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2012 touring possibilities, probably Europe only

Postby kgdjpubs » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:29 am

appears they might be heading back towards Europe next year.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/journey- ... interview/

Anything else fans can look forward to?

I’m actually going to try to get a hold of Jimmy Barnes, my old friend, because I produced two albums in Australia for him. Plus, Neal, of course, was a part of the ‘Freight Train Heart’ album, he played all of the guitar on that album, actually. And interestingly enough, Mike Stone, the guy who produced Journey’s two biggest albums, finished that album for us.

We were thinking of trying to get him to tour with us next year. That’d be good, because I’m sure we’d get up on stage together and I’d just play ‘Working Class Man’ with him, which wouldn’t be bad.



I figure it would be Europe only, as Barnes is unknown in the US, but Journey better bring their rock set to compete with him. Not sure how much overlap there would be in the fanbases between Journey's pop rock and smooth tenor voice compared to Barnes' raw hard rock and that wailing voice, but Barnes definitely has the catalog and encore songs to let Neal Schon get his rock fix satisfied if he wanted to.

One would think if this happened that there would be some songwriting collaboration also, and it would be nice to get a proper followup to Jimmy Barnes' Freight Train Heart album--which had both Cain and Schon.
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Postby Don » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:43 am

They are supposed to play Asia next year. With Barnes in Tow, I would expect them to do as in 2009, playing some of the smaller venues and out of the way places instead of the normal circuit. I would also expect detuned shows again, if it doesn't start happening this year. With the sound issues, Arnel is probably exerting a lot more energy than necessary. No need to fry him because of technical problems.
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Postby kgdjpubs » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:41 am

Don wrote:They are supposed to play Asia next year. With Barnes in Tow, I would expect them to do as in 2009, playing some of the smaller venues and out of the way places instead of the normal circuit. I would also expect detuned shows again, if it doesn't start happening this year. With the sound issues, Arnel is probably exerting a lot more energy than necessary. No need to fry him because of technical problems.


It could be Asia also, but I'm not sure bringing Jimmy Barnes around there is going to do much for them unless they are planning to play Australia/New Zealand, and Journey would be the opening act on those shows. That, I just don't see happening, and Jimmy Barnes certainly doesn't need Journey to help draw people in those areas.

Jimmy Barnes has been known to tour Europe every now and then, and is doing a tour there next month playing relatively small venues. He has enough of a name to actually draw people to the shows in Europe, and might allow Journey to play slightly larger venues. Combine, and both could play larger venues than they would by themselves. Still not sure how much fan overlap there would be. I doubt many Barnes fans would go crazy over Journey and visa versa, but Journey better bring the A game touring, or Jimmy Barnes will wipe the floor with them at any venue where he has some section of the audience who came to see him.
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Postby Andrew » Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:08 am

They are looking at Australia for Barnes.
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Postby Glenn » Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:16 am

Andrew wrote:They are looking at Australia for Barnes.


You a Barnes fan? Ideal gig?
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Postby RocknRoll » Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:21 am

I'm waiting to see what's happening here!! As of right now Firefest is cancelled and I'm going to be saving my concert money for Australia. been there once but Journey in OZ!! YEAH!! I would love to see Jimmy Barnes! Gotta do it. Maybe a trip to Tazmania might be in order. Seriously, watch the air fares, first time I went over there it was $999 and included 2 flights within Australia, you can find great deals if you can handle the long flight!!
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Postby kgdjpubs » Sun Jun 19, 2011 12:59 pm

RocknRoll wrote:I'm waiting to see what's happening here!! As of right now Firefest is cancelled and I'm going to be saving my concert money for Australia. been there once but Journey in OZ!! YEAH!! I would love to see Jimmy Barnes! Gotta do it. Maybe a trip to Tazmania might be in order. Seriously, watch the air fares, first time I went over there it was $999 and included 2 flights within Australia, you can find great deals if you can handle the long flight!!



Depending on where you are, it might not be such a long flight. Quite a few headlining dates in the UK and Netherlands in the first week or two of July.
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Postby Andrew » Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:34 pm

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Andrew wrote:They are looking at Australia for Barnes.


You a Barnes fan? Ideal gig?


Used to live him. Adore several albums, but these days he'd turn up for the opening if an envelope if asked. I told J mgmt this.
Shannon Noll would be a much better support choice - younger, more popular and he's desperate to hook into USA market.

I told Journey mgmt that Noll should work with Cain, get a cover of a Journey song done and release if here. Huge PR for a Journey Oz tour and would raise his profile for a possible US break.

He was the second place getter here on Australian Idol's first season. Has done major business since.
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Postby Andrew » Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:35 pm

RocknRoll wrote:I'm waiting to see what's happening here!! As of right now Firefest is cancelled and I'm going to be saving my concert money for Australia. been there once but Journey in OZ!! YEAH!! I would love to see Jimmy Barnes! Gotta do it. Maybe a trip to Tazmania might be in order. Seriously, watch the air fares, first time I went over there it was $999 and included 2 flights within Australia, you can find great deals if you can handle the long flight!!


