OT - NFL playoff ranking system

[S2M]

I was just thinkiing. Sometimes i do that. I believe the current NFL playoff system is unfair. I also believe the NBA system is fair. Therefore, I think the NFL should adopt the NBA's system.

The current NFL system allows for a division winner, regardless of record, to qualify for the playoffs - where a team with a better record would be a wildcard, or not even make the playoffs if that team doewn't win their division.

For instance:

Let's say the NFC looks like this:

East:

Giants 11-3
Dallas 11-3(really 9-5, but for purposes of this post, 11-3 works better)
Philly 8-5-1
Washington 7-7

North

Minnesota 9-5
Green Bay 8-6
Chicago 5-9
Detroit 0-14

South

Carolina 11-3
Tampa Bay 10-4(again, really 9-5, but for purposes, I changed it)
Atlanta 9-5
New Orleans 7-7

West

Arizona 8-6
San Francisco 5-9
Seattle 3-11
St. Louis 2-12

In the current system, the 4 divisional winners would be in(let's just assume the season ended today) Giants, Carolina, Arizona, and Minnesota. The TWo wild card winners would be Dallas and Tampa. And Atlanta would get fucked with a record of 9-5, because Arizona, with a record of 8-6, is a divisional winner.

This stuff happens all the time....

The current basketball system basically ranks the 8 teams in each conference(East, and West) and ranks them 1 through 8, and then when the playoffs start: 1 plays 8, 2 plays 7, 3 plays 6, and 5 plays 4....to ME this is the ONLY fair way.

Transfering that system to the NFC, it would look like this, more or less(because I'm NOT going through all the tie-breakers)

1) Giants
2) Carolina
3) Dallas
4) Tampa Bay
5) Minnesota
6) Atlanta
7) Arizona
8 Green Bay


Ok, all you football fanatics, what is your take?

[JRNYFan]

I think the amount of teams getting in is just fine, but I agree with you that non-division winners should be given a higher seed over division winners with a smaller winning percentage. Arizona is in the worst division in football, but yet they will end up hosting the first round against a wild card team, which will inevitably be better than they are.

[Don]

You've got the possibility of having a division winner with a 500 record this year if Denver continues to choke and the Chargers stay lucky.

[Michigan Girl]

Where are the Lions....

[S2M]

Where are the Lions....

Are YOU serious????

[Michigan Girl]

Where are the Lions....

Are YOU serious????

LOL
Are YOU?!?!? :wink:

[Rockindeano]

Where are the Lions....

Are YOU serious????

Getting prepped and fired up for the Draft.

[JRNYFan]

Where are the Lions....

Are YOU serious????

Getting prepped and fired up for the Draft.

If you're going to suck you might as well suck at the very bottom so you can get the top pick.

[mikemarrs]

very good chance the lions draft a QB and they could go with tim tebow or matt stafford.

[YoungJRNY]

I was just thinkiing. Sometimes i do that. I believe the current NFL playoff system is unfair. I also believe the NBA system is fair. Therefore, I think the NFL should adopt the NBA's system.

The current NFL system allows for a division winner, regardless of record, to qualify for the playoffs - where a team with a better record would be a wildcard, or not even make the playoffs if that team doewn't win their division.

For instance:

Let's say the NFC looks like this:

East:

Giants 11-3
Dallas 11-3(really 9-5, but for purposes of this post, 11-3 works better)
Philly 8-5-1
Washington 7-7

North

Minnesota 9-5
Green Bay 8-6
Chicago 5-9
Detroit 0-14

South

Carolina 11-3
Tampa Bay 10-4(again, really 9-5, but for purposes, I changed it)
Atlanta 9-5
New Orleans 7-7

West

Arizona 8-6
San Francisco 5-9
Seattle 3-11
St. Louis 2-12

In the current system, the 4 divisional winners would be in(let's just assume the season ended today) Giants, Carolina, Arizona, and Minnesota. The TWo wild card winners would be Dallas and Tampa. And Atlanta would get fucked with a record of 9-5, because Arizona, with a record of 8-6, is a divisional winner.

This stuff happens all the time....

The current basketball system basically ranks the 8 teams in each conference(East, and West) and ranks them 1 through 8, and then when the playoffs start: 1 plays 8, 2 plays 7, 3 plays 6, and 5 plays 4....to ME this is the ONLY fair way.

Transfering that system to the NFC, it would look like this, more or less(because I'm NOT going through all the tie-breakers)

1) Giants
2) Carolina
3) Dallas
4) Tampa Bay
5) Minnesota
6) Atlanta
7) Arizona
8 Green Bay


Ok, all you football fanatics, what is your take?

