Another band I would love to see tour w/ Journey in 2011

[steveo777]

I'd love to see the Escape Tribute Band open for Journey. Give the crowd a "are you sure that guy isn't Perry" moment, then see them try to sit through the headliner. You gotta admit it would be interesting.

Huge problem with that line of thinking. You must think Soto is still with the band. AP is the real deal.

Would have liked have heard at least one new Soto-fronted Journey album.

Deb....sigh.....it didn't happen for a reason.

[Don]

Soto probably didn't match the height requirements anyway.

He's landed on his feet so it's all worked out. JSS has cemented his place as the lead male vocal for TSO's West wing, gotten to enjoy two consecutive Top 25 tours. TSO continues to roll on with no end in sight and Jeff still has plenty of time for his side projects. Even if it's not the greatest job in the world, it has to better than what he was doing in Talisman.

[superreverb]

The real deal, yet they had to re-record all the vocal tracks again, throwing the time line into disarray to the point of bringing in someone else to mix the disc because the NEW KING didn't feel the need to work on his accent issues during his down time.

I'm not Challenging this in the least. but you guys know all the spots, (And i've learned of a few from you guys, like KS's Blog and Neal's FB Page) I'm wondering where to read about this, just intrigued about the new album, and I'd like to read about the Process that had them re cutting all the vocals (So close to me

Did they record all the vocals 1st? and had to re record all the vocals on the album over again, because of Arnel's accent ? I "ASSUMED" (And should never assume) that they just Started, and finished all the vocals in Nashville, figured they saved the vocal process to the end as many do.

[Deb]

Soto probably didn't match the height requirements anyway.

He's landed on his feet so it's all worked out. JSS has cemented his place as the lead male vocal for TSO's West wing, gotten to enjoy two consecutive Top 25 tours. TSO continues to roll on with no end in sight and Jeff still has plenty of time for his side projects. Even if it's not the greatest job in the world, it has to better than what he was doing in Talisman.

True, he's made a pretty comfortable living doing what he loves for the last 25 years, so it's all good. But I'd still like to have heard at least one album with Journey though. With his soulful ROR type delivery and his vocals on WET, mix it with Journey I think it could have been an excellent album.

[Don]

Soto probably didn't match the height requirements anyway.

He's landed on his feet so it's all worked out. JSS has cemented his place as the lead male vocal for TSO's West wing, gotten to enjoy two consecutive Top 25 tours. TSO continues to roll on with no end in sight and Jeff still has plenty of time for his side projects. Even if it's not the greatest job in the world, it has to better than what he was doing in Talisman.

True, he's made a pretty comfortable living doing what he loves for the last 25 years, so it's all good. But I'd still like to have heard at least one album with Journey. With his soulful ROR type delivery and his vocals on WET, mix it with Journey I think it could have been an excellent album.

Even if it was an excellent album, he didn't have the sympathy angle to milk, another group of fans to bring in or any of those other intangibles. He could have brought the band the same success that Augeri had previously but maybe not much more.

I think this upcoming album from Journey might give us an idea of how a JSS fronted Journey might have fared. No package deal and the sob story has been mostly played out so this record should be selling just on Journey's brand name and pretty much nothing else this time around, just like it would have done with Jeff in the group.

[Melissa]

Soto probably didn't match the height requirements anyway.

He's landed on his feet so it's all worked out. JSS has cemented his place as the lead male vocal for TSO's West wing, gotten to enjoy two consecutive Top 25 tours. TSO continues to roll on with no end in sight and Jeff still has plenty of time for his side projects. Even if it's not the greatest job in the world, it has to better than what he was doing in Talisman.

True, he's made a pretty comfortable living doing what he loves for the last 25 years, so it's all good. But I'd still like to have heard at least one album with Journey though. With his soulful ROR type delivery and his vocals on WET, mix it with Journey I think it could have been an excellent album.

+1!

[Deb]

Soto probably didn't match the height requirements anyway.

He's landed on his feet so it's all worked out. JSS has cemented his place as the lead male vocal for TSO's West wing, gotten to enjoy two consecutive Top 25 tours. TSO continues to roll on with no end in sight and Jeff still has plenty of time for his side projects. Even if it's not the greatest job in the world, it has to better than what he was doing in Talisman.

True, he's made a pretty comfortable living doing what he loves for the last 25 years, so it's all good. But I'd still like to have heard at least one album with Journey. With his soulful ROR type delivery and his vocals on WET, mix it with Journey I think it could have been an excellent album.

Even if it was an excellent album, he didn't have the sympathy angle to milk, another group of fans to bring in or any of those other intangibles. He could have brought the band the same success that Augeri had previously but maybe not much more.

I think this upcoming album from Journey might give us an idea of how a JSS fronted Journey might have fared. No package deal and the sob story has been mostly played out so this record should be selling just on Journey's brand name and pretty much nothing else this time around, just like it would have done with Jeff in the group.