C'mon down :)
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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Jun 19, 2011 7:22 pm

Andrew wrote:
RocknRoll wrote:I'm waiting to see what's happening here!! As of right now Firefest is cancelled and I'm going to be saving my concert money for Australia. been there once but Journey in OZ!! YEAH!! I would love to see Jimmy Barnes! Gotta do it. Maybe a trip to Tazmania might be in order. Seriously, watch the air fares, first time I went over there it was $999 and included 2 flights within Australia, you can find great deals if you can handle the long flight!!


C'mon down :)


As I told you via PM Andrew, Bryan Adams visits Sidney, Melbourne, New Castle and Brisbane in September.

http://bryanadams.com/index.php?nav_nam ... ,travelmap
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Postby Tito » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:52 am

Andrew wrote:He was the second place getter here on Australian Idol's first season.


Is that like being the tallest midget or in this case second tallest?
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Postby Andrew » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:09 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
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RocknRoll wrote:I'm waiting to see what's happening here!! As of right now Firefest is cancelled and I'm going to be saving my concert money for Australia. been there once but Journey in OZ!! YEAH!! I would love to see Jimmy Barnes! Gotta do it. Maybe a trip to Tazmania might be in order. Seriously, watch the air fares, first time I went over there it was $999 and included 2 flights within Australia, you can find great deals if you can handle the long flight!!


C'mon down :)


As I told you via PM Andrew, Bryan Adams visits Sidney, Melbourne, New Castle and Brisbane in September.

http://bryanadams.com/index.php?nav_nam ... ,travelmap


But not to my neck of the woods...shame. Class act when he drops the syrup.
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Postby Don » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:16 pm

Australia seems to have been the one place immune to DSB fever. Did Eclipse even get released there?
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Postby kgdjpubs » Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:09 am

Don wrote:Australia seems to have been the one place immune to DSB fever. Did Eclipse even get released there?


that doesn't seem to surprise me. Didn't Andrew say that Perry had a bigger hit with Oh Sherrie than anything Journey did? Seems to be a pretty strong self-contained music scene there, and Journey never touring there didn't help. It may simply be that nobody ever heard the song, much like plenty of their classics for the rest of the world.
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Postby Andrew » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:17 am

Don wrote:Australia seems to have been the one place immune to DSB fever. Did Eclipse even get released there?


Nope. Nor did Revelation or any album since Trial By Fire.
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Postby Andrew » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:17 am

kgdjpubs wrote:
Don wrote:Australia seems to have been the one place immune to DSB fever. Did Eclipse even get released there?


that doesn't seem to surprise me. Didn't Andrew say that Perry had a bigger hit with Oh Sherrie than anything Journey did? Seems to be a pretty strong self-contained music scene there, and Journey never touring there didn't help. It may simply be that nobody ever heard the song, much like plenty of their classics for the rest of the world.


True. Oh Sherrie was a monster song here and still gets played on the radio. Don't hear any Journey stuff, not even DSB.
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Postby conversationpc » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:31 pm

Andrew wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:
Don wrote:Australia seems to have been the one place immune to DSB fever. Did Eclipse even get released there?


that doesn't seem to surprise me. Didn't Andrew say that Perry had a bigger hit with Oh Sherrie than anything Journey did? Seems to be a pretty strong self-contained music scene there, and Journey never touring there didn't help. It may simply be that nobody ever heard the song, much like plenty of their classics for the rest of the world.


True. Oh Sherrie was a monster song here and still gets played on the radio. Don't hear any Journey stuff, not even DSB.


That's almost unbelievable...You'd think, at the very least, that since "Oh Sherrie" was so big there that they'd have gotten into Journey also.
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Postby kgdjpubs » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:48 pm

conversationpc wrote:
Andrew wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:
Don wrote:Australia seems to have been the one place immune to DSB fever. Did Eclipse even get released there?


that doesn't seem to surprise me. Didn't Andrew say that Perry had a bigger hit with Oh Sherrie than anything Journey did? Seems to be a pretty strong self-contained music scene there, and Journey never touring there didn't help. It may simply be that nobody ever heard the song, much like plenty of their classics for the rest of the world.


True. Oh Sherrie was a monster song here and still gets played on the radio. Don't hear any Journey stuff, not even DSB.


That's almost unbelievable...You'd think, at the very least, that since "Oh Sherrie" was so big there that they'd have gotten into Journey also.



the problem is that Journey was for all practical purposes kaput by the time Oh Sherrie came out, save for the dying gasp of ROR. Combine that with the very tightly contained music scene (aka most of the stadium-filling classic Aussie bands are unheard of anywhere else in the world), and it's easily understandable. Journey simply missed the boat, so to speak.
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Postby Andrew » Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:32 pm

conversationpc wrote:
Andrew wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:
Don wrote:Australia seems to have been the one place immune to DSB fever. Did Eclipse even get released there?


that doesn't seem to surprise me. Didn't Andrew say that Perry had a bigger hit with Oh Sherrie than anything Journey did? Seems to be a pretty strong self-contained music scene there, and Journey never touring there didn't help. It may simply be that nobody ever heard the song, much like plenty of their classics for the rest of the world.