The NFL is fine the way it is. It is simply a successful system, and the way it is set up, the NFL locks down on it's teams if they want to bid on a playoff birth, plain and simple.

First and foremost, is the division. You play only a 16 game schedule, but yet, play everyone in your division twice, so outside of the division, nothing else really matters unless you have a weak division record. The NBA plays a 5,000 game schedule, and it's easier for teams to get in via Wins and losses, which is the way it should be since the amount of games played.

That's why the NFL works and is the best sport of professionalism. If you don't win your division, then you better find another way to get in.. even with help.. or else. On some cases it comes down to two teams a year within a division then it can get fun with all of the tiebreakers mixed in and teams start watching the scoreboard to see how the thing will play out. The NFL is just more interesting and fun, while the NBA just plays a horrid amount of games and at the end just calculate the wins and losses, then plug in. The NFL is more of a strategy war, and if teams get screwed because of record, so be it, it's YOUR division that counts then everything else follows. It is a do or die league, no matter your record.

[Michigan Girl]

Where are the Lions....

Are YOU serious????

Getting prepped and fired up for the Draft.

If you're going to suck you might as well suck at the very bottom so you can get the top pick.

My thoughts, exactly!!!!

[lights1961]

I was just thinkiing. Sometimes i do that. I believe the current NFL playoff system is unfair. I also believe the NBA system is fair. Therefore, I think the NFL should adopt the NBA's system.

The current NFL system allows for a division winner, regardless of record, to qualify for the playoffs - where a team with a better record would be a wildcard, or not even make the playoffs if that team doewn't win their division.

For instance:

Let's say the NFC looks like this:

East:

Giants 11-3
Dallas 11-3(really 9-5, but for purposes of this post, 11-3 works better)
Philly 8-5-1
Washington 7-7

North

Minnesota 9-5
Green Bay 8-6
Chicago 5-9
Detroit 0-14

South

Carolina 11-3
Tampa Bay 10-4(again, really 9-5, but for purposes, I changed it)
Atlanta 9-5
New Orleans 7-7

West

Arizona 8-6
San Francisco 5-9
Seattle 3-11
St. Louis 2-12

In the current system, the 4 divisional winners would be in(let's just assume the season ended today) Giants, Carolina, Arizona, and Minnesota. The TWo wild card winners would be Dallas and Tampa. And Atlanta would get fucked with a record of 9-5, because Arizona, with a record of 8-6, is a divisional winner.

This stuff happens all the time....

The current basketball system basically ranks the 8 teams in each conference(East, and West) and ranks them 1 through 8, and then when the playoffs start: 1 plays 8, 2 plays 7, 3 plays 6, and 5 plays 4....to ME this is the ONLY fair way.

Transfering that system to the NFC, it would look like this, more or less(because I'm NOT going through all the tie-breakers)

1) Giants
2) Carolina
3) Dallas
4) Tampa Bay
5) Minnesota
6) Atlanta
7) Arizona
8 Green Bay


Ok, all you football fanatics, what is your take?

The NFL is fine the way it is. It is simply a successful system, and the way it is set up, the NFL locks down on it's teams if they want to bid on a playoff birth, plain and simple.

First and foremost, is the division. You play only a 16 game schedule, but yet, play everyone in your division twice, so outside of the division, nothing else really matters unless you have a weak division record. The NBA plays a 5,000 game schedule, and it's easier for teams to get in via Wins and losses, which is the way it should be since the amount of games played.

That's why the NFL works and is the best sport of professionalism. If you don't win your division, then you better find another way to get in.. even with help.. or else. On some cases it comes down to two teams a year within a division then it can get fun with all of the tiebreakers mixed in and teams start watching the scoreboard to see how the thing will play out. The NFL is just more interesting and fun, while the NBA just plays a horrid amount of games and at the end just calculate the wins and losses, then plug in. The NFL is more of a strategy war, and if teams get screwed because of record, so be it, it's YOUR division that counts then everything else follows. It is a do or die league, no matter your record.

the NFL is all about winning the division first and getting home field and its one and done... some years one divison sucks the other year another division sucks...

if the NBA playoffs were one and done instead of 6 lousy teams doing a best of 5 first round games... it would be better... one in done in the NBA would be great... especially for those crappy first round games..

Rick

Could Tebow save DETROIT as a city and a team, or would Bradord do it better...

