Centaure wrote:NoMoreTails wrote:SF-Dano wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:Quite a few progressive change-ups on this album. Easily Journey’s most experimental album since the pre-Perry years. If anything, I wish they went further. Just like another thread inexplicably complaining about a lack of BG vocals, some of these nitpicking gripes are just plain wacko.
I agree, for my tastes, I wish they went further. Also, I love the ending of EOTM, fits the song perfectly. In fact, the three songs the poster originaly mentioned (Edge of the moment -Chain Of Love-Resonate) are probably my three favorite tracks on the record.
I agree with you both. I don't get why so many supposedly hardcore fans would prefer that they dumb things down..for lack of a better phrase.
Yes that is what I meant : I wish they went further. Don't get me wrong, I love long songs, Dream Theater is one my favorite band, so is Yes, I am a prog fan.
The problem is the songs are hardly prog songs. If that is what they tried here, I think they failed. Long songs don't automatically mean prog-rock! Eclipse is nothing near as prog as the 3 first Journey album. Sometimes it is almost that album, but it lacks meat to be really prog. So, either you write long songs with complex time changes, interesting bridges, great intro/outro, or you write a shorter song with great energy, great memorable chorus/hook, like Journey is known for. I think they tried for both at the same time.
Anyway, without Smith/Dunbar and Rolie in the band, I don't think that this line-up could pull off a great prog-rock album.
Where did any of the band members say this is supposed to be a prog album? Did I miss that statement somewhere? I know they said a bit of a concept album...not even stating it would be fully that...kind of left that said without definition because the concept was to paint parts of a picture, put it all together and let the viewer look to see what they will without being told what to see, imo. ...with the basis of the concept being a general theme, which is tantra and tantric philosophy....which they certainly did achieve if one has even the most fundamentally basic understanding of Buddhism and Tantra. As far as following a formula and writing the songs either one way or another, I also disagree with...thats taking away the artists freedom of creativity. Like painting a paint by number picture instead of making the painting their own. Why should artists be restricted to only specific formulas? Too restrictive and predictable, imo,..I like to see them take risks and do it their way.