True. Oh Sherrie was a monster song here and still gets played on the radio. Don't hear any Journey stuff, not even DSB.


That's almost unbelievable...You'd think, at the very least, that since "Oh Sherrie" was so big there that they'd have gotten into Journey also.


Big cult following... No big hits though. Small hits.... Album sales, yes...but no radio.

I actually got into Journey because of the Perry tune. I wanted to know what else that fabulous voice had done!
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Postby Brett » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:03 am

Very similar story in NZ - 'Oh Sherrie' was massive, but aside from LTS scraping the top 40 that was it - on the album charts Journey lasted one whole week with 'Escape' at #49. Although this was all before my time. Did hear 'When You Love a Woman' when it came out, and 'Open Arms' and 'Faithfully' every now and again on easy listening stations. Rock radio never touched them, as far as I can tell.

Still, as my two top bands ever (Magnum and Marillion) never bothered the NZ charts at all I guess Journey were massive by comparison...and it sure makes Toto's 6 top 30 hits look spectacular!
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Postby kgdjpubs » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:52 am

Brett wrote:Still, as my two top bands ever (Magnum and Marillion) never bothered the NZ charts at all



just curious, how does someone in NZ ever find out that Magnum existed at all? They didn't have any better success in the US either.
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Postby Brett » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:05 pm

kgdjpubs wrote:
Brett wrote:Still, as my two top bands ever (Magnum and Marillion) never bothered the NZ charts at all



just curious, how does someone in NZ ever find out that Magnum existed at all? They didn't have any better success in the US either.


Easy...melodicrock.com! We're only talking a few years really, after praise on the boards for Princess Alice I took a punt and loved it instantly, ditto everything else of theirs (with only a couple of exceptions....Rockin' Chair, for instance!)
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Postby youkeepmewaiting » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:42 pm

Brett wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:
Brett wrote:Still, as my two top bands ever (Magnum and Marillion) never bothered the NZ charts at all



just curious, how does someone in NZ ever find out that Magnum existed at all? They didn't have any better success in the US either.


Easy...melodicrock.com! We're only talking a few years really, after praise on the boards for Princess Alice I took a punt and loved it instantly, ditto everything else of theirs (with only a couple of exceptions....Rockin' Chair, for instance!)


Magnum have not brought out a great album for years. My Dads band supported them in the early 90s for a tour or two
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Postby kgdjpubs » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:16 am

Brett wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:
Brett wrote:Still, as my two top bands ever (Magnum and Marillion) never bothered the NZ charts at all



just curious, how does someone in NZ ever find out that Magnum existed at all? They didn't have any better success in the US either.


Easy...melodicrock.com! We're only talking a few years really, after praise on the boards for Princess Alice I took a punt and loved it instantly, ditto everything else of theirs (with only a couple of exceptions....Rockin' Chair, for instance!)


same here, or more specifically the AOR Hard Rock Hot Spot. Read Andrew's praise for Bob Catley's The Tower when it came out, was impressed and started checking out the back catalog.
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Postby kgdjpubs » Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:23 am

youkeepmewaiting wrote:
Brett wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:
Brett wrote:Still, as my two top bands ever (Magnum and Marillion) never bothered the NZ charts at all



just curious, how does someone in NZ ever find out that Magnum existed at all? They didn't have any better success in the US either.


Easy...melodicrock.com! We're only talking a few years really, after praise on the boards for Princess Alice I took a punt and loved it instantly, ditto everything else of theirs (with only a couple of exceptions....Rockin' Chair, for instance!)


Magnum have not brought out a great album for years. My Dads band supported them in the early 90s for a tour or two



I'd put the new one, The Visitation, up in the great albums discussion, especially if you put Eyes Like Fire back in the album. Not on the level of Storyteller's Night, Vigilante and Wings of Heaven, but few albums are. That's a string of 3 nearly perfect albums, and all different styles as usual for the course with this band!
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Postby Gideon » Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:50 am

Andrew wrote:I wanted to know what else that fabulous voice had done!


I'm sure Dan will be happy to educate you. :lol:
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Postby Andrew » Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:55 pm

kgdjpubs wrote:
Brett wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:
Brett wrote:Still, as my two top bands ever (Magnum and Marillion) never bothered the NZ charts at all



just curious, how does someone in NZ ever find out that Magnum existed at all? They didn't have any better success in the US either.


Easy...melodicrock.com! We're only talking a few years really, after praise on the boards for Princess Alice I took a punt and loved it instantly, ditto everything else of theirs (with only a couple of exceptions....Rockin' Chair, for instance!)


same here, or more specifically the AOR Hard Rock Hot Spot. Read Andrew's praise for Bob Catley's The Tower when it came out, was impressed and started checking out the back catalog.


Cool :)
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