Journeymusic.com Makeover

by **S2M** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:01 am

My new name for Journey is Three Fifths..... :twisted:

Website · by **steveo777** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:02 am

S2M wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Don wrote:
brywool wrote:everybody wants the hard look these days. If you look soft, you look whimpy.
Seen Night Ranger's latest? YIKES.

If you have no problems about releasing a song like After All These Years, you shouldn't have any qualms about looking wimpy. Night Ranger's promotional budget can't be more than a quarter of what Journey has available to them so that comparison won't wash.

Letting your girl friend handle your web design to save money, it's obvious Perry ain't the only Jew in the band.

Oh, haven't you heard? Perry isn't in the band anymore.

No....but he's the only one laughing to the bank, while 3/5s are bastardizing the Journey brand....

They are entertaining us, you bastard!

by **Don** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:03 am

steveo777 wrote:
Don wrote:
brywool wrote:everybody wants the hard look these days. If you look soft, you look whimpy.
Seen Night Ranger's latest? YIKES.

If you have no problems about releasing a song like After All These Years, you shouldn't have any qualms about looking wimpy. Night Ranger's promotional budget can't be more than a quarter of what Journey has available to them so that comparison won't wash.

Letting your girl friend handle your web design to save money, it's obvious Perry ain't the only Jew in the band.

Oh, haven't you heard? Perry isn't in the band anymore.

You just had to go there, didn't you?

Perry will always be in the band. This ain't Van Hagar. When they can start signing licensing agreements for usage of their greatest hits without his approval, let me know.
In case you didn't notice, DSB is sitting higher on the European Charts than COH is. The shadowy presence of Band Member #6 isn't going anywhere, anytime soon.

by **RocknRoll** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:06 am

Don wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Don wrote:
brywool wrote:everybody wants the hard look these days. If you look soft, you look whimpy.
Seen Night Ranger's latest? YIKES.

If you have no problems about releasing a song like After All These Years, you shouldn't have any qualms about looking wimpy. Night Ranger's promotional budget can't be more than a quarter of what Journey has available to them so that comparison won't wash.

Letting your girl friend handle your web design to save money, it's obvious Perry ain't the only Jew in the band.

Oh, haven't you heard? Perry isn't in the band anymore.

Perry will always be in the band. This ain't Van Hagar. When they can start signing licensing agreements for usage of their greatest hits without his approval, let me know.
In case you didn't notice, DSB is sitting higher on the European Charts than COH is. The shadowy presence of Band Member #6 isn't going anywhere, anytime soon.

For Don!! Say Perry did a one-off tour and decided to make a DVD, would Perry have to get approval/pay Neal & Jon who own the Journey name for any Journey songs? Or just their approval as co-songwriters? Just one of those stupid nagging questions.

by **Don** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:12 am

RocknRoll wrote:
Don wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Don wrote:
brywool wrote:everybody wants the hard look these days. If you look soft, you look whimpy.
Seen Night Ranger's latest? YIKES.

If you have no problems about releasing a song like After All These Years, you shouldn't have any qualms about looking wimpy. Night Ranger's promotional budget can't be more than a quarter of what Journey has available to them so that comparison won't wash.

Letting your girl friend handle your web design to save money, it's obvious Perry ain't the only Jew in the band.

Oh, haven't you heard? Perry isn't in the band anymore.

Perry will always be in the band. This ain't Van Hagar. When they can start signing licensing agreements for usage of their greatest hits without his approval, let me know.
In case you didn't notice, DSB is sitting higher on the European Charts than COH is. The shadowy presence of Band Member #6 isn't going anywhere, anytime soon.

For Don!! Say Perry did a one-off tour and decided to make a DVD, would Perry have to get approval/pay Neal & Jon who own the Journey name for any Journey songs? Or just their approval as co-songwriters? Just one of those stupid nagging questions.

From what I know, for the tour, no. For using the songs in a DVD, yeah. For using the songs in a CD, no but his label would have to pay royalties accordingly.

Perry ain't going to do it though, and I don't blame him. The real money is in licensing because there is no pre-set fee set by the copyright board. You can charge what you want, only the royalties will have a set rate if the movie, show or what ever you licensed goes into syndication.

