Which current act compares to the magic of Perry 81/83

[Rockindeano]

You could put Jesus motherfucking Christ in The Beatles, and it still wouldn't compare to what Journey had going on live in the early 80's.

Well, not to pick on you here, but Journey paled to Springsteen live back in "the day" and still do now. People in the industry say Springsteen "invented" the concert. When you play 5-6 hours a night, and it's all live and from the gut, Journey even with Perry, had no chance.

Flame away haters.

By the way Don, Bon Jovi isn't as big as Bruce be it here or overseas. Not quite.

Who the hell would want to hear him yelling for 5 freaking hours?

For someone who actually plays music, you are completely clueless. If you ever actually listened to the man sing, you would know he is quite capable. One of the best live singers in music.

You know Jim, not every band has to have soaring tenor voices, and piercing dated keyboards. You should open up your musical horizons some time, rather than just dismiss certain acts for ridiculously blind and jealous reasons.

[Rockindeano]

I know it isn't the same genre, but MJ was better than Journey, Bruce, U2, Jovi....whomever. Better meaning bigger, more popular....I wouldn't make a judgment call as to talent. Personally, I think MJ was very talented....

Even Dean cannot argue this fact.....

The Hell I can't argue it. MJ's album sales were the biggest. His tours however, weren't as big as some other acts. I haven't looked it up, but I would bet that MJ's 80's tours weren't as big as Born in the USA, Joshua Tree, Steel Wheels, Slippery When Wet, Appetite for Destruction, or even Frontiers.

I saw Jackson "Live"(which he hardly was), in LA. Entertaining, yes. Real live talent? Not so much. he clearly lipped the show. The guy can dance like no other, but you never see him play an instrument, or even sing live.

I was a HUGE Jackson 5 fan as a kid. However, I don't know if the guy even wrote his own music. Like I said, he certainly could entertain, and you can't take that away from him, but I seriously question his "writing and playing talent."

As for Dan saying he was the world's biggest star ever....maybe. Elvis is STILL the King, sells more albums now that he is dead than he was alive. That is an important point and I'll tell you why. The Internet. When Elvis was alive, there was no real global market for him. There was no way he could sell itunes or Mp3 downloads. He sold his records the good old fashioned way, in stores. There weren't 20K hockey arenas at every city for the King to play as there were for MJ. Just a lot of variables that when taken into consideration, shows the contrast between the King and the so called "king of pop." I am not taking anything away from the freak, just sayin'......

[parfait]

You could put Jesus motherfucking Christ in The Beatles, and it still wouldn't compare to what Journey had going on live in the early 80's.

Well, not to pick on you here, but Journey paled to Springsteen live back in "the day" and still do now. People in the industry say Springsteen "invented" the concert. When you play 5-6 hours a night, and it's all live and from the gut, Journey even with Perry, had no chance.

Flame away haters.

By the way Don, Bon Jovi isn't as big as Bruce be it here or overseas. Not quite.

Who the hell would want to hear him yelling for 5 freaking hours?

For someone who actually plays music, you are completely clueless. If you ever actually listened to the man sing, you would know he is quite capable. One of the best live singers in music.

You know Jim, not every band has to have soaring tenor voices, and piercing dated keyboards. You should open up your musical horizons some time, rather than just dismiss certain acts for ridiculously blind and jealous reasons.

I don't get your mancrush for Springsteen. He obviously is better at writing songs and it in a totally different league than Journey when it comes to fanbase, but wouldn't have a fucking chance against Neal and Perry in their prime and win at raw, musical talent.

[kgdjpubs]

Well, not to pick on you here, but Journey paled to Springsteen live back in "the day" and still do now. People in the industry say Springsteen "invented" the concert. When you play 5-6 hours a night, and it's all live and from the gut, Journey even with Perry, had no chance.

Who the hell would want to hear him yelling for 5 freaking hours?

If you ever actually listened to the man sing, you would know he is quite capable. One of the best live singers in music.

Giving Springsteen his due, he is a MUCH better singer than he was in the 80s, and has done very well getting around the limitations of his voice. That said, he may be one of the best frontmen out there, but there are a BUNCH of people who can sing circles around him. Please be realistic here.

[Art Vandelay]

Not that I've seen either of these acts live (honestly I'm more into intimate, small venues and not so much the big crowds anymore), but I'm really surprised to not see McCartney or the Stones on here. Both are pure classic acts and could easily do a stadium tour still to this day. Even though McCartney is considered a solo artist, his band is solid and tighter than shit and everyone that I know who has seen him recently has had nothing but the highest praise for him and his shows. I would also put Elton John in that category, especially since he has 2/3 of his classic band with him again (Nigel on drums and Davey on guitar). Pure magic in my book.