That's one thing that makes me sick about the music biz now, it is soooooooooooo much on marketing, not talent. You've got absolute crap out there selling millions because of the marketing/fame and great talent being missed. You can just bet, if he became some fame hound and, say, ran off and married Kim Kardashian or something, his albums would sell, from the Fame factor alone.

[steveo777]

Soto probably didn't match the height requirements anyway.

He's landed on his feet so it's all worked out. JSS has cemented his place as the lead male vocal for TSO's West wing, gotten to enjoy two consecutive Top 25 tours. TSO continues to roll on with no end in sight and Jeff still has plenty of time for his side projects. Even if it's not the greatest job in the world, it has to better than what he was doing in Talisman.

True, he's made a pretty comfortable living doing what he loves for the last 25 years, so it's all good. But I'd still like to have heard at least one album with Journey. With his soulful ROR type delivery and his vocals on WET, mix it with Journey I think it could have been an excellent album.

Even if it was an excellent album, he didn't have the sympathy angle to milk, another group of fans to bring in or any of those other intangibles. He could have brought the band the same success that Augeri had previously but maybe not much more.

I think this upcoming album from Journey might give us an idea of how a JSS fronted Journey might have fared. No package deal and the sob story has been mostly played out so this record should be selling just on Journey's brand name and pretty much nothing else this time around, just like it would have done with Jeff in the group.

That's one thing that makes me sick about the music biz now, it is soooooooooooo much on marketing, not talent. You've got absolute crap out there selling millions because of the marketing/fame and great talent being missed. You can just bet, if he became some fame hound and, say, ran off and married Kim Kardashian or something, his albums would sell, from the Fame factor alone.

You said a mouthful, there lady. And, who is the sellout? Not Journey, compared to these new acts, with all this marketing and what not. Apparently, talent is not a required asset to sell millions of records. Hell with what they said about Journey being sell outs, corporate rock and all that shit, I think those terms better define today's garbage.

[Arkansas]

Get 'Lady Antebellum' to open, and they tour a big red piano too.


later~

[Seven Wishes2]

Fuck that.

[steveo777]

Fuck that.

Second that!

[Don]

Lady Antebellum, Muse, etc. have no reason what so ever to tour with Journey. Muse sold out MSG for god's sake.
Journey is not U2 or Bon Jovi who can go on the road with high profile current bands like Daughtry or BEP as an opener. The ticket prices alone to tour with these bands would turn away a lot of Journey fans right from the start. They (and Def Leppard) are good bands that can fill certain arenas when packaged with the right acts. They're not stadium acts anymore and are very likely not going to be going 100 for 100 on sellouts either, even if all they did were small amphitheaters. They're a top 20 touring act with the right partners (other acts from their time period). Nostalgia is what is being sold here by Azoff, not a new band.

[Saint John]

Lady Antebellum, Muse, etc. have no reason what so ever to tour with Journey. Muse sold out MSG for god's sake.
Journey is not U2 or Bon Jovi who can go on the road with a high profile current bands like Daughtry or BEP as an opener. They (and Def Leppard) are good bands that can fill certain arenas when packaged with the right acts. They're not stadium acts anymore and are very likely not going to be going 100 for 100 on sellouts either, even if all they did were small amphitheaters. They're a top 20 touring act with the right partners (other acts from their time period). Nostalgia is what is being sold here by Azoff, not a new band.

Spot on. Though the band themselves can promote new music in concert, by doing radio interviews and, most of all, by playing in places where new music is embraced more ... South America, Europe and Asia.

[Don]

Lady Antebellum, Muse, etc. have no reason what so ever to tour with Journey. Muse sold out MSG for god's sake.
Journey is not U2 or Bon Jovi who can go on the road with a high profile current bands like Daughtry or BEP as an opener. They (and Def Leppard) are good bands that can fill certain arenas when packaged with the right acts. They're not stadium acts anymore and are very likely not going to be going 100 for 100 on sellouts either, even if all they did were small amphitheaters. They're a top 20 touring act with the right partners (other acts from their time period). Nostalgia is what is being sold here by Azoff, not a new band.

Spot on. Though the band themselves can promote new music in concert, by doing radio interviews and, most of all, by playing in places where new music is embraced more ... South America, Europe and Asia.

One area where Journey is actually trailing a variety of other older music acts is Japan.
Mr Big, Night Ranger, White Snake, Boz Scaggs and a ton of other artists that don't tour well here in the states still clean up in the Japanese market. Japan may have been downgraded to the third largest economy in the world but they still have plenty of purchasing power and have helped a lot of the above mentioned acts survive, even without them having success in the US Market. Herbie had enough power to even make Perry tour over there in the beginning and I'm willing to bet, SP in hindsight realizes now how important that was to his bank account.

Those other acts are playing Budokan and the Tokyo dome while Journey is still hitting the Gymnasiums and town hall circuit. A major marketing push needs to be done in Japan. The third world nations over there are nice to add to the itinerary but the land of the rising sun is still where the money is.