Eclipse Extended Promo Video Posted

[S2M]

Original members vs. Karaoke singer.....

I thought those big screens were so we can see the band. You mean they are Karaoke screens for AP to sing off of?

Seriously, I don't know why you call him a Karaoke singer. Help me with this.

You mean this isn't him?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlKhfEWchf8

[Jana]

Original members vs. Karaoke singer.....

Well, Don said they abandoned ship during ROR. Maybe no Steve Smith and Ross did them in.

[Don]

Original members vs. Karaoke singer.....

I thought those big screens were so we can see the band. You mean they are Karaoke screens for AP to sing off of?

Seriously, I don't know why you call him a Karaoke singer. Help me with this.

Minus One, anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY_9x-GqCMg

Thank God Neal dropped the hammer on this shit.

[steveo777]

Original members vs. Karaoke singer.....

I thought those big screens were so we can see the band. You mean they are Karaoke screens for AP to sing off of?

Seriously, I don't know why you call him a Karaoke singer. Help me with this.

Minus One, anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY_9x-GqCMg

Thank God Neal dropped the hammer on this shit.

You guys are a riot. Mainstream singers go on shows all the time without a band and sing to piped in music.
Does that make all of them Karaoke singers?

[Deb]

I think radio IS a possibility.
But not in the US.

Our attention span isn't long enough. Remember when songs used to have bridges, choruses, and verses? Now they just have a riff or hook repeated over and over and over and over and over...

Ain't that the truth, talents like Mr Big can sell out the Budakon twice over still, but yet us lucky North American folk here get to listen to likes of Will Smith's kid scream about how she "whips her hair back and forth" over and over and over and over.

The japanese love ANYTHING American. They'd love Junior Samples playing the jug, while sampling in Charlie Sheen's 'Winning' over the break in Chic's Le Freak

Doesn't say much about Mr. Big's talent.....

Wrong, they thought ROR was shit and they quickly abandoned the good ship Journey because of it.

As far as in concert, Don....

Last tour, Journey played Gymnasiums while Mr. Big played Budokan. They don't just blindly follow any American act like they used to 30 years ago. The #7 song on today's Japanese iTunes Rock chart is Mr Big's 'To Be With You' so there is some type of loyalty there obviously. Japanese fans have stuck with some Western acts continuously over the years but not every band has been so lucky. The economy over there is not that good, not every 80s band concert is an instant sellout like the old days.

Individually, they do well over there too. Hell for some reason they can't get enough of EM, his Mr Vocalist CDs sell very well over there.......SonyJapan keeps wanting one more from him. Was recently watching a '91 Budakon concert dvd that had footage of before and after the concert too and their van pulls up to the venue with the band and their managers Herbie and Sandy in it and there is a bunch of Japanese women calling to Eric when he gets out and throwing all kinds of gifts down at him from above, LOL poor guy is running below trying to catch them all. Pretty sure Billy and Paul's solo stuff sells well too.

[Deb]

Original members vs. Karaoke singer.....

I thought those big screens were so we can see the band. You mean they are Karaoke screens for AP to sing off of?

Seriously, I don't know why you call him a Karaoke singer. Help me with this.

Minus One, anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY_9x-GqCMg

Thank God Neal dropped the hammer on this shit.

You guys are a riot. Mainstream singers go on shows all the time without a band and sing to piped in music.
Does that make all of them Karaoke singers?

But are they singing their own material?

[Don]

Original members vs. Karaoke singer.....

I thought those big screens were so we can see the band. You mean they are Karaoke screens for AP to sing off of?

Seriously, I don't know why you call him a Karaoke singer. Help me with this.

Minus One, anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY_9x-GqCMg

Thank God Neal dropped the hammer on this shit.

You guys are a riot. Mainstream singers go on shows all the time without a band and sing to piped in music.
Does that make all of them Karaoke singers?

As a solo artist and using your own material, maybe. When you are singing to a minus one track without the other members of your band, letting them be represented by tape it's Karaoke. This isn't the 70s.

