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Postby Deb » Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:19 am

Greg wrote:
Don wrote:What is there to do with them?
They're not going up or down the ladder when it comes to touring. They do tour well when packaged with other bands. Not top tier venues but still at top 20 touring act.

At retail, they obviously don't give a shit anymore but the back catalog still sells itself regardless.

The band seems pretty content to be where they are right now.


This is a bold step, but if Journey truly wanted to shed their past and be a new band again, then instead of having them tour with the likes of Heart or Night Ranger, you'd want them to tour with more relevant bands such as 30 Seconds to Mars, Kings of Leon, or The Muse. And then you'd have their set list consisting of 70% new material with a few old songs (one of them, of course, would have to be Don't Stop Believing since it's popular amongst the new crowd.) The band would never do this, but I believe this is the only way they could ever truly get people to notice them as the Journey they are today and not so much their past accomplishments.


I agree. :lol: Then maybe they'll have stuff written about them like this in rock magazines too (after MB's performance at Download this weekend).......

"Only catching half the set was enough to persuade us that Mr Big fall into the category of ‘good band’ not ‘nostalgia act’. So much 80s hair metal is able to return on the heritage tip to play whatever couple of hits a band had before re-retiring back into day jobs. But bands like Tesla, Thunder and even Cinderella (who played last year) have proven a cut above the rest. We get all the songs we want and bassist Billy Sheehan and guitarist Paul Gilbert each get their chance to shine within them. We’re even treated to ‘Shy Boy’ which Billy played alongside David Lee Roth while in his band in the 80s (originally by Sheehan’s band Talas: thank you Jonathan Dyton). While Def Leppard failed to muster much excitement, the return of Mr Big to these shores bodes well for their future."
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Postby Don » Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:45 am

Greg wrote:
Don wrote:What is there to do with them?
They're not going up or down the ladder when it comes to touring. They do tour well when packaged with other bands. Not top tier venues but still at top 20 touring act.

At retail, they obviously don't give a shit anymore but the back catalog still sells itself regardless.

The band seems pretty content to be where they are right now.


This is a bold step, but if Journey truly wanted to shed their past and be a new band again, then instead of having them tour with the likes of Heart or Night Ranger, you'd want them to tour with more relevant bands such as 30 Seconds to Mars, Kings of Leon, or The Muse. And then you'd have their set list consisting of 70% new material with a few old songs (one of them, of course, would have to be Don't Stop Believing since it's popular amongst the new crowd.) The band would never do this, but I believe this is the only way they could ever truly get people to notice them as the Journey they are today and not so much their past accomplishments.


They're a second headliner behind Kings Of Leon at one of Euro Festivals this year. As for Muse, they're an act that sells out places like MSG.
Now Muse did open for U2. Of course, when you doing stadium shows with a legendary act, exceptions can be made.

Really, any modern act that would team up with Journey would have to be one comfortable with being an opener because Neal has made it quite clear that he no longer wants to open for anyone.
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Postby steveo777 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:56 am

Don wrote:
Greg wrote:
Don wrote:What is there to do with them?
They're not going up or down the ladder when it comes to touring. They do tour well when packaged with other bands. Not top tier venues but still at top 20 touring act.

At retail, they obviously don't give a shit anymore but the back catalog still sells itself regardless.

The band seems pretty content to be where they are right now.


This is a bold step, but if Journey truly wanted to shed their past and be a new band again, then instead of having them tour with the likes of Heart or Night Ranger, you'd want them to tour with more relevant bands such as 30 Seconds to Mars, Kings of Leon, or The Muse. And then you'd have their set list consisting of 70% new material with a few old songs (one of them, of course, would have to be Don't Stop Believing since it's popular amongst the new crowd.) The band would never do this, but I believe this is the only way they could ever truly get people to notice them as the Journey they are today and not so much their past accomplishments.


They're a second headliner behind Kings Of Leon at one of Euro Festivals this year. As for Muse, they're an act that sells out places like MSG.
Now Muse did open for U2. Of course, when you doing stadium shows with a legendary act, exceptions can be made.

Really, any modern act that would team up with Journey would have to be one comfortable with being an opener because Neal has made it quite clear that he no longer wants to open for anyone.


As it should be. Journey can sell out mid sized venues by themselves and I'd be happy to see them alone because that would mean more songs.
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Postby Don » Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:02 am

steveo777 wrote:
Don wrote:
Greg wrote:
Don wrote:What is there to do with them?
They're not going up or down the ladder when it comes to touring. They do tour well when packaged with other bands. Not top tier venues but still at top 20 touring act.

At retail, they obviously don't give a shit anymore but the back catalog still sells itself regardless.

The band seems pretty content to be where they are right now.


This is a bold step, but if Journey truly wanted to shed their past and be a new band again, then instead of having them tour with the likes of Heart or Night Ranger, you'd want them to tour with more relevant bands such as 30 Seconds to Mars, Kings of Leon, or The Muse. And then you'd have their set list consisting of 70% new material with a few old songs (one of them, of course, would have to be Don't Stop Believing since it's popular amongst the new crowd.) The band would never do this, but I believe this is the only way they could ever truly get people to notice them as the Journey they are today and not so much their past accomplishments.


They're a second headliner behind Kings Of Leon at one of Euro Festivals this year. As for Muse, they're an act that sells out places like MSG.
Now Muse did open for U2. Of course, when you doing stadium shows with a legendary act, exceptions can be made.

Really, any modern act that would team up with Journey would have to be one comfortable with being an opener because Neal has made it quite clear that he no longer wants to open for anyone.


As it should be. Journey can sell out mid sized venues by themselves and I'd be happy to see them alone because that would mean more songs.


Azoff will keep packaging Journey with other bands simply because he has a vested interest in seeing that venues get filled.
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Postby Greg » Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:04 am

Don wrote:
Greg wrote:
Don wrote:What is there to do with them?
They're not going up or down the ladder when it comes to touring. They do tour well when packaged with other bands. Not top tier venues but still at top 20 touring act.

At retail, they obviously don't give a shit anymore but the back catalog still sells itself regardless.

The band seems pretty content to be where they are right now.


This is a bold step, but if Journey truly wanted to shed their past and be a new band again, then instead of having them tour with the likes of Heart or Night Ranger, you'd want them to tour with more relevant bands such as 30 Seconds to Mars, Kings of Leon, or The Muse. And then you'd have their set list consisting of 70% new material with a few old songs (one of them, of course, would have to be Don't Stop Believing since it's popular amongst the new crowd.) The band would never do this, but I believe this is the only way they could ever truly get people to notice them as the Journey they are today and not so much their past accomplishments.


They're a second headliner behind Kings Of Leon at one of Euro Festivals this year. As for Muse, they're an act that sells out places like MSG.
Now Muse did open for U2. Of course, when you doing stadium shows with a legendary act, exceptions can be made.

Really, any modern act that would team up with Journey would have to be one comfortable with being an opener because Neal has made it quite clear that he no longer wants to open for anyone.


Well if that's the case then eventually he's going to be left playing for state fairs and family reunions, because getting the exposure you need to make a band relevant sometimes means taking a backseat to other acts that are hotter.
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