey albums, and indeed, several of these albums (Hardline, Beyond the Thunder) I enjoy more than alot of Journey albums!

by **Allied Forces** » Tue May 27, 2008 3:49 am

I didn't care for Bad English. The Storm had 1 good album. The follow up, not so much.

by **StoneCold** » Tue May 27, 2008 4:36 am

Allied Forces wrote:... The Storm had 1 good album. The follow up, not so much.

Agreed, that's why I'm using "The Storm" and not "Eye Of ... " as the poll question.

Vladan wrote:Bah! where is the option "its not Journey without Perry" Since when was Journey recognized for the guitarist? only a select few would say, only a select few...

I didn't mention Perry as poll question because for better or worse the reality is that Journey DID exist before Perry and has existed since. Admittedly, his contributions took them to their highest peak which is why we're all here. Plus it'd skew the whole poll. :lol:

The Storm however was able to emulate the Journey sound without both Neal and Perry.

by **mistiejourney** » Tue May 27, 2008 6:19 am

I was so desperate for ANYTHING Journey, that I bought the Storm CDs. (Not such a fan of Bad English, but I bought them, too!)

I thought they were great!

by **Journey/Survivor** » Tue May 27, 2008 7:05 am

Vladan wrote:Bah! where is the option "its not Journey without Perry" Since when was Journey recognized for the guitarist? only a select few would say, only a select few...

A lot more people think of Neal Schon first than I think you realize when their thinking about Journey.

Plus Kevin Chalfant sounds so similar to Steve Perry. Granted, Josh Ramos has his similarities to Neal Schon.

by **Journey/Survivor** » Tue May 27, 2008 7:08 am

Ms_M wrote:I preferred BE to The Storm, too. Did see them when they opened for BA in '92. Great show - Rollie was all over the Journey stuff. At that point, it seemed like the closest thing I was going to get to a Journey show.

Yeah, I saw them open one show for BA and another for Peter Frampton.

by **Journey/Survivor** » Tue May 27, 2008 7:11 am

WykkedSensation wrote:The Storm any day over Bad English. BE had John Waite for a start off, who is so ridiculously overrated. Nah The Storm blow BE away for me with consumate ease.

I like both Perry and Chalfant even better than Waite, but I don't think that Waite is overrated, he's pretty damn good IMO.

by **Journey/Survivor** » Tue May 27, 2008 7:13 am

Allied Forces wrote:I didn't care for Bad English. The Storm had 1 good album. The follow up, not so much.

I prefer The Storm's first album over their second one too, but I think were in the minority on that?

I do still like their second one however.

by **Razor** » Tue May 27, 2008 8:44 am

The Storm was actually pretty good. However I've always found most songs of them way way too sweet and cheesy. (yuk!)

Bad English kicked ass, great leadsinger, great dynamic guitar playing, great energizing songs. Should never have stopped IMO.
They even had hits in Europe and in my country as well, still having one in our top 1000 of all time... :O

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Tue May 27, 2008 11:15 am

Saint John wrote:Great points. If it weren't for Neal, this band would have been done in 86, 96 and 06.

i used to find your comments to be insightful and witty.. now i just read violence and hidden propoganda..

..

BWAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Tue May 27, 2008 11:21 am

Red13JoePa wrote:Bad English CRUSHES The Storm.
Lay Down is the single best track of both albums combined. Tall Stories, too.

Tough times dont Last .. is a monster rocker.. that sucker is right on the money.... but now go listen to Humanimal!!!!.....

Humanimal is a masterpiece of rock n roll !! legacy? please..

by **WalrusOct9** » Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 am

Ramos was an entirely capable guitarist, but I couldn't get into most of the Storm stuff without Neal's writing. You can replace Neal's chops, but not his creative input.

by **youkeepmewaiting** » Tue May 27, 2008 10:37 pm

I was never a fan of Rolies voice that much. Until I started listening to The Storm then I feel in love with it.

The Storm songs are easier to listen to, whereas Bad English had better song writing.

MR

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