Tantra v Butterfly

by **youkeepmewaiting** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:08 am

On average I've listened to Tantra twice a day since I bought the album when it first came out. I love and it hasn't faded.

by **youkeepmewaiting** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:08 am

Whether you like the song or not, you can't say that it is the WORST song ever by Journey because it is a very well written song... you just don't like it.

by **Gideon** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:10 am

Appreciating Tantra more every day.

by AR » Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:53 am

Alright, any guy debating in a thread called 'Tantra vs. Butterfly" just turn in your mancard right now. :wink:

by **Christopher** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:31 am

conversationpc wrote:Honestly, I think the main reason most Journey fans claim to hate "Butterfly" is simply because of its title because, honestly and musically-speaking, "Butterfly" is not that bad a tune.

I think you're right....cause I DO really think Butterfly is an incredibly soulful and beautiful....deep song....and the only thing that makes me cringe a little is the word itself...."Butterfly". In just ONE word, he made it really hard for a guy to admit he likes that song. I know...it's silly....but....it's true. For instance....instead of singing "She flieeeeees.....sweet....BUTTERfllyyyyy"....it could have been "She fliiieeessss....away....INNNto the skyyyyyy".....and then the song would have the same meaning but everyone would picture a bird that was being held down....which still works.

I'll stand up and say I think it's a wonderful song, though.

by **Christopher** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:41 am

youkeepmewaiting wrote:Whether you like the song or not, you can't say that it is the WORST song ever by Journey because it is a very well written song... you just don't like it.

Heh....of course not. Back Talk and Castles Burning are tied for that honor.

by **scarab** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:37 am

backtalk and castles burning rock, terrible lyrics, yes,

butterfly is just pure mary poppins, and Tantra, the most "non Journey" song they have done.

by **Christopher** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:43 am

scarab wrote:backtalk and castles burning rock, terrible lyrics, yes,

butterfly is just pure mary poppins, and Tantra, the most "non Journey" song they have done.

They rock, yes....but not in a good way IMO...seems they're just aggressive for the sake of being aggressive...and they grate on me horribly.

I would rather describe Butterfly as very....ummm...atmospheric and thought provoking....it could put you in a trance, if it didn't pull you out every minute or so with the word "BUTTerfllyyyy" which is sang in a bit of a jarring fashion, and is a bit too cheesy to get away with. Like I mentioned above, a small change in lyrics would have made it a perfect song IMO.

by **Escape Artist** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:09 am

I dig Tantra. Butterfly?? not so much...Worst Journey song(s) ever, all of the non-lead singer sung songs on Generations excluding Deen's 2 on lead vocals and Back talk IMO.

by **Rick** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:00 am

AR wrote:Alright, any guy debating in a thread called 'Tantra vs. Butterfly" just turn in your mancard right now.

by **youkeepmewaiting** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:01 am

I like Backtalk... don't love CB but don't hate it... nearly always skip it though

by **hoagiepete** » Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:14 am

youkeepmewaiting wrote:I like Backtalk... don't love CB but don't hate it... nearly always skip it though

Backtalk grated on me terribly since the first time I heard it. Castles Burning was never a favorite, but listenable.

by **Arkansas** » Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:17 am

AR wrote:Alright, any guy debating in a thread called 'Tantra vs. Butterfly" just turn in your mancard right now.

Yep, already had this "what am I doing?" epiphany. Immediately got up from the desk & went out to the shop. Slugged in a Chuck Norris DVD, cracked a Budweiser, and reorg'd my work bench. They grew back in a few hours.

later~

MR

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