[Rockindeano]

You could put Jesus motherfucking Christ in The Beatles, and it still wouldn't compare to what Journey had going on live in the early 80's.

Well, not to pick on you here, but Journey paled to Springsteen live back in "the day" and still do now. People in the industry say Springsteen "invented" the concert. When you play 5-6 hours a night, and it's all live and from the gut, Journey even with Perry, had no chance.

Flame away haters.

By the way Don, Bon Jovi isn't as big as Bruce be it here or overseas. Not quite.

Who the hell would want to hear him yelling for 5 freaking hours?

For someone who actually plays music, you are completely clueless. If you ever actually listened to the man sing, you would know he is quite capable. One of the best live singers in music.

You know Jim, not every band has to have soaring tenor voices, and piercing dated keyboards. You should open up your musical horizons some time, rather than just dismiss certain acts for ridiculously blind and jealous reasons.

I don't get your mancrush for Springsteen. He obviously is better at writing songs and it in a totally different league than Journey when it comes to fanbase, but wouldn't have a fucking chance against Neal and Perry in their prime and win.

Fuckmouth, stop with the mancrush crap. I am a fan of his, a big fan. I also am a fan of Bryan Adams and John Cougar Mellencamp, and Steve Perry. Does that make me a a fag? Come on already. I point out FACTS in my arguments.

As for your ridiculous argument about talent and comparing the three. Bruce is just flat out more talented than either Perry or Neal. He writes the entire album- the lyrics, the music. He writes the drum part, the piano, organ, bass, guitars(for three guitarists), and even the glockenspiel. He does let Clarence write and elaborate on the sax. He plays the piano, organ, bass, guitar, and oh yeah, and he sings too. Neal and Steve never have written entire albums like that. I don't honestly know if they could.


Bruce is an amazing talent. I still admire the talents of Journey too. The only difference now, and I admit it, is their horrible character. If Bruce was a complete douchebag like Neal and Cain, I would hate his ass too, but he is just the opposite....same with BA. They are good guys and treat people and their own band, with much respect and love. The thing that gets you Springsteen haters is the fact that I can bring in facts when we have fun pitting the two bands together, and i "win" most of the time.

As for your ridiculous comment about "not winning" against Steve and Neal in their prime, he DID win and still is winning, and that just pisses you all off. I love it.

[Art Vandelay]

You could put Jesus motherfucking Christ in The Beatles, and it still wouldn't compare to what Journey had going on live in the early 80's.

Well, not to pick on you here, but Journey paled to Springsteen live back in "the day" and still do now. People in the industry say Springsteen "invented" the concert. When you play 5-6 hours a night, and it's all live and from the gut, Journey even with Perry, had no chance.

Flame away haters.

By the way Don, Bon Jovi isn't as big as Bruce be it here or overseas. Not quite.

Who the hell would want to hear him yelling for 5 freaking hours?

For someone who actually plays music, you are completely clueless. If you ever actually listened to the man sing, you would know he is quite capable. One of the best live singers in music.

You know Jim, not every band has to have soaring tenor voices, and piercing dated keyboards. You should open up your musical horizons some time, rather than just dismiss certain acts for ridiculously blind and jealous reasons.

I don't get your mancrush for Springsteen. He obviously is better at writing songs and it in a totally different league than Journey when it comes to fanbase, but wouldn't have a fucking chance against Neal and Perry in their prime and win.

Fuckmouth, stop with the mancrush crap. I am a fan of his, a big fan. I also am a fan of Bryan Adams and John Cougar Mellencamp, and Steve Perry. Does that make me a a fag? Come on already. I point out FACTS in my arguments.

As for your ridiculous argument about talent and comparing the three. Bruce is just flat out more talented than either Perry or Neal. He writes the entire album- the lyrics, the music. He writes the drum part, the piano, organ, bass, guitars(for three guitarists), and even the glockenspiel. He does let Clarence write and elaborate on the sax. He plays the piano, organ, bass, guitar, and oh yeah, and he sings too. Neal and Steve never have written entire albums like that. I don't honestly know if they could.