Guys have lived off of licensing their hits (or hit) for years. Look at Gerry Rafferty; The guy made 150k a year for ONE 30 year old song that I never heard in any movies or commercials. Now think of all the Perry/Cain penned tunes you have heard everywhere over the years.
Who's Crying Now was on A Disney DVD that sold 20 million copies world wide. And that's just one song. If the main songwriters of Journey never wanted to work again (which is apparently the case with Perry) their quality of life isn't going to suffer one bit.

Some other things to add would be Open Arms out there in various forms (Journey, Mariah Carey, Soundtracks, etc.) to the tune of about 50 million sales and the evergreen status of Journey's Greatest Hits on Billboard. Throw in Classic Journey being in the top ten rotations of annual playlist numbers for Adult Contemporary and Classic Rock radio and the quarterly royalties numbers have to be huge.

Note that these latter things are separate from the licensing money tree I mentioned before that.
Really, just amazing. I don't know how much Perry REALLY contributed to the songwriting of the group but by making sure he got included on pretty much every song, he has set himself (and his children at least) up for life.

by **Saint John** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:47 am

S2M wrote: 3/5s are bastardizing the Journey brand

I think the Revelation tour was better than anything Journey did from 1985-1998, Perry's last 13 years.

by **brywool** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:50 am

Saint John wrote:
S2M wrote: 3/5s are bastardizing the Journey brand

I think the Revelation tour was better than anything Journey did from 1985-1998, Perry's last 13 years.

Although I missed Perry's solo tour (dangit), it looked like they were pretty good shows, in spite of lowered song keys, some of them, drastically lower. The 86 tour was a good one except for Michael Baired and Jackson's pants.

The Revelation tour was awesome. Dan, did you know I was in the FRONT ROW for that show????

by **Saint John** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:56 am

brywool wrote:
Saint John wrote:
S2M wrote: 3/5s are bastardizing the Journey brand

I think the Revelation tour was better than anything Journey did from 1985-1998, Perry's last 13 years.

Although I missed Perry's solo tour (dangit), it looked like they were pretty good shows, in spite of lowered song keys, some of them, drastically lower. The 86 tour was a good one except for Michael Baired and Jackson's pants.

The Revelation tour was awesome. Dan, did you know I was in the FRONT ROW for that show????

lol ... Paula is a wonderful lady and it was soooo cool of her to do that for you, as well as me for quite a few shows! Bry, do you know the story behind that? She knows the members of Heart (specifically, Ben Smith) and would leave and go backstage with them during Journey's set, opening up those front row seats. She is #1 on their fan club list. That means that any shows she goes to, and she goes to a lot, she gets the very best seats they are allotted. And so did we.

by **Argus** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:33 pm

DrFU wrote:
Argus wrote:
DrFU wrote:In the Eclipse style and colors.

Looks better; still doesn't do much.

Much better on the eyes! OMG Deen looks like Peter Wolf At least I can finally read the text Band Blogs are gone I think.

Wish they'd order up a big ol' plate of crow and put you and Mark back in charge ... but I guess that ship has sailed ... sigh

That ship sank with the Island.. :wink:

Seriously, Bands do not need websites anymore. Social Media and the use of it are where the smart kids are headed. There's an App for that-)

by **JourneyHard** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:43 am

Wouldn't Journey before Steve Perry joined be 100% while Journey with Steve Perry for Raised on Radio would only be 3/5ths?

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:53 am

Ehwmatt wrote:Man Deen looked cool as shit on the 2001 Vegas DVD. Now he just looks like a homo

EXACTLY what a bud of mine said when we popped in the Manilla dvd. The makeover is a bit strong. He looked like a badass rock drummer before, now he looks like an ex-member of Poison, or some glam LA strip band

by **Don** » Fri May 13, 2011 7:35 am

They took away the Shout Box. Just nuke that site already.

by **Don** » Fri May 13, 2011 7:38 am

JourneyHard wrote:Wouldn't Journey before Steve Perry joined be 100% while Journey with Steve Perry for Raised on Radio would only be 3/5ths?

100% crap, yep.

by **VirgilTheart** » Fri May 13, 2011 9:23 am

Saint John wrote:
S2M wrote: 3/5s are bastardizing the Journey brand

I think the Revelation tour was better than anything Journey did from 1985-1998, Perry's last 13 years.

I saw the band on the Revelation tour, on the last of the three Honolulu, Hawaii concerts in 2009. Best fucking concert of my life. :twisted:

MR

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