Obviously, it was offensive enough to be stopped by the band in order as Neal said, to preserve the sanctity of the music, even to the point of forbidding Arnel to sing any Journey songs while he toured solo also (which didn't seem to be the rule for Deen, Jon and Neal who all went out there and performed various Journey songs on their own little gigs during the last year).

[steveo777]

Original members vs. Karaoke singer.....

I thought those big screens were so we can see the band. You mean they are Karaoke screens for AP to sing off of?

Seriously, I don't know why you call him a Karaoke singer. Help me with this.

Minus One, anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY_9x-GqCMg

Thank God Neal dropped the hammer on this shit.

You guys are a riot. Mainstream singers go on shows all the time without a band and sing to piped in music.
Does that make all of them Karaoke singers?

As a solo artist and using your own material, maybe. When you are singing to a minus one track without the other members of your band, letting them be represented by tape it's Karaoke. This isn't the 70s.

Obviously, it was offensive enough to be stopped by the band in order as Neal said, to preserve the sanctity of the music, even to the point of forbidding Arnel to sing any Journey songs while he toured solo also.

Neal got it right. Arnel's management in the Philippines might have had something to do with this being performed like this.
I don't think AP makes these kind of decisions....he just does what his bosses say.

[Don]

Original members vs. Karaoke singer.....

I thought those big screens were so we can see the band. You mean they are Karaoke screens for AP to sing off of?

Seriously, I don't know why you call him a Karaoke singer. Help me with this.

Minus One, anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY_9x-GqCMg

Thank God Neal dropped the hammer on this shit.

You guys are a riot. Mainstream singers go on shows all the time without a band and sing to piped in music.
Does that make all of them Karaoke singers?

As a solo artist and using your own material, maybe. When you are singing to a minus one track without the other members of your band, letting them be represented by tape it's Karaoke. This isn't the 70s.

Obviously, it was offensive enough to be stopped by the band in order as Neal said, to preserve the sanctity of the music, even to the point of forbidding Arnel to sing any Journey songs while he toured solo also.

Neal got it right. Arnel's management in the Philippines might have had something to do with this being performed like this.
I don't think AP makes these kind of decisions....he just does what his bosses say.

Who ever writes the biggest check is the boss, and it seems that Arnel has now learned that.

[brywool]

Original members vs. Karaoke singer.....

I thought those big screens were so we can see the band. You mean they are Karaoke screens for AP to sing off of?

Seriously, I don't know why you call him a Karaoke singer. Help me with this.

Minus One, anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY_9x-GqCMg

Thank God Neal dropped the hammer on this shit.

You guys are a riot. Mainstream singers go on shows all the time without a band and sing to piped in music.
Does that make all of them Karaoke singers?

But are they singing their own material?

YES. Celine Dion does it on Opy all the time. McCartney did it as well, though what was piped in was him. Remember American Bandstand? NOBODY played on that show. EVER. It was all just standing there moving your lips. The argument that Pineda's a karaoke guys is as tired as all the other arguments against him. Arnel made his living singing covers. LOTS of people did this before they made it big. Beatles. Stones. JSS sings a lotta covers still. Big F'ing deal. There was a time when that was how you made it big, by being discovered in a club doing covers.
Steve Perry was doing covers before his original stuff.

[Archetype]

I can't wait until the 24th. I have few complaints about what I have heard from this album so far. It will sound awesome in my car

[Don]

Original members vs. Karaoke singer.....

I thought those big screens were so we can see the band. You mean they are Karaoke screens for AP to sing off of?

Seriously, I don't know why you call him a Karaoke singer. Help me with this.

Minus One, anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY_9x-GqCMg

Thank God Neal dropped the hammer on this shit.

You guys are a riot. Mainstream singers go on shows all the time without a band and sing to piped in music.
Does that make all of them Karaoke singers?

But are they singing their own material?

YES. Celine Dion does it on Opy all the time. McCartney did it as well, though what was piped in was him. Remember American Bandstand? NOBODY played on that show. EVER. It was all just standing there moving your lips. The argument that Pineda's a karaoke guys is as tired as all the other arguments against him. Arnel made his living singing covers. LOTS of people did this before they made it big. Beatles. Stones. JSS sings a lotta covers still. Big F'ing deal. There was a time when that was how you made it big, by being discovered in a club doing covers.
Steve Perry was doing covers before his original stuff.

We were discussing Pineda singing DSB to a minus one track without the band, while a member of Journey. Neal stopped that crap so it's a moot point now.

[steveo777]

Original members vs. Karaoke singer.....

I thought those big screens were so we can see the band. You mean they are Karaoke screens for AP to sing off of?

Seriously, I don't know why you call him a Karaoke singer. Help me with this.

Minus One, anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY_9x-GqCMg

Thank God Neal dropped the hammer on this shit.

You guys are a riot. Mainstream singers go on shows all the time without a band and sing to piped in music.
Does that make all of them Karaoke singers?

But are they singing their own material?

YES. Celine Dion does it on Opy all the time. McCartney did it as well, though what was piped in was him. Remember American Bandstand? NOBODY played on that show. EVER. It was all just standing there moving your lips. The argument that Pineda's a karaoke guys is as tired as all the other arguments against him. Arnel made his living singing covers. LOTS of people did this before they made it big. Beatles. Stones. JSS sings a lotta covers still. Big F'ing deal. There was a time when that was how you made it big, by being discovered in a club doing covers.
Steve Perry was doing covers before his original stuff.

Exactly, except you said what I was trying to say much better. Solid post. We got a new album coming and it is Arnel's. No re-records, just songs written for the current
front man of Journey...a band that lives on. I really hope that they will keep playing some of the good songs from this album live.

[G.I.Jim]

:shock: What the hells happened to Neal's face?? Good gawd man, put down the knife! Wow, I obviously haven't checked out much Journey footage recently! Argg wish some of these rockers would just age gracefully, sprouting a couple wrinkles just adds character......LOL heck you're from the same area, find out which water supply EM's drinking from.

Agreed...although Kip seems to look pretty good for his age too.

Great example. Kip (and Eric too for that matter) DO have a few wrinkles close up........but he's aged gracefully, he isn't trying to look like he's 25-30 anymore.

Sounds Really Good Too......Has become one of my favorites.

Witness
http://youtu.be/rWSVGcivuGs

AWESOME song AND album, and welcome back stranger! Haven't seen you on in a while. Hope all's well with you.

[RocknRoll]

Exactly, except you said what I was trying to say much better. Solid post. We got a new album coming and it is Arnel's. No re-records, just songs written for the current front man of Journey...a band that lives on. I really hope that they will keep playing some of the good songs from this album live.

...ummm!! I think the album is Journey's!! I know what you meant, but still???

[steveo777]

Exactly, except you said what I was trying to say much better. Solid post. We got a new album coming and it is Arnel's. No re-records, just songs written for the current front man of Journey...a band that lives on. I really hope that they will keep playing some of the good songs from this album live.

...ummm!! I think the album is Journey's!! I know what you meant, but still???

What I meant was a new Journey album with Arnel singing songs original to him, not performing legacy songs made famous by the voice. Some days
I don't communicate worth a shit.

[portland]

:shock: What the hells happened to Neal's face?? Good gawd man, put down the knife! Wow, I obviously haven't checked out much Journey footage recently! Argg wish some of these rockers would just age gracefully, sprouting a couple wrinkles just adds character......LOL heck you're from the same area, find out which water supply EM's drinking from.

Agreed...although Kip seems to look pretty good for his age too.

Great example. Kip (and Eric too for that matter) DO have a few wrinkles close up........but he's aged gracefully, he isn't trying to look like he's 25-30 anymore.

Sounds Really Good Too......Has become one of my favorites.

Witness
http://youtu.be/rWSVGcivuGs

AWESOME song AND album, and welcome back stranger! Haven't seen you on in a while. Hope all's well with you.

I have been around....just don't have much to say.

I have been listening to Karma a lot these days...really, really like it! Kip's solo stuff is really good as well.

[Hippie]

The more I hear of this album, the more I drool!!!!

Sounds amazing!

Another little piece of She's a Mystery! Holy shit!!!! CAN NOT WAIT to hear the whole thing!!!

[brywool]

Yeah, She's a Mystery sounds really cool and different for Journey. Am excited to hear the whole tune.