Bruce is an amazing talent. I still admire the talents of Journey too. The only difference now, and I admit it, is their horrible character. If Bruce was a complete douchebag like Neal and Cain, I would hate his ass too, but he is just the opposite....same with BA. They are good guys and treat people and their own band, with much respect and love. The thing that gets you Springsteen haters is the fact that I can bring in facts when we have fun pitting the two bands together, and i "win" most of the time.

As for your ridiculous comment about "not winning" against Steve and Neal in their prime, he DID win and still is winning, and that just pisses you all off. I love it.

Bruce also has the capability to pull off a show that is not only 5-6 hours, but also very impromptu and unscripted. I recently heard an interview with Nils where he said that Bruce can throw out a different suggestion to the band every night, at virtually any time of the show...and they need to be ready for it. For as electrifying as Journey's shows are/were, they are very scripted and structured. Nothing wrong with that. Most acts are like that and have to be that way. But there are very few who could do what Bruce does in the venue sizes that he plays and pull it off as well as he does.

[Rockindeano]

Well, not to pick on you here, but Journey paled to Springsteen live back in "the day" and still do now. People in the industry say Springsteen "invented" the concert. When you play 5-6 hours a night, and it's all live and from the gut, Journey even with Perry, had no chance.

Who the hell would want to hear him yelling for 5 freaking hours?

If you ever actually listened to the man sing, you would know he is quite capable. One of the best live singers in music.

Giving Springsteen his due, he is a MUCH better singer than he was in the 80s, and has done very well getting around the limitations of his voice. That said, he may be one of the best frontmen out there, but there are a BUNCH of people who can sing circles around him. Please be realistic here.

I AM being realistic. I know he isn't a Perry. Come on already. However, like you said, he is a 100% better now at the age of 61 versus 21 years old. He is not a soaring tenor. so what? I was making a case for being a live singer. I can tell you that, in addition to being the best front man in music(that's not even debateable), he is a better singer than most on stage- he can outsing Bono easily, Mick, Jon Bon Jovi, BA and a host of others...I have said all along, he sounds so much better live than in his studio albulms. I think his studio albums suck compared to live boots. I could make the case he sounds better live than Pineda does. No, he can't belt out the tenor songs, but his emotive delivery, which Deb harps on relentlessly, is unmatched in music. NO ONE has more emotion in his singing than Bruce does. Perry had it for sure back in the day.

I have never came out and said the man was the greatest vocalist alive, but when folks like GI Jim come in and have NO clue what they are talking about, I have to make a case against.

[Jana]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbZ6HIxr28c

[Saint John]

I have thought about seeing Springsteen more than a few times, but I just can't bring myself to go to a show that opens with a disgusting act of homosexuality. If he stops kissing that big, ugly sax player on the lips, I'll reconsider.

[Michigan Girl]

I AM being realistic. I know he isn't a Perry. Come on already. However, like you said, he is a 100% better now at the age of 61 versus 21 years old. He is not a soaring tenor. so what? I was making a case for being a live singer. I can tell you that, in addition to being the best front man in music(that's not even debateable), he is a better singer than most on stage, he can outsing Bono easily, Mick, Jon Bon Jovi, BA and a host of others ...I have said all along, he sounds so much better live than in his studio albulms. I think his studio albums suck compared to live boots. I could make the case he sounds better live than Pineda does. No, he can't belt out the tenor songs, but his emotive delivery, which Deb harps on relentlessly, is unmatched in music. NO ONE has more emotion in his singing than Bruce does. Perry had it for sure back in the day.

I have never came out and said the man was the greatest vocalist alive, but when folks like GI Jim come in and have NO clue what they are talking about, I have to make a case against.

I very much agree w/the bolded!! Love Bruce, Live!!
A LOT of emotion in a Bruce song ...live or otherwise!!:wink:

[Art Vandelay]

I have thought about seeing Springsteen more than a few times, but I just can't bring myself to go to a show that opens with a disgusting act of homosexuality. If he stops kissing that big, ugly sax player on the lips, I'll reconsider.

At least he's not dressed like Randy, ala 1986!

[Jana]

I think Muse is an extremely talented present-day band. Though, Matthew Bellamy needs to come down off his falsetto singing more. But this guy is flat-out brilliant, one of the most brilliant (I don't use that word lightly) musicians to come along in a long time. He writes their music, plays a mean guitar, and also plays piano, keyboards, great frontman, and composes some beautiful music. Their music is so hard to define: hard rock/ progressive/electronic rock, alternative rock, progressive rock/classical is how it is described.

Just listen to this third t part of a three-part symphony he put on their last album, which was so unexpected. So hauntingly beautiful. He wrote it all himself.