The Packers need someone to save them for the next 5 years or so.. Rogers wont be the guy!! If you are the Packers and Tebow or Bradford or MCCoy from Texas is still in the draft do you take one of those guys...

Rick

Rick

[Rockindeano]

very good chance the lions draft a QB and they could go with tim tebow or matt stafford.

LOL. Dude, submit yourself for drug testing asap. Teebow? He isn't going to be the 1st, 2nd or 3rd QB drafted, if at all. Bradford, if he comes out, will go higher than Teebow. McCoy is staying, as is Harrell. There are no real good QB's coming out this year, unless Bradford elects to. Otherwise, you would have Bradford, McCoy, Harrell, Chase Daniel all over Teebow for QB. Even Sanchez from SC projects higher that Teebow. And Stafford? He is ticketed for Euro league.

[S2M]

I was just thinkiing. Sometimes i do that. I believe the current NFL playoff system is unfair. I also believe the NBA system is fair. Therefore, I think the NFL should adopt the NBA's system.

The current NFL system allows for a division winner, regardless of record, to qualify for the playoffs - where a team with a better record would be a wildcard, or not even make the playoffs if that team doewn't win their division.

For instance:

Let's say the NFC looks like this:

East:

Giants 11-3
Dallas 11-3(really 9-5, but for purposes of this post, 11-3 works better)
Philly 8-5-1
Washington 7-7

North

Minnesota 9-5
Green Bay 8-6
Chicago 5-9
Detroit 0-14

South

Carolina 11-3
Tampa Bay 10-4(again, really 9-5, but for purposes, I changed it)
Atlanta 9-5
New Orleans 7-7

West

Arizona 8-6
San Francisco 5-9
Seattle 3-11
St. Louis 2-12

In the current system, the 4 divisional winners would be in(let's just assume the season ended today) Giants, Carolina, Arizona, and Minnesota. The TWo wild card winners would be Dallas and Tampa. And Atlanta would get fucked with a record of 9-5, because Arizona, with a record of 8-6, is a divisional winner.

This stuff happens all the time....

The current basketball system basically ranks the 8 teams in each conference(East, and West) and ranks them 1 through 8, and then when the playoffs start: 1 plays 8, 2 plays 7, 3 plays 6, and 5 plays 4....to ME this is the ONLY fair way.

Transfering that system to the NFC, it would look like this, more or less(because I'm NOT going through all the tie-breakers)

1) Giants
2) Carolina
3) Dallas
4) Tampa Bay
5) Minnesota
6) Atlanta
7) Arizona
8 Green Bay


Ok, all you football fanatics, what is your take?

The NFL is fine the way it is. It is simply a successful system, and the way it is set up, the NFL locks down on it's teams if they want to bid on a playoff birth, plain and simple.

First and foremost, is the division. You play only a 16 game schedule, but yet, play everyone in your division twice, so outside of the division, nothing else really matters unless you have a weak division record. The NBA plays a 5,000 game schedule, and it's easier for teams to get in via Wins and losses, which is the way it should be since the amount of games played.

That's why the NFL works and is the best sport of professionalism. If you don't win your division, then you better find another way to get in.. even with help.. or else. On some cases it comes down to two teams a year within a division then it can get fun with all of the tiebreakers mixed in and teams start watching the scoreboard to see how the thing will play out. The NFL is just more interesting and fun, while the NBA just plays a horrid amount of games and at the end just calculate the wins and losses, then plug in. The NFL is more of a strategy war, and if teams get screwed because of record, so be it, it's YOUR division that counts then everything else follows. It is a do or die league, no matter your record.

Travis, the point isn't the amount of games played. I don't care if the NBA only played 40 games. Their playoff ranking system is still the most sensible way to rank teams.

How can you say that an 8-8 team that wins its division should get in, but a 10-3 team that didn't win its division doesn't? Any way you look at it, it is plain wrong. This isn't College basketball. Bottom feeders hardly ever upset better teams.

[Enigma869]

Could Tebow save DETROIT as a city and a team, or would Bradord do it better...

There is a chance that Tebow will NEVER play QB in the NFL. I would be VERY surprised if any team drafted Tebow in the first round to play QB in the NFL.

[Enigma869]

I think the amount of teams getting in is just fine, but I agree with you that non-division winners should be given a higher seed over division winners with a smaller winning percentage.

This has been my biggest criticism of the NFL playoff system. Teams with the best records should be in, regardless of division standing. The fact that the pathetic Chargers are still technically in the playoff hunt is an embarrassment to the NFL!