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Postby slucero » Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:40 pm

Rick wrote:
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slucero wrote:No.. just a lot of rest and a good warmup/rest regimen before the tracks were laid.. I hear pretty disciplined singing on the tracks... no wild ass screaming.. nothing that gets his voice into areas that are iffy...

AP may not have had to do many retakes.. but I'm sure he was told to keep it "controlled".. at least thats what I'm hearing on these two songs...


The thing with AP.. is that he's naturally all power... which is indicative of a good ability to "push" air.. but his tone is also better.. which tells me he's learning to relax his body more when he sings... watch SP singing... when he's going for those soaring notes... his neck muscles show little strain for the effort.. cause its all technique... diaphragm pushing air, not neck muscles constricting the throat to get into that higher range... thats why SP looks so relaxed when he sang... and how he could still be a finesse singer even at the top of his range...

AP is still learning that part of the technique I bet.


Just coaching then? He's clear as a fucking bell on those high notes. Good for him. That dude has one serious set of pipes. I'm a huge fan of his. He undertook a veritable monster, vocally, and has done it amazing justice.



Natural ability isn't enough... look at SP.. who was(is) and alto-tenor and had a higher base range than Arnel... its the technique and discipline that makes the difference...

When I hear AP on YT clips and he's wailing like a banshee... I still hear him in chest voice... literally all the way through his range... with some discipline and training he'll probably ADD range to his chest voice ... AND be able to "bridge" to head voice... the same way SP did... listen to SP on Winds of March, at 2:17 he sings "In your eyes..." and carries that note all the way into head voice... effortlessly..

What I'm hearing is a more controlled and mature singer... now he just needs better songs to sing..


That's talent most singers will never realize. Arnel goes into his head voice at times, but not seamlessly, like Perry did.



Agreed.... we all agree Perry was/is once in a lifetime...

Arnel however has great natural talent that has been carrying him.. and now with some real training and discipline, he can transcend that.


Part of AP's challenge lies in his background and early life...

Perry was born into a time (and a family) where the culture allowed for the embracing of music as something to be immersed in (like Motown)... to be inspired by and aspire to be like ones musical heroes... and most importantly... one was encouraged to develop ones own talent.. being an original... all of that influence shapes a singers ability to sing with power, nuance, finesse and creativity.. and when combined with technique and discipline we occasionally get a Perry..

For Arnel it (singing) was a means to an end (some would still argue it still is).... an occupation... it was how he put food in his mouth. His circumstance did not afford him the same conditions with which he could develop his own talent in the same way Perry did... and as a result instead Arnel had to learn to sing like the popular singers of the day... by mimicking them.


I think what we have now is a man with immense physical vocal skills... who is just starting to really find his own "singing" skills... He has the power.. in spades... I can't wait till he really gets control of the nuance, finesse and creativity aspects of his voice... in doing so and finding his own "voice" we may witness something truly magical...

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.


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Postby Lerxst101 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:28 am

S2M wrote:Dreadful lyrics....Neil Peart is rolling over in his future grave. :lol:

I liked the song better the first time I heard it...when it was called Virtuality

Virtuality
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52cA3f7F7K8


I must admit I cracked up and cheered when I read your post. Saw Rush at MSG last night. Quite honestly one of the best live shows I've ever seen -- band sounded better than ever, the acoustics were actually great, and the audience was amazing as well (they sold out the Garden). So happy for these guys.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:45 am

Lerxst101 wrote:
S2M wrote:Dreadful lyrics....Neil Peart is rolling over in his future grave. :lol:

I liked the song better the first time I heard it...when it was called Virtuality

Virtuality
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52cA3f7F7K8


I must admit I cracked up and cheered when I read your post. Saw Rush at MSG last night. Quite honestly one of the best live shows I've ever seen -- band sounded better than ever, the acoustics were actually great, and the audience was amazing as well (they sold out the Garden). So happy for these guys.


I'm seeing them Friday when they film their newest concert DVD at The Q here in Cleveland. Should be a GREAT show. Glad to hear they played well. But I wouldn't expect anything less.
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Postby diezynueve69 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:19 am

Funny...I was actually toying with "In a jam-goo of hard ware and masturbation..." the first time I heard the song...
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:43 am

diezynueve69 wrote:Funny...I was actually toying with "In a jam-goo of hard ware and masturbation..." the first time I heard the song...


lol
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Postby fightingilliniJRNY » Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:53 pm

Ehwmatt wrote:I'm seeing them Friday when they film their newest concert DVD at The Q here in Cleveland. Should be a GREAT show. Glad to hear they played well. But I wouldn't expect anything less.


You're going to love it. Saw them in Nashville and Louisville last week. Incredible shows. I missed the last leg of the Time Machine Tour, so I was glad they kept the set the same this year. Unbelievable stuff. Enjoy. 8)
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