Oops. I put some guy covering it.
Here's the real 3rd part:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4EqjvnW ... re=related

[S2M]

I think Muse is an extremely talented present-day band. Though, Matthew Bellamy needs to come down off his falsetto singing more. But this guy is flat-out brilliant, one of the most brilliant (I don't use that word lightly) musicians to come along in a long time. He writes their music, plays a mean guitar, and also plays piano, keyboards, great frontman, and composes some beautiful music. Their music is so hard to define: hard rock/ progressive/electronic rock, alternative rock, progressive rock/classical is how it is described.

Just listen to this third t part of a three-part symphony he put on their last album, which was so unexpected. So hauntingly beautiful. He wrote it all himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtBhLdPq ... re=related

Jana, seriously, why are you here?

From a 'friend' posting standpoint you make sense....but from a music standpoint - you are about as relavent as David Duke at a Harlem Globetrotter's Game....

[Jana]

I think Muse is an extremely talented present-day band. Though, Matthew Bellamy needs to come down off his falsetto singing more. But this guy is flat-out brilliant, one of the most brilliant (I don't use that word lightly) musicians to come along in a long time. He writes their music, plays a mean guitar, and also plays piano, keyboards, great frontman, and composes some beautiful music. Their music is so hard to define: hard rock/ progressive/electronic rock, alternative rock, progressive rock/classical is how it is described.

Just listen to this third t part of a three-part symphony he put on their last album, which was so unexpected. So hauntingly beautiful. He wrote it all himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtBhLdPq ... re=related

Jana, seriously, why are you here?

From a 'friend' posting standpoint you make sense....but from a music standpoint - you are about as relavent as David Duke at a Harlem Globetrotter's Game....

I posted a cover accidentally. Here's the real song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4EqjvnW ... re=related

You're one to talk after seeing your long list of favorite acts most have never heard of. But, true, sometimes I wonder why I am here.

[Deb]

I think Muse is an extremely talented present-day band. Though, Matthew Bellamy needs to come down off his falsetto singing more. But this guy is flat-out brilliant, one of the most brilliant (I don't use that word lightly) musicians to come along in a long time. He writes their music, plays a mean guitar, and also plays piano, keyboards, great frontman, and composes some beautiful music. Their music is so hard to define: hard rock/ progressive/electronic rock, alternative rock, progressive rock/classical is how it is described.

Just listen to this third t part of a three-part symphony he put on their last album, which was so unexpected. So hauntingly beautiful. He wrote it all himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtBhLdPq ... re=related

Jana, seriously, why are you here?

From a 'friend' posting standpoint you make sense....but from a music standpoint - you are about as relavent as David Duke at a Harlem Globetrotter's Game....

I posted a cover accidentally. Here's the real song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4EqjvnW ... re=related

You're one to talk after seeing your long list of favorite acts most have never heard of. But, true, sometimes I wonder why I am here.

Because, just like Disney, it's the happiest place on earth! Bwahahahahaha!

[Rockindeano]

I think Muse is an extremely talented present-day band. Though, Matthew Bellamy needs to come down off his falsetto singing more. But this guy is flat-out brilliant, one of the most brilliant (I don't use that word lightly) musicians to come along in a long time. He writes their music, plays a mean guitar, and also plays piano, keyboards, great frontman, and composes some beautiful music. Their music is so hard to define: hard rock/ progressive/electronic rock, alternative rock, progressive rock/classical is how it is described.

Just listen to this third t part of a three-part symphony he put on their last album, which was so unexpected. So hauntingly beautiful. He wrote it all himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtBhLdPq ... re=related

Jana, seriously, why are you here?

From a 'friend' posting standpoint you make sense....but from a music standpoint - you are about as relavent as David Duke at a Harlem Globetrotter's Game....

I posted a cover accidentally. Here's the real song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4EqjvnW ... re=related

You're one to talk after seeing your long list of favorite acts most have never heard of. But, true, sometimes I wonder why I am here.

Thanks for posting that Jana. I enjoyed that quite a bit.

As for S2M ridiculing ANYBODY'S music taste is hysterical. That guy has the WORST taste I have ever seen.

[S2M]

I'm not ridiculing anybody's taste in music....I just don't think it belongs on a Melodic Rock site...

and FYI - my list was a classic list of MR type bands...

[Chevypv]

recorded? nope, but live, yes. I saw Alter Bridge recently and they put on a live show that rivals escape era Journey from what i